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Defense of the Translations of the Scriptures into the English Tongue

William Fulke (1538-1589) · 252,507 words · 1122 min

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, but of him that is il disposed, and distempered in body. Yet the etymology is all one with that word which these men will have to signify him that hath no strength. And if they will needs urge the etymology, we tell them, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , signify, robur, that is, great strength, such as is in the strongest and stoutest champions. and so the etymology may take place, to signify a man of no great strength, not, of no strength. But M. Whitaker putteth us in good hope, they will not stand upon etymologies.

FULK. 13. This cavil is fully answered, cap. 1. sect. 26. therefore I wili not spend many words here about it. The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , we know signifieth weak, that is of small strength, and sometimes so weak, that there is no strength. As Gal. 4. where Saint Paul, calleth the ceremonies of Moses law, now expired, the weak and beggarly elements, that is void of all strength and riches. Likewise the Apostle to the Hebrews, cap. 7. saith, the commundement of the Aaronicall priesthood is abolished, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , because it was weak and unprofitable without Christ, as unprofitable is void of profit, so is weak void of strength. S. Paul, 1. Cor. 15. saith, our dead body is sowed in weakness: Is there any strength of a dead body? Moreover Rom. 8. that which was impossible by the law, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , by means it was weak, is not that void of strength to save us, which hath no possibility to do anything? These instances may serve to prove, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 may signify that which is so weak, that it hath no strength. Upon the etymology alone we stand not, But where you say, that man was wounded in free will, by the sin of Adam, not slain altogether, (grounding your assertion upon a fond & false allegory of him that fell among thieves, which is no parable of a man in this case, but of man in necessity to be helped by right of neighbourhood) I pray you, howe came man to be dead altogether in sins? Eph. 2. Col. 2. & in many other places of the Scripture. Beside, is there any freedom of will to godliness, remaining in them that are altogether dead in sin? But we are not now to handle controversies, but translations, as you do well admonish us.

MART. 14. When they have bereaved and spoiled a man of his free will, and left him without all strength, they go so far in this point, that* they say, the regenerate them selves have not free will and ability, no not by and with the grace of God, to keep the commandments. To this purpose they translate, (1. Io. 5. 3.) thus: His commaūdements are not grievous, rather than thus, His commaūdements are not heavy, for in saying, they are not heavy, it would follow, they might be kept and observed: but in saying, they are not grievous, that may be true, were they never so heavy or impossible, through patience. As when a man cannot do as he would, yet it grieveth him not, being patient & wise, because he is content to do as he can, & is able. Therefore do they choose to translate, that the commandments are not grievous, where the Apostle saith rather, they are not heavy. much more agreeably to our Saviors words, My burden is light! & to the words of God by Moses, Deut. 30. This commandment which I command thee this day, is not above thee (that is, beyond thy reach) but the word is very near thee, in thy mouth, & in thy heart, that thou mayst do it: and to the common signification of the Greekeword, which is, heavy. Beza would say somewhat in his commentary, howe the commandments are heavy or light, but his conclusion is against free will, and that there can be no perfection in this life, in cying against them that would prove it out of this place: which is as much to say (but he is ashamed to speak plainly) that we cannot keep the commandments: which the holy Doctors have long since condemned and abhorred, as most absurd, that God should command that, under pain of damnation, which is impossible to be done.

FULK. 14. Seeing our English word grievous, cometh of the Latin word grave, which is not only weighty, but also troublesome, It better answereth both the Greek and the Latin, than heavy, which is properly that which is of great weight, and the same word being both in Greek and Latin, 2. Cor. 10. you yourselves translate sore: his epistles are sore and vehement: but in effect there is no great difference. We acknowledge that his commandments are not heavy to him that is borne of God, which overcometh the world by faith, otherwise the yoke of the law, as the Apostle confesseth, is such a burthē, as neither we, nor our fathers were able to bear, but believe to be saved by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, who having taken away the curse of the law, and satisfied for our transgressions of the law, hath also given us grace to love the law, and commandments of God, and in some weak measure to observe them. So that the curse being taken away, our transgressions answered in Christ, and our harts framed by his grace, to love his commandments, and some strength given us to keep them, they are not heavy, they are not burdenous, or grievous. That which God speaketh, Deut. 30. is of the knowledge of the law, which was plainly revealed, and not of the strength that men have to keep it, and therefore is by the Apostle referred unto faith, for the observation thereof, Rom. 10. for by faith in Christ, which hath fulfilled the law for us, we are accounted to have fulfilled it in him. Beza speaketh plainly enough, if you had grace to understand him, and therefore is nothing ashamed to say, that we cannot keep the commandments of God, not only without the grace of God, but neither having the grace of God in such measure, as God giveth it to no man but that he sinneth. Otherwise, what grace God is able to give, we doubt not, but what he doth, and will give to any man in this life we speak. That God should command under pain of damnation, that which is impossible to be done, is no absurdity: seeing for them whom God will have to be saved, he provided another way of their salvation, than by keeping the law, namely the redemption of Christ. As for the reprobate void of God's grace, say you (if you dare) that they are able to keep the law without grace, or without grace have so much as any will to desire to have grace.

MART. 15. Thus having taken away free will to do good, and possibility to keep the commandments, and all merit or valure and efficacy of good works, their next conclusion is, that we have no true justice or righteousness in us, but an imputative justice, that is, Christ's justice imputed to us, be we never so foul and filthy in our souls, so that we believe only, and by faith apprehend Christ's justice. For this purpose they corrupt the Scriptures in their English Bibles, thus.

FULK. 15. The justice whereby we are accounted just in the sight of God, is not inherent in us, but in Christ, which is the Lord our righteousness. Ierem. 23. Not withstanding it is the only true justice, and we are truly just by it. And yet we are not void of the spirit of sanctification, which is a fruit, and consequent of justification, by which we have grace to withstand sin, and to work righteousness, not whereby we should be made righteous before God, but whereby we are declared to be righteous in parte, until the body of sin being abolished, we shall be wholly renewed according to the image of God.

CHAP. XI.

Heretical translation for IMPVTATIVE IVSTICE, against true inherent justice.

Martin.

ONE place might suffice, in steed of many, where Beza doth protest, that his adding or alteration of the text, is, specially against the execrable error of inherent justice, which (he saith) is to be avoided as nothing more. His false translation, thu our English Bezites and Calvinists follow in their Bibles. Likewise then as by the offense of one▪ the fault came on all men to condemnation: so by the justifying of one, the benefit abounded, toward all men to the justification of life. Where there are added to the text of the Apostle, six words: and the same so willfully and voluntarily, that by the three first, they make the Apostle say, sin came on all men by Adam, and they were made sinners in deed: by the three later, they make him say, not that justice or righteousness came likewise on all men by Christ, to make them just in deed, but that the benefit of Christ's justice abounded towards them, as being imputed forsooth unto them. Whereas, if they would needs add to the text (which yet is intolerable, so much, and in so doubtful a case) they should at the least have made the case equal, as the Apostle him self teacheth them to do, in the very next sentence, saying thus, For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many also be made righteous. So they translate, rather than, be made just. For they are the lothest men in the world to say that we are made just, for fear of justice inherent in us, though the Scripture be never so plain. As here we see the Apostle maketh the case like, that we are made just by Christ, as we were made sinners by Adam.

Fulke.

THis one place is delivered from your vain cavillation, Cap. 1. Sect. 23. when the sentence is ecclipticall or defective, they that will translate to have it understood, must needs supply the words that are wanting. And where shall they find what words are lacking, but in the same place, and in the treaty of the same matter? It appeareth you had rather the text had no sense, than that it might seem to make against your blasphemy of justice inherent. As for that fond quarrel of yours, that they be not just in deed, to whom the justice of Christ (which you like an helhound do scorn at) is imputed, deserveth no answer. For who is such a block, to say or think, that those whom God doth justify, are not made just in deed? Was not Abraham just in deed, when God imputed his faith unto justice? Is not he made riche in deed, which is made rich by another man's gift? Christ is given unto us of God to be justice, wisdom, sanctification, & in him we are just, wise, and holy, not in our own righteousness, wisdom, or holiness. As for adding to the text, God knoweth how we abhor it, but adding of words which do explicate the sense of the holyghost, is no additiō forbid̄, for then all preaching were accursed, which is, or ought to be nothing else, but an explaining & settīg forth of the word of God, in more words, the matter whereof (though in fewerwords) is contained in the scripture. And if we speak of adding of words in translation, have I not shown before, that you have added many? some in deed upon necessary cause, & some without necessity. What needed you to say for Poeniterent, they had done penance, Luc. 10. for In omnibus bonis, in all his goods, Gen. 6. for separamini, separate yourselves, 2 Cor. 6. &c. To say we are justified, and to say we are made just, is all one: and therefore I marvel why you think us loath to say the one, rather than the other. Is any man so senseless to think we can say, a man is made righteous, and dare not say he is made just. I tell you plainly, we defy the heresy of righteousness inherent, as much as of justice inherent. We are just, we are righteous in the sight of God, not by the justice or righteousness of our works: but by the justice or righteousness of Christ imputed to us through faith. And we are made just by Christ, as we were made sinners by Adam▪ in some respect, but not in every respect, for the Apostle maketh a broad difference between the transgression and the benefit Rom. 5. v. 15. and other differences there be, which none, but a Pelagian, will deny. Nay Pelagius will not say, that we are just by Christ according to propagation: but according to faith.

MART. 2. And it is a world to see, how Beza shifteth from one signification of the word justified, or, made just, to another. Sometime to be justified, is to be pronounced qui •• e from all sin, or declared just before God's indgement seat: and so e rāslateth it in the text Act. 13. v. 39. and as though his guilty conscience were afraid of a blow, he saith he fleeth not the term of justifying or justification, because he useth it in other places. He doth so in deed, but thē his commentary supplieth the urne: as Ro. 2. v 13. Not y t hearers of y e law are RIGHTEOVS before God (so they delight to translate, rather than, IVST before God) but the doers of the Law shall be IVSTIFIED, that is (saith Beza) shall be pronounced just. The Apostle must needs say by the coherence and consequence of his words, no the hearers are just, but the do rs shall be just or justified. Beza will in no case have it so, but either in text or comētarie make the Apostle say as himself imagineth. Yet in an other place he protesteth very solemnly, that to be justified, is not to be pronounced or accounted just, but rather to be just in deed: and that, he proveth out of S. Paul. Ro. 5. v. 19. who maketh it all one, to be justified, and, to be made just. And again by this reason, that it should be manifestly repugnant to God's justice, to account him for just, that is not just, and therefore that man in deed is made just. Thus Beza. Woulde you not think, he were come to be of our opinion? but he reuolteth again, and interpreateth all these goodly words in his old sense, saying, Not that any quality is inwardly given unto us, of which we are named just: but because the justice of Christ is imputed to us by faith freely. By faith then at the least we are truly justified. Not so neither, but faith (saith he) is an instrument wherewith we apprehend Christ our justice. So that we have no more justice in us, than we have glory: for glory also we apprehend by faith.

FULK. 2. Al learned mē I hope do see, that you have no regard, how vainly you cavil, so you may seem to the ignorant to say something against thē that be godly and learned. Act. 13. v. 39. Beza translateth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , absolui, that is (saith he) to be declared just, or absolved. and giveth this reason, why he useth not the word iustifica i in that place which he useth elsewhere.

Ne quis illud ab omnibus, perinde acciperet ac si casus esset modi, aut instrumenti, per quod iusti icemur, id est, iustifiamus, ac pronunciemur, aut pro iustis habeamur, hoc quidem loco malui absolvēdi verbum vsurpare. vt magis perspicua esset oratio: Least any man should take this word of the text ab omnibus, as though it were the case of the mean, or instrument, by which we are justified, that is, made and pronounced just, or accounted for just. In this place I chose rather to use the word of absolving, that the sentence might be more clear. The Latin ab omnibus, may signify by all things▪ or from all things.
Therefore, lease any man should mistake the Apostle, as though he said we are justified by all those things, where he meaneth we are justified from all things, Beza in this place useth the word of absolving or acquitting, in the same sense that he doth justifying in other places, where he speaketh of the same matter: and saith as plainly as a man can speak, that to be justified, and to be made just, or pronounced, or accounted just before God is all one. Yet our Momus findeth fault with him, for expounding, to be justified, Rom. 2. v. 13. to be pronounced just, as though God will pronounce any man just, which is not just indeed. But Beza (he saith) elsewhere, protesteth that to be justified, is not to be pronounced or accounted just, but rather to be just indeed. If Martin had not beelyed Beza, we should have had Beza's words set down, both in Latin and English. But in truth Beza hath no such words: yet in sense he hath thus much, that to be justified before God, is to be just indeed, and not to be only pronounced or accounted just, when he is not so in deed. But that we are made truly just indeed, by the justice of Christ, which is imputed unto us freely by faith. And as for that new life or justice which is called inherēt in us, it is not the cause but the witness of that justice, by imputation of which, we are saved, following him that is justified, and not going before justification: and faith indeed, is the instrument by which we apprehend Christ our justice. Neither doth Beza say, that we are not truly justified by faith: but that faith is not the principal efficient cause, which is the mercy of God, but the instrumental cause, by which we take hold of the mercy of God in Christ. In all this, Beza hath said nothing contrary to himself, nor to the truth. And it is no absurdity to say, that the justice of Christ, by which we are justified is no more inherent in us, than his glory. And yet both assured unto us by faith. As for that justice, which is an effect of God's sanctifying spirit, and a fruit of our justification before God, by which also we are justified, or declared just before men, as S. James teacheth, is inherēt in us: as also the first fruits of glorification, by that peace of conscience, & joy that we have in God, being reconciled to us by Christ.

MART. 3. For this purpose both he and the English Bibles translate thus: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him FOR IVSTICE, Rom. 4. v. 3. & 9. Where he interpreateth, for justice, to be nothing else but. in the steed & place of justice: so also taking away true inherent justice even from Abraham himself. But to admit their translation (which notwithstanding in their sense is moste false) must it needs signify, not true inherent justice, because the Scripture saith, it was reputed for justice? Do such speeches import, that it is not so in deed, but is only reputed so? Then if we say, This shall be reputed to thee for sin: for a great benefit, and so forth: it should signify, it is no sin indeed, nor great benefit. But let them call to mind, that the Scripture useth to speak of sin and of justice alike. It shall be sin in thee, or, unto thee, as they translate Bibl. 1577: or as S. Jerome translateth, It shall be reputed to thee for sin, Deut. c. 23. & 24. & (as themselves translate) it shall be righteousness unto thee, before the Lord thy God. And again, Deut. c. 6. This shall be our righteousness before the Lord our God, if we keep all the commandments, as he hath commanded us. If then justice only be reputed▪ sin also is only reputed: if sin be in v indeed, justice is in us indeed.

FULK. 3. Our translation taketh not from Abraham true justice, nor yet justice inherent, but declareth that he was not justified before God by works, that is by justice inherent, but by faith which apprehendeth the justice of Christ, which is altogether without us. And therefore you cavil in your old rotten quarrel, when you go about to make reputed to be contrary to truth, or indeed. Faith was reputed by God to Abraham for justice indeed, but not as justice inherent. And Abrahā was truly justified by faith as by an instrumental cause, not that faith was the justice by which he was just in the sight of God, excluding all other causes: but there was nothing in Abrahā but faith which God accounted for justice. But Abraham's faith embraced the mercy of God in the promised seed, in which as well he, as all the tribes of the earth should be blessed. The places of scripture that you cite speaking of sin & justice alike, be not contrary to the imputation of justice unto them in which it is not inherent. For in neither of both places the holy ghost useth the word of imputation, howsoever S. Jerome translateth it, but the verb substantive. And the meaning is plain. It shall be sin in thee: for sin is indeed inherent, as perfect justice also should be if we could observe all the commandments of God as Moses saith. Deut. 6. and we should be justified thereby. But by one just act whereof Moses speaketh, Deut. 24. though it proceed of justice that is in us, the scripture never saith that we shall be justified. To conclude, we confess, that both sin and justice are in the children of God, but not that justice, whereby they are reputed just or justified, or made just before God, but an effect or fruit thereof.

MART. 4. Again the Greek fathers make it plain, that to be reputed unto justice, is to be true justice in deed, interpreating S. Paul's word in Greek, thus: Abraham obtained justice, Abraham was justified. For that is, say they: It was reputed him to justice. Doth not S. James say the like (cap. 2. verse. 23.) testifying, that in that Abraham was justified by faith and works, the Scripture was fulfilled, that saith, it was reputed him to justice? Gen. Cap. 15. verse. 6. In which words of Genesis, where these words were first written by Moses, in the Hebrew, there is not, for justice, or in steed of justice, (which Beza pleadeth upon, by the Hebrew phrase) but thus, He (God) reputed it unto him, justice, though here also the English Bibles add, for. Which precisely translating the Hebrew they should not do, specially when they mean it was so counted or reputed for justice, that it was not justice indeed.

FULK. 4. I know not against whom you fight, but against your own shadow. For we say, that to be justified, and be reputed just, and to obtain justice, is all one in this case. But where S. James saith, that Abraham was justified by works, he meaneth, that he was declared just before men, even as he saith, show me thy faith by thy works, for Abraham was not justified by a dead faith, but by a working faith: and yet he was not justified before God by works, but the Scripture was fulfilled which said, Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him for justice, which is as S. Paul expoundeth it, Abraham was justified before God, by faith, and not by works, But in Gen. 15. v. 6. there is not the preposition (for) or (in steed) but simply justice; therefore it should be translated he reputed it to him justice. And will you then control both the Apostles, Paul, and James, for adding the preposition 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 ; which signifieth unto, or for? Or will not common sense enforce the same understanding that both the Apostles do give it? He reputed it to him as justice, or for justice. Must not such particles in translation be always expressed, to make the sense plain, which in English without the particle, hath no sense or understanding? To translate precisely out of the Hebrew, is not to observe the number of words, but the perfect sense and meaning of them, in fewer or more words, as the phrase of our tongue will serve to be understood: or else 2. Cor. 8. qui multum, why do you translate, he that had much? and, qui modicum non minorauit, he that had little wanted not? you should have said which much, & which little not lessed, if you would have given word for word, and not added any word for explication. Again, 2. Cor. 1. Supra virtutem, above our power, why add you (our) which is not in the text? and in deed not necessary to be added in the translation? Again, 1. Cor. 13. Euacuaui quae erant paruuli, I did away the things that belonged to a little one. Here for four Latin words you have given ten or eleven English words, which no reasonable man can greatly mislike, if you were not such a quarreller at other men's doing, without all cause, or wise color, but only to blear the eyes of the ignorant.

MART. 5. But as for either the Hebrew or Greek word, that is here used, to repute or account, they are then used, whē it must needs signify, that the thing is so in deed, and not only so reputed. as Psal. 118. octonario SAMEC. I have reputed or accounted all the sinners of the earth, preuaricators or transgressors. praeuaricantes reputaui. So did the Septuaginta take the Hebrew word, and read it. And S. Paul, So let a man repute or account us as the Ministers of Christ. Let them go now and say, that neither they, were sin rs in deed, nor these, Christ's ministers in deed, because they were reputed for such. let them say the children of the promise were not the seed of Abraham, because the Apostle saith, Rom. 9. v. 8. they are reputed for the seed. But howsoever it be, the Protestants will have it so to be taken, at the least in the matter of justification.

FULK. 5. Silence were the best answer to these tedious repetitions. It were sufficient once to say among reasonable men. When faith is reputed by God, or accounted for justice, faith is truly and in deed the instrumental cause of justification, or apprehending the justice of Christ, by which we are accounted and made just in the sight of God. It is therefore a most ridiculous cavil of the difference between reputing just, and being just in deed. For God when he justifieth the ungodly, doth both repute him, and make him just in deed, by the justice of Christ, of his own mere mercy, and not of the man's merits, or by justice inherent. For what justice can be in an v godly man? and such is everyone of us, whom God doth justify, and then give us his holy spirit, to sanctify us in newness of life, to set forth his glory in our holy and blameless conversation.

MART. 6. Again, where Saint Paul saith, 2. Cor. 5. That we might be made the justice of God in him: they in their first translations, intolerably corrupt i thus: That we by his means should be that righteousness, which BEFORE GOD IS ALLOWED. Who aught them to translate so dissolutely, Iustitia Dei, the righteousness which before God is allowed? did not their error and heresy, which is, that God reputeth and accounteth us for just, though we be in deed moste foul sinners, and that our justice being none at all in us, yet is allowed and accepted before him for justice and righteousness?

FULK. 6. There is no text in all the Bible more clear against justification by justice inhae ent. than this 2. Corinth. 5. wherein not altogether causeless you reprove our first interpreters to translate dissolutely. There it is certain they had no such purpose as you ascribe unto them. For their translation doth rather obscure than set out our justification by the justice which is not in us, but in Christ. The text is therefore plain: him that knew no sin, he made sin for us, that we might become the justice of God in him, that is in Christ, and not in our sel es. For though we be in deed most foul sinners, and all our justice be (as the Prophet saith) as a menstruous cloth: yet in Christ he washeth and cleanseth us from our sins, and reputing his justice as ours, he maketh us truly just before him, not having our own justice which is of the law, but the justice which is by faith of Jesus Christ, the justice which is of God through faith. Where you charge us to affirm, that our justice being none at all in us, yet is allowed and accepted before him for justice and righteousness, it is no assertion of ours, but a dogged slander of your own.

MART. 7. Again to this purpose: they make S. Paul say that God hath made us accepted, or freely accepted in his beloved son as they make the Angel in S. Luke say to our Lady, Hail freely beloved: to take away all grace inherent and resident in the B. Virgin, or in us: whereas the Apostles word signifieth, that we are truly made gracious or grateful and acceptable, that is to say, that our soul is inwardly endued and beautified with grace and the virtues proceeding thereof, and consequently is holy in deed before the sight of God, and not only so accepted or reputed, as they imagine. If they know not the true signification of the Greek word, and if their heresy will suffer them to learn it, let them hear S. Chrysostom not only a famous Greek Doctor, but an excellent interpreter of all S. Paul's epistles: who in this place putteth such force and significancie in the Greek word, that he saith thus by an allusion and distinction of words: He said not, WHICH HE FREELY GAVE VS, but, WHEREIN HE MADE VS GRATEFVL, that is, not only delivered us from sin, but also made us beloved and amiable, made our soul beautiful, grateful, such as the Angels and Archangels are desirous to see, and such as himself is in love withal, according to that in the Psalm, THE KING SHALL DESIRE, or BE IN LOVE WITH THY BEAVTIE. So S. Chrysostom, and after him Theophylacte, who with many moe words and similitudes explicate this Greek word, and this making of the soul gracious and beautiful inwardly, truly, and inherently.

FULK. 7. We make S. Paul say no otherwise, than he saith in deed: 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , he hath made us accepted, or he hath freely accepted us in his beloved son. And so we truly say, the blessed Virgin Mary was freely accepted, or freely beloved. But this taketh not away the gracious gifts of God, which the blessed Virgin in most plentiful manner was, and we in some measure are endued by his grace and favor, which also God loveth in us, because they be his gifts, and because he loveth us freely in his beloved son, whom always you forget, when you speak of justice, or acceptation before God. For that being sanctified by his spirit, we are holy indeed, though not perfectly, as sanctification is begun, and not consummate in this life: for if it were, we should be void of sin, & death, we do thankfully acknowledge, yet those virtues wherewith our soul is inwardly endued and beautified, are not the cause that justifieth us, or maketh us acceptable in God's sight: but only his mercy in Jesus Christ, for whose sake also, he accepteth this imperfect holiness and righteousness, which is in us by his grace and gift, rewarding the same for his sake also with everlasting glory. And nothing else doth Chrysostom say, or mean in the place by you cited, about whom you make so many words, that you might be thought, by giving him his due praise, to have him as it were bound to you, to maintain your unrighteous cause. But Chrysostom careth not for your commendation, and that which he saith, maketh nothing for justice inherent, by which we should be justified: for he saith not so much, as that our soul is made amiable and beautiful by virtues and good qualities infused by his grace, much less that for such qualities inherent in us, GOD should justify us, but he haeth made us acceptable in Christ, amiable, and beautiful, and lovely to the Angels: some effect of which grace, also appeareth in our life and conversation, to the praise of God, and good example of men.

MART. 8. And I would gladly know of the adversaries, if the like Greek words be not of that form and nature, to signify so much as to make worthy, to make meet: & whether he whom God maketh worthy, or meet, or grateful, just, and holy, be not so in very deed, but by acceptation only▪ if not in deed, then God maketh him no better than he was before, but only accepteth him for better: if he be so in deed, then the Apostles word signifieth not, to make accepted, but to make such an one as being by God's grace sanctified and justified, is worthy to be accepied, for such purity, virtue, and justice, as is in him.

FULK. 8. I have told you before, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , signifieth not to make worthy, but to account worthy, for many a man may desire (using this verb) to be accounted worthy of him, which cannot make him worthy, but in his own judgment and account. But where you demand further, whether he whom God maketh meet, worthy, grateful, just, holy, be not so in deed, but by acceptation only: I answer, those whom he accepteth for worthy, meet, just, holy, grateful, are so in deed: but then it is further to be known, whether they be such in them selves, or in Christ. We say they are not such in them selves, but in Christ. Then are they made nothing better (say you) in them selves. Yes verily, as soon as they are accepted to be God's children, and the justice of Christ is imputed to thē through faith, they receive the spirit of adoption, which reneweth them in the inward man, and beginneth in them holiness, and justice, purity, virtue: but because all these qualities are imperfect, they are not worthy in God's justice to be accepted for them, but the cause of their acceptation, is still the mercy of God in Christ, in whom both they, and their imperfect good qualities are accepted to reward.

MART. 9. Again, for this purpose (Dan. 6. 22.) they will not translate according to Chaldee, Greek, and Latin, Justice was found in me. but they alter it thus, My justice was found out. and other of them, My vnguiltinesse was found out. to draw it from inherent justice, which was in Daniel.

FULK. 9. I can but wonder at your impudence and malice, which say so confidently, that for this purpose they translated thus: Would any man by the justice, or innocence that was in Daniel, or in any just man, fear lest anything should be detracted from the justice of Christ, whereby Daniel, and all just men, are justified in God's sight? Well, let that purpose rest in God's judgment, as Daniel's justice did, when he was shamefully slandered. But what is the fault of the translation? According to the Chaldee, Greek, and Latin, it should be, Justice is found in me. For Greek and Latin, we will not contend, because we translate not Daniel out of Greek, and Latin, but out of the Chaldee. But in good sadness, are you so deeply seen in Chaldee, that you will avouch the proper signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 to be in me. A hundred boys in Cambridge know, that it signifieth as well in Chaldee, as in Hebrew, to me, rather than in me. But moste properly have our translators expressed the phrase in English, saying, my justice, or vnguiltines was found out: for of a virtue inherent, Daniel speaketh otherwise, Dan. 2. v. 30. to the king 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 not by wisdom, which is in me. So that here your quarrel bewrayeth more spite than wit, more malice than learning.

MART. 10. Again, it must needs be a spot of the same infection, that they translate thus, As David DESCRIBETH the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness. Rom. 4. 6. as though imputed righteousness were the description of blessedness. They know▪ the Greek doth not signify, to describe. I would once see them precise in following the Greek, and the Hebrew▪ if not, we must look to their fingers.

FULK. 10. It must needs come of an high wit, to have such deep insight into other men's intents, & purposes. But why I pray you, is not righteousness imputed by God, &c. and so forth, as Paul saith, a description of man's blessedness. If they had said, defineth, where they say, describeth, you would have made much a do. But can you not allow this, that the Prophet saith, to be a description of man's blessedness? howsoever it is, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signifieth not to describe, but to speak, to say, to pronounce, and in effect, there is nothing else meant by the word▪ describeth, here used, but that David pronounceth or setteth forth the blessedness of man in such words. You in your translation say, termeth, as David termeth, which if you mean it not scornfully, cometh as near a definition, as, describeth, the word which we use, and our, describeth, is as near the Greek 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , as your, termeth, is to the Latin dicit. But look to our fingers, and spare not to tell us where you see us go wide from the Greek or Hebrew, but if you do nothing but trifle and quarrel, as you have done hitherto, be sure we will be bold to beshrew your fingers▪ and hit you on the thumbs now and then also to your discredit.

CHAP. XII.

Heretical translation for SPECIAL FAITH, vain security, and ONELY FAITH.

MARTIN.

AL other means of salvation being thus taken away, their only and extreme refuge is, Only faith, & the same not the Christian faith of the articles of the creed, & such like, but a special faith & confidence, whereby every man must assuredly believe, that himself is the Son of God, and one of the elect, and praedestinate to salvation. If he be not by faith as sure of this as of Christ's incarnation, he shall never be saved.

FULK.

AL other means of salvation being taken away, and only faith apprehending the mercy of God in the redemption of Jesus Christ, being left, we have great & sufficient cause, to account our selves happy, and assured of eternal life, because he that hath promised, is faithful also to perform. But where you say that our only faith, is not the Christian faith of the articles of the creed, you lie without measure impudently: for that faith, and none other do we believe, teach, and profess. And that faith is a special faith and confidence in the mercy of God, whereof every man that believeth, doth make a singular confession for himself, saying, I believe in God, &c. And of all things contained in that profession of faith (that is, of forgiveness of sins, resurrection of our bodies, and life everlasting, by belief and trust in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord, conceived, borne, suffered, crucified, dead, buried, descended into hell; risen again, and ascended into heaven, and in God the holy Ghost, by whose gracious and mighty working we are incorporate into the body of Christ, and made members of his holy Catholic Church, which is the communion of Saints) every Christian man ought to be as certainly persuaded, as the things are most true, being inwardly taught by the spirit of truth, that he is the child of God, and consequently elect, & predestinate unto eternal salvation. But that a man s ••• l never be saved, except he have such certainty of this faith, as the truth of God's promises doth deserve, none of us doth teach, none of us doth think. For we know our own infirmity, we know the temptation of Satan, nevertheless we acknowledge in our selves, and so seek to persuade all men, that these things standing upon the immovable pillars of God's promises, who can neither deceive nor be deceived, ought to be most certain unto us, and for daily confirmation and increase of this faith all those means are of us diligently to be used, that God for this purpose in his holy Scripture hath appointed.

MART. 2. For this heresy, they force the Greek to express the very word of assurance and certainty, thus: Let us draw nigh with a true heart, IN ASSVRANCE OF FAITH. Heb. 10. v. 22. and Beza, Certa persuasione fidei, that is, with a certain & assured persuasion of faith: interpreting him self more at large in another place, that he meaneth thereby such a persuasion and so effectual, as by which we know assuredly without all doubt, that nothing can separate us from God. Which their heretical meaning maketh their translation the less tolerable, because they neither express the Greek precisely, nor intend the true sense of the Apostle, they express not the Greek, which signifieth properly the fullness and cōplement of anything, and therefore the Apostle joineth it sometime with faith, else where (Hebr. 6. v. 11.) with hope, with knowledge, or ( Col. 2. v. 2.) understanding, to signify the fullness of all three, as the vulgar Latin interpreter most sincerely ( Ro. 4. v. 21.) always translateth it: & to Timothy, ( 2. Tim. 4.) he useth it to signify the full accomplishment & executiō of his ministry in every point. Where a man may wonder that Beza to maintain his conceived signification of this word, translateth here also accordingly, thus: Ministerij tui plenā fidem facito: but their more currant Church English Bibles are content to say with the vulgar Latin interpreter, fulfil thy ministry: or, fulfil thine office to the utmost. And the Greek fathers do find no other interpretation. Thus, when the Greek signifieth fullness of faith, rather than assurance or certain persuasion, they translate not the Greek precisely. Again in the sense they err much more, applying the foresaid words to the certain & assured faith that every man ought to have (as they say) of his own salvation. Whereas the Greek fathers expound it of the full and assured faith that every faithful man must have of all such things in heaven as he seeth not, namely that Christ is ascended thither, &c. adding further and proving out of the Apostles words next following, that the Protestants* only faith is not sufficient, be it never so special or assured.

FULK. 2. Having nothing to impugn this clear interpretatiō of the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , but the imperfect translatiō of your vulgar Latin interpreter, who was both an imperfect grecian, & a very barbarous Latinist, you are not ashamed to say, we force the Greek, to make it signify assurance: which all men that are but meanly learned in the Greek tongue, may know, that it signifieth assurance, or full & certain persuasiō. Although for the question in controversy, the fullness of faith will prove the certainty, as much in a manner, as the assurance. But that the Greek signifieth a full and certain persuasion, I report me not only to the best Greek Dictionaries of this time, but also to Budeus, who citeth Isocrates out of Trapezuntius for proof, that it is so used, & also interpreteth that of S. Paul Rom. 14. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , let every man be certain of his own mind. But you have a doughty argument, that it is not only joined with faith, but also with hope, knowledge, and understanding, as though there could not be a certain persuasion and assurance of hope, knowledge, and understanding: yea the assurance of hope dependeth upon the assurance of faith, and the assurance of faith upon the certain persuasion of knowledge and understanding. Yea your vulgar interpretor translating 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Rom. 4. v. 21. Plenissime sciens, knowing most fully, may teach you, that it signifieth more than fullness, for else he should have said being fulfilled. And better doth Beza express the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , 2. Tim. 4. than some of our English interpreters, which say, fulfil thy ministry: whereas the Apostles meaning is, that he should approve the credit and dignity of his ministry, unto other men. But the Greek fathers (you say) find none other interpretation of it, and for proof you cite Ignatius ep. ad Smyr. which although it be not authentical, yet I see no cause why we may not interpret 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , being certainly persuaded in faith & love, and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , in the assurance of faith. And so is it translated in Bibliotheca sacra Margarini de la Bigne, Plene instructae in fide & charitate, & cognoui vos absolute perfectos in fule stabili, fully instructed in faith and charity, and I have known you absolutely perfect in a stedfaste faith. Chrysostom and Theodoret, because you vouch at large, I know not what you would show out of them. In Theophylact I find, that he speaketh against all hesitation & doubtfulness of faith, but against the certain persuasion thereof never a word.

Ne aliquam inducas in animum tuum haesitationem, neque pendeas animi, dubij quiddam cogitans. Bring not into thy mind any staggering, neither be incertaine of thy mind, thinking any doubtful thing.
But for the signification of the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , S. Basil may be a sufficient witness, who commonly useth it for assured and certain persuasion. •• 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . 26. Every word and deed must be proved by ••• testimony of the holy Scripture,
〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , to the full and certain persuasion of the go ••• ▪ & to the shame of the wicked.
Again desin. 80. what is the property of a faithful man 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , &c. By such assured persuasiō to be disposed, &c. Evē so 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , to the certain persuasiō of godliness &c. and so in other places. And you yourself confess as much, where you say, the Greek fathers expound it of the full assured faith &c. which is enough to justify our translation. Now if the fathers understood this full assured faith only of an historical faith (as you say) & not of trust and confidence in God, it is another controversy. Our translation is not false, although we had a false meaning, if it be answereable to the words. Neither doth Chrysostom speak of an historical faith only, by certainty whereof we have access unto God: but also of confidence, which remissiō of our sins doth cause, and that we are made coheirs with Christ, & that we enjoy so great love,
neither doth he prove that the Protestants only faith is not sufficient to iustisie. But the Apostle showeth (saith he) that not faith alone, but also a virtuous life is required, & that a man be not guilty to himself of malitiousnes. For these holy places do not receive those men, with certain assurance, which are not made such.
This judgment of Chrysostom the Protestants do allow of better thā the Papists: for we know, that a godly life is necessary in them that believe to justification, without which they can have no assurance of faith, no nor faith in deed, but that which is by aequiuocation called faith, such saith as the Devil and the reprobate may have.

MART. 3. Yet do these terms please them exceedingly, in so much that for the chosen gift of faith, Sap. 3. 14. they translate, THE SPECIAL gift of faith: and Rom. 8. 38. •• ni sure, that nothing can separate us from the love of God. 〈◊〉 though the Apostle were certain and assured not only of h 〈…〉 wne salvation, but of other men's. For to this sense they do 〈◊〉 translate here, whereas in other places out of controversy they translate the same word as they should do, I am persuaded, they are persuaded, &c. For who knoweth not that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 importeth only a probable persuasion? They will say that I am sure, and I am persuaded, is all one. Being well meant, they may indeed signify alike, as the vulgare Latin interpreter doth commonly translate it, but in this place of controversy, whether the Apostle were sure of his salvation or no, which you say he was, yea without revelation, we say he was not: here why would you translate, I am sure, and not as in other places, I am persuaded, but in favor of your error, by insinuating the terms of sure, and assurance, and such like: as elsewhere you neglect the terms of just and justification. In which your secrete things of dishonesties & craftiness (as the Apostle calleth it) we cannot always use demonstrations to convince you: but yet even in these things we talk with your conscience, and leave the consideration thereof to the wise reader.

FULK. 3. Seeing they accompt the book of Wisdom to be of no authority to establish the certainty of doctrine, it is not like they could have any such respect, as you maliciously surmise. And yet the translation good and true. For what is the choice gift of faith, but a special gift? Or dare you say, that faith is not a special gift of God? They say not a special faith, but a special gift of faith. The other quarrel of the translation of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , I am sure, is so brutish, that when you confess the vulgare Latin interpreater commonly to translate it, Certus sum, and that in the end, you can use no demonstration to convince us, yet still nevertheless you charge our conscience with the secreate things of dishonesty. That the Apostle was sure of his own salvation, by the testimony of God's spirit which is given to all his children, we doubt not, and that he was sure of the salvation of all God's elect, of which it is impossible, that any should perish. And seeing the same spirit of adoptiō is givē to all the children of God, which is the earnest of the heavenly inheritance, we cā not affirm without blasphemy against God's truth, that any mā ought to discredit the promises of God, or the testimony of his spirit.

MART. 4. You hold also in this kind of contronersie, that a man must assure himself that his sins be forgiven. but in the book of Eccle. c. 5. v. 5. We read thus, Of thy sin forgivē, be not without fear. or (as it is in the Greke) Of forgiveness & propitiation be not without fear, to heap sin upon sins. Which you translate falsely, thus: Because thy sin is forgiven thee, be not therefore without fear. Is that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , because thy sin is forgiven thee? You know it is not: but that we should be afraid of the very forgiveness thereof, whether our sin be forgiven or no, or rather, whether our sin shall be forgiven, or no, if we heap one sin upon another. Which seemeth to be the truest sense of the place, by the words following▪ as though he should say, Be not bold upon forgiveness to heap sin vpō sin, as though God will easily forgive, &c.

FULK. 4. We hold, that a man, when he is truly penitent, ought to assure himself, that his sins be forgiven him, because God hath so promised, in an hundred places, without injury of whose credit, we cannot doubt of the performance of his promise. But that which the son of Sirach speaketh of propitiatiō, is meant of the shadowie propitiation by the sacrifices of the law, which cannot assure any man of the forgiveness of his sins by themselves, much less them that heap sin upon sin, which are never truly repentant. For unto true repentance is required an hatred of sin, & a desire, & purpose of amendment. Our translation is (as your vulgar Latin) not precise to the words of the Greek, but just unto the meaning, for the words are, concerning propitiation, be not without fear: and your Latin is, De propitiato peccato, of sin forgiven. And if you will reprove your Latin, as well as our English, and say, we must be afraid of the very forgiveness, I have told you, that the forgiveness of God testified by the sacrifices, pertained unto them that be truly penitent, and not to hypocrites. And where you make it a doubt, whether sin shall be forgiven, or no, in them that heap one sin upon another: we are out of doubt, that sin shall never be forgiven to such, as so continue without true conversion unto God.

MART. 5. I touched before upon another occasion, how you add to the text, making the Apostle say thus, Ephes. 3. By whom we have boldness and entrance with THE CONFIDEHCE WHICHE Is by the faith of him, or (as in another Bible, which is all one) in the confidence by faith of him. The learned and skillful among you in the Greke tongue, know that this translation is false for two causes, the one is, because the Greek in that case should be thus, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . another cause is, the point after 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . so that the very simple & sincere translation is this, we have affiaunce and access with confidence, by the faith of him. even as elsewhere it is said, we have confidence, if our heart reprehend us not: we have confidence by keeping the commandments, by tribulations and afflictions, and all good works. hope also giveth us great confidence. Against all which, your translation is prejudicial, limiting and defining our confidence toward God, to be faith, as though we had no confidence by works, or otherwise.

FULK. 5. For understanding of the article, I have answered already, & mean not here to repeat it. The point you miss, in the Bible 1577. is observed in that boke which I have of Richard lugs printing. By whom we have boldness and entrance in the confidence, by faith of him. But it cannot be, the confidence (you think) but, confidence: because the article 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is not put before the word, that signifieth confidence. But all Englishemen know that our English (the) may be put, and sometime must be put before nounes, without any article either in Greek or Latin. And in this place, I would not give a rush to choose, whether it be in or out, for any sense that it changeth. What confidence we have by a good conscience, by suffering tribulation, and by all good works, it skilleth not for this question, so it be determined, that we have no confidence in the merits of a good conscience, of suffering, of all good works that we can do▪ to have boldness and entrance unto God. But of merits we have spoken before in their proper place.

MART. 6. For this confidence by faith only, Beza translateth so willfully & perversely, that either you were ashamed to follow him, or you lacked a cōmodious English word correspondēt to his Latin. If I have all faith (saith the Apostle) and have not charity, I am nothing▪ totam fidem (saith Beza) I had rather translate, than, omnem fidem, because the Apostle meaneth not all kind of faith. to wit the faith that justifieth: but he meaneth, that if a man have the faith of Christ's omnipotency, or of any other article of the Creed, or of all wholly & entirely & perfectly, that is nothing without charity. This is Beza's tota fides, whole faith, thinking by this translation to exempt frō the Apostles words, their special justifying faith, and wrestling to that purpose in his annotatiōs against Pighius and other Catholic Doctors. Whereas every man of small skil may see, that the Apostle nameth all faith, as he doth all knowledge and all mysteries: comprehending all sortes of the one and of the other: all kind of knowledge, all kind of mysteries, all faith whatsoever, Christian, Catholic, historical, or special, which two later, are Heretical terms newely devised.

FULK. 6. When your spiteful and dogged malice cannot reprove our English translation, then we must answer for Beza's Latin, who hath sufficiently answered for himself, to them that understand, and list to read him. In the place mentioned by you, he chooseth to say totam fidem, rather than omnem, because it appeareth by the effects, that he speaketh of faith, as it was a special gift of working of miracles, of which effects he nameth one, removing of mountains. And that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is so taken, namely for the perfection of one kind, not the universal comprehension of all kinds, he bringeth you example, Ro. 7. v. 8. and elsewhere oftentimes. But if it should be taken (as you say) all knowledge, & all mysteries is generally to be taken, yet he telleth you, this separation is but upon an impossible supposition, for justifying faith can never be separated from charity, but if it might be separated, it should not profit to justify. The Angels of heaven cannot preach another gospel: but if they did preach another gospel, they should be accursed. A great argument I promise you against justification by faith only, that a solitary, dead, or barraine faith doth not justify.

MART. 7. And I would have any of the Bezites give me a sufficient reason, why he translated, totam fidem, and not also, totam scientiam: undoubtedly there is no cause, but the heresy of special and only faith. And again, why he translateth Iaco. 2. 22. Thou seest, that faith was (administra) a helper of his works: and expoundeth it thus, Faith was an efficient cause and fruitful of good works. Whereas the Apostles words be plain, that faith wrought together with his works, yea and that his faith was by works made perfect. This is impudent handling of Scripture, to make works the fruit only and effect of faith, which is your heresy.

FULK. 7. If you dare draw forth your pen against Beza, and demand an answer of himself, although he hath already given you a sufficient reason to induce, that the Apostle speaketh not of faith, as generally as of knowledge, because by an example of removing mountains, he restraineth it to one kind of faith. As for the other question, why he translateth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , I am. 2. v. 22. was an helper; me think you should make best answer yourself, who not long since, by force of that word, would needs prove, that men were helpers of God, chap. 10. sect. 6. Have you so soon forgotten your own voice? and is this impudent handling of the scripture, to translate, as you yourself in another case though impertinently did contend the word to signify? But works you will not have to be the fruit only and effect of faith: because the Apostle saith that faith wrought together with his works, and by works his faith was made perfect, as though apples are not the fruit of the tree, because the tree doth bear them, and by them, if they be good, the tree is made a good tree.

MART. 8. Which heresy also must needs be the cause, that, to suppress the excellency of charity (which the Apostle giveth it above faith, or any other gift whatsoever, in these words, And yet I show you a more excellent way, 1. Cor. 12. v. 31. ) he in one edition of the New Testament (in the year 1556.) translateth thus, Behold moreover also I show you a way most diligently. What cold stuff is this, & howe impertinent? In another edition (an. 1565.) he mended it thus: And besides I show you a way to excellency. In neither of both expressing the comparison of preeminence & excellency, that charity hath in the Apostles words, and in all the chapter following. Wherein you did well (for your credit) not to follow him (no not your Bezites them selves) but to translate after our vulgar Latin interpreter, as it hath always been read & understood in the Church.

FULK. 8. The rareness of the phrase, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 &c. as all indifferent men will judge, rather than any mind to suppress the excellency of charity, caused Beza to give diverse interpretations of that place, of which yet the latter more commendeth the excellency of charity, than the vulgar Latin, or our Eaglishe translation, which expoundeth it as the Latin doth: for if charity be the way to excellency, it is a greater commendation thereof, than to say, it is a more excellent way than other gifts, whereof he spake last, as of healing, of tongues, of interpretations, &c.

MART. 9. Luther was so impudent in this case, that, because the Apostle spake not plàinely enough for only faith, he thrust (only) into the text of his translation, as himself witnesseth, you durst not hitherto presume so far in this question of only faith, though in other controversies you have done the like, as is shown in their places. But I will ask you a smaller matter, which in words & show you may perhaps easily answer, but in your conscience there will remain a gnawing worm. In so many places of the Gospel, where our Savior requireth the people's faith, when he healed them of corporal diseases only, why do you so gladly translate thus, Thy faith hath saved thee, rather than thus, thy faith hath healed thee, or made thee whole? is it not, by joining these words together, to make it sound in English ears, that faith saveth or justifieth a man? in so much that Beza noteth in the margent thus, fides saluat: that is, faith saveth. & your Geneva Bibles, in that place where it cannot be taken for faith that justifieth, because it is not the parties faith, but her fathers that Christ required, there also translate thus, Believe only, & she shall be saved. Which translation, though very false and impertinent for justifying faith, as you seem to acknowledge by translating it otherwise in your other Bibles: yet in deed you must needs maintain and hold it for good, whiles you allege this place for only faith, as is evident in your writings.

FULK. 9. That which Luther might well do as an interpretor, or expounder, it was much boldness for him to do, as a translator: but seeing he him self hath redressed his own offense, we have less to say for him, and you against him. For our additions, except such as the necessity of our English phrase doth require for understanding, you slander us to say, that we have in any controversies done the like. The question you ask, is not worthy any answer, why we translate, thy faith hath saved thee, &c. seeing we use all these words indifferently, healing, making safe, and making whole, as in S. James we say, Can faith save him? And it is all one, to say, thy faith hath saved thee, and thy faith hath made thee whole. But you say, we allege this place for only faith justifying, citing the answers of Master Gough, & M. Tomson, against Feckenham. I think you lie, as in other places very commonly. And yet an argument, though not a plain testimony, may be taken out of these places for only faith justifying. Seeing Christ was not a physician for the body, but to teach mē that he was a Physician for the soul, and as he healed the diseased in body only by faith, so he cureth the sickuesse of the soul by the same instrument of faith only, which by other places may be more directly proved, and here also in some sort is insinuated.

MAR. 10. This then you see is a fallacy, whē faith only is required to the health of the body, as in many such places (though not in all) there by translation to make it sound a justifying faith, as though faith only were required to the health of the soul. Whereas that faith was of Christ's omnipotency only and power, which Beza confesseth may be in the devils themselves, and is far from the faith that justifieth. If you say, the Greek signifieth as you translate: it doth so in deed, but it signifieth also very commonly to be healed corporally, as (by your own translation) in these places, Marc. 5. v. 28. Marc. 6. v. 36. Luc. 8. v. 36. & v. 51. Where you translate, I shall be whole. They were healed. He was healed. She shall be made whole. And why do you here translate so? because you know, to be saved, importeth rather another thing, to wit, salvation of the soul: and therefore when faith is joined withal, you translate rather saved, than, healed, (though the place be meant of bodily health only) to insinuate by all means your justification by only faith.

FULK. 10. It is no fallacy: from the health of the body, to ascend higher to the health of the soul, but that direct and plain way, by which Christ himself would be known to be savior of the world, not of the body only, but of the body and soul together. And commonly his bodily cures were joined with forgiveness of sins, which are causes of all maladies, and with health of their souls, whose bodies were made safe. As for justification by faith only, we mean none otherwise to insinuate it in this place, than Christ himself doth, by doing miracles, in giving health of the body, to testify that he is the only author of the salvation of men's souls.

CHAP. XIII.

Heretical translation against PENANCE and SATISFACTION.

Martin.

VPon the heresy of only faith justifying, and saving a man, followeth the denial of all penance and satisfaction for sins. Which Beza so abhorreth, ( Annot. in Mat. 3. v. 2 ) that he maketh protestation, that he auoydeth these terms, Poenitentia, and, Poenitentiam agere, of purpose: and that he will always use for them in translating the Greek words, resipiscentia, and, resipiscere. Which he doth observe perhaps, but that sometimes he is worse than his promise, translating most falsely and heretically, for resipiscentia, resipiscentes: so that your English Bezites them selves are ashamed to translate after him. Who otherwise follow his rule for the most part, translating resipiscentia, amendment of life: and, resipiscite, amende your lives. and the other English Bibles when they translate best, say, repentance, and, repent: but none of them all once have the words, penance, and, do penance. Which in most places is the very true translation, according to the very circumstance of the text, and use of the Greek word, in the Greek Church, and the ancient Latin translation thereof, and all the fathers reading thereof, and their expositions of the same. Which four pointes I think not amiss, briefly to prove, that the Reader may see the use and signification of these words, which they of purpose will not express, to avoid the terms of penance, and, doing penance.

Fulke.

IF by penance you mean satisfaction for sins, by any suffering of ours, we abhor your penance, as an horrible blasphemy against the blood of Christ. And for that cause, Beza, as hath been shown before, useth the word resipiscentia, rather than poenitentia: because the Greek word signifieth, not only a sorrow for sin, but also a purpose of amendment of life. We in English use the word repentance, or amendment of life, which word of repentance, you use also sometimes, when it pleaseth you, or when you cannot for shame use your popish term of doing penance,

The cause why we never use that word penance, is, for that you mean not thereby that which the Scripture calleth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , but a certain punishment taken upon men, for satisfaction of their sins unto God, which is abhominable for all Christian ears to hear, which acknowledge that the blood of Christ only purgeth us from all sin. But in four pointes you will prove, (if you can) that we should translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , to do penance.

MART. 2. First, that the circumstance of the text doth give it so to signify, we read in S. Matthew, cap. 11. v. 21. If in Tyre and Sidon had been wrought the miracles that have been wrought in you, they had done penance in hairecloth, or sackcloth and ashes long ago. And in S. Luke, cap. 10. v. 13. they had done penance, fitting in sackcloth and ashes. I beseech you, these circumstances of sackcloth and ashes adjoined, do they signify penance and affliction of the body, or only amendment of life, as you would have the word to signify? S. Basil saith, in Psal. 29. Sackcloth maketh for penance. For the fathers in old time sitting in sackcloth and ashes, did penance. Unless you will translate S. Basil also after your fashion, whom you cannot any way translate, but the sense must needs be, penance, and, doing penance. Again S. Paul saith, You were made sorry to penance, or, to repentance, say which you will: and, The sorrow which is according to God, worketh penance, or, repentance unto salvation. Is not sorrow, and bitter mourning, and affliction, partes of penance? Did the incestuous man whom Saint Paul excommunicated, and afterward absolved him▪ because of his exceeding sorrow and tears, for fear lest he might be overwhelmed with sorrow, did he, I say, change his mind only, or amend his life, as you translate the Greek word, and interpret repentance? did he not penance also for his fault, enjoined of the Apostle? when Saint John the Baptist saith, and Saint Paul exhorteth the like, Do fruits worthy of penance, or as you translate, meet for repentance: Do they not plainly signify penitential works, or the works of penance? which is the very cause why Beza rather translated in those places, Do the fruits meet for them that amend their lives. or, give us some other good cause Oye Bezites, why your master doth so fo lie falsify his translation.

FULK. 2. Such is your malicious frowardness, that you will not understand resipiscentia, repentance, or amendment of life, a sorrow or grief of mind for the life past: which is testified sometimes by outward signs of sackcloth and ashes, fasting and humbling of men's bodies, as in the texts of Math. 11. and Luc. 10. and diverse other, is expressed. But show us that the wearing of sackcloth and ashes, is a satisfaction for the life past, or any part of amends to God's justice, or else you do but trifle, and waste the time. But S. Basil saith, that sackcloth maketh for penance, &c. I marvel whether you red that saying in Basil, and durst for sin & shame allege it for your popist penance: where he plainly showeth the use & ende of sack cloth.

〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Sackecloth is an helper unto repentance, being a sign of humiliation, for of old time, the Fathers repented sitting in sackeclothe & ashes. This sign of humbling, or of submission, you have clean omitted.
Thus you use to gelde the Doctors sayings, when you rehearse them. Sackecloth therefore serveth to repentance, as a testimony of sorrow, and humbling of our selves before God, not as any satisfaction or amends for our sins. The rest of the places that you cite, to prove, that sorrow is a part of repentance, are altogether needless, for we also do acknowledge the same. Our question is not of sorrow, but of satisfaction, to be a part of repentance. Likewise the works worthy, or meet for repentance, do argue the repentance to be unfeigned, and vndissembled, but they prove not that by them a satisfaction is made for the sins committed before repentance. For a new life, new manners, new fruits, must follow a mind, that is truly turned unto God; and changed from delight in sin, to hate and abhor sin, and to study unto amendment of life.

MART. 3. Secondly, for the signification of this Greek word, in all the Greek Church, and Greek fathers, even from S. Denys the Areopagite S. Paul's scholar, who must needs deduce it from the Scriptures, and learn it of the Apostles: it is most evident, that they use this word for that penance which was done in the Primitive Church, according to the penitential Canons, whereof all antiquity of Councils and Fathers, is full: in so much that S. Denys reckoning up the three sortes of persons that were excluded from seeing and participating of the divine mysteries of Christ's body and blood, to wit, Catechumens, Poenitents, and the possessed of ill spirits: for, Poenitents, he saith in the Greek, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . that is, such as were in their course of penance, or had not yet done their full penance. Which penance S. Augustine declareth thus: (Ho. 27. inter. 50. ho. and ep. 108.) Est poenitentia grauior, &c. There is a more grievous & more mournful penance, whereby properly they are called in the Church, that are Poenitentes: removed also from partaking the sacrament of the altar. And the Greek Ecclesiastical history thus: In the Church of Rome there is a manifest & known place for the POENITENTS, & in it they stand sorrowful, & as it were mourning, & when the sacrifice is ended, being not made partakers thereof, with weeping and lamentation they cast them selves flat on the ground: then the Bishop weeping also with compassion lifteth them up, and after a certain time enjoined, absolveth them from their penance. This, the Priests, or Bishops of Rome keep frō the very beginning even until our time.

FULK. 3. Although Denis, whose books are now extant, were no more S. Paul's disciple, than he was S. Paul himself: yet I will grant, that the public testification of repentance, in such as had openly fallen, was in the primitive church, not only called, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , by a metonymy, but also, that the word of satisfaction was used, not that they had any meaning to satisfy the justice of God by such external works, but that by those outward trials of their repentance, the Church was satisfied, which by their fall was offended, and the governors of the Church by such signs of true sorrow, and amendment, were persuaded to receive them again into the congregation, from whence, until sufficient trial had of their repentance, they were separated and excluded. But this proveth not, that the inward repentance which God giveth, when he turneth us unto him, hath in it any satisfaction for our sins, which no sacrifice was able to make, but only the lamb of God, which taketh away the sins of the world. The places you cite, as well out of Denis, as of S. Augustine, and Sozomene, do prove this that I say, to be understood of public signs of repentance, without that any satisfaction unto God's justice, in those times by such penance, was intended.

MART. 4. In these words and other in the same Chapter, and in Socrates Greek history likewise when they speak of Poenitents, that confessed and lamented their sins, that were enjoined penance for the same, and did it: I would demand of our English Grecians, in what Greek words they express all this. Do they it not in the words which we now speak of, and which therefore are proved moste evidently to signify penance, and doing penance? Again, when the moste ancient Council of Laodicea. can. 2. saith, That the time of penance should be given to offenders according to the proportion of the fault: And again, can. 9. That such shall not communicate till a certain time, but after they have done penance, and confessed their fault, then to be received: And again, can. 19. After the Catechumens are gone out, that prayer be made of the Poenitentes, or them that are in doing penance. And when the first Council of Nice saith, can. 12. about shortening or prolonging the days of penance, that they must well examine their purpose and manner of doing penance. that is, with what alacrity of mind, tears, patience, humility, good works, they accomplished the same, and accordingly to deal more mercifully with them, as is there expressed in the Council: when Saint Basil, Can. 1. ad Amphiloch. speaketh after the same sort: when Saint Chrysostom calleth the sackcloth, and fasting of the Ninevites for certain days, tot dierum poenitentiam, so many days penance: in all these places, I would gladly know of our English Grecians, whether these speeches of penance, and doing penaun ce, are not expressed by the said Greek words, which they will in no case so to signify.

FULK. 4. A matter of great weight I promise you, to inquire of our English Grecians, in what Greek words they express all this. Verily, in the same Greke words which signify repentance, or repenting, and so may be expressed in English: neither is there anything in any of the Councils or Doctors, by you cited or quoted, that hath any other intention, than I have before expressed. The words of penance, and doing penance, if you meant the same by them, that we and you do by repenting and repentance, we would not strive with you for terms: but that you have another meaning in them appeareth by this that you translate the same word poenitentia, commonly penance, as when it is agere poenitentiam, but when it is said that God doth, dare poenitentiam, then you translate it repentance. Whereby it appeareth, you mean the penance which you would have men to do, is not that repentance which is the gift of God. Else why say you not, Acts. 5. that God hath exalted Christ to be Prince and Savior, to give penance to Israel, and remission of sins, if penance and repentance were all one? But you say repentance. Also, Act. 11. God then to the Gentiles hath given repentance to life, where the word is poenitentia in both places. As also, 2. Tim. 2. where you say: least sometime God give them repentance to know the truth. Of this repentance which God giveth unto life, and remission of sins withal, satisfaction is no parte: of public repentance so called, when indeed it was a public testification, that God had given inward repentance, we acknowledge satisfaction to the Church, and to the judgment of the governors thereof to be a parte.

MART. 5. Or, I would also ask them, whether in these places they will translate, repentance, and amendment of life, where there is mentioned a prescript time of satisfaction for their fault by such and such penal means: whether there be any prescript times of repentance or amendment of life, to continue so long, and no longer: if not, then must it needs be translated, penance, and doing penance, which is longer or shorter according to the fault, and the manner of doing the same▪ I may repent in a moment, and amende my life at one instant, and this repentance and amendment ought to continue forever. but the holy Councils and Fathers speak of a thing to be done for certain years or days, and to be released at the Bishops discreation: this therefore is penance, and not repentance only or amendment of life, and is expressed by the foresaid Greek words, as also by * another equivalent there unto.

FULK. 5. I have answered before, we may in all these places use the word of repentance, as well as this word repent, the noun as well as the verb. And if we would use the same figure, which they do, that cal such external testimonies of repentance, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , we might use the word of amendment of life also. The prescripte time of satisfaction, I have said was to the church, which was offended and slandered by their open offenses, and to the judgment of the Byshoppe and Elders which had the appointing or releasing of such time of repentance. The other Greek word which you say is aequiualent to 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , namely, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , signifieth to fall down under, or knele before one, as Tertullian expresseth the phrase, praesbyteris aduolui, aris dei adgeniculari, for one to be caste down in humble manner before the Elders, to kneel before the altars of God. Herof 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is used, for that submission which public penitents did show to testify their inward humility, and by a metonymy of the sign, is taken for that which it doth signify, namely, humble and hearty repentance, which is approved before men, by such outward gestures, and tokens of inward grief and humility of mind. So is public fasting in token of repentance, by Tertullian called 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , because it is a sign & token of humiliation and submission of mind, which must of necessity accompany true repentance. Wherefore it is untruly said, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is equivalent with 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which signifieth to change the mind frrm evil to good, whereas the other expresseth but an outward gesture, to signify inward repentance, and that in open repentance only.

MART. 6. I omit that this very phrase, to do penance, is word for word expressed thus in Greek, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . And Ausonius the Christian Poet (whom I may as well allege once, & use it not, as they do Virgil, Terence, & the like very often) useth this Greek word so evidently in this sense, that Beza saith, he did it for his verse sake, because another word would not stand so well in the verse. But the reader (I trust) seeth the use and signification of these Greek words, by the testimony of the Greek fathers them selves, moste ancient and approved.

FULK. 6. You may well omit that which beareth no credit of antiquity. The Liturgy is not so ancient, as he whose name it beareth, the Rubrike much less. That Beza saith of Ausonius, using 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in the sense you mean, it seemeth you do not understand him. For he saith, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is never used but in good parte. So that in my judgment, Ausonius would have said rather 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 than 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in that his known Epigram, if the measure of his Pentametre verse would have borne it.

MART. 7. Thirdly, that the ancient Latin Interpreter doth commonly so translate these words through out the new Testament, that needeth no proof, neither will I stand upon it (though it be greater authority than they have any to the contrary) because the Adversaries know it and mislike it, and for that and other like pointes it is belike, that one of them saith it is the worst translation of all, whereas Beza his Master saith it is the best of all. So well they agree in judgment, the Master and the man.

FULK. 7. The Latin interpretor as it appeareth in many places, had no perfect understanding of the Greek tongue: but in the Latin it is manifest, that he was very rude, in so much that Lindanus thinketh, he was a Grecian, rather than a Latinist. Yea he hath a whole chapter thus entitled: That the Autors of the vulgar translation of the Psalter, and the new Testament, were Grecians, Nec latin satis eruditos, and not sufficiently learned in the Latin tongue. By which testimony it may be gathered, what credit is to be given to the Latin terms that he useth, differing from the Latin phrase, used by them that are learned in that tongue. I could bring example of many terms and phrases, that you yourself are ashamed to follow, which pretend so precise a translation out of the vulgar Latin. What my mislike is of that translation, and howe contrary to that which Beza saith thereof, I have opened else where to your shame. Only here I must tell you, that albeit in respect of learning, I disdain not to acknowledge myself Beza's scholar (of whom nevertheless I have learned very little) yet I would you should know, I am no strangers man, though you, and such traitors as you are, had rather be the Popes men, than true servants to the Queen of England.

MART. 8. I come to the fourth proof, which is, that all the Latin Church and the glorious Doctors thereof have always read as the vulgar Latin interpreter translateth these words, and expound the same of penance, and doing penance. To name one or two for an example, S. Augustine's place is very notable, which therefore I set down, and may be translated thus: Men do penance before Baptism, of their former sins, yet so that they be also baptized, Peter saying thus, DOE YE PENANCE, AND LET EVERY ONE BE BAPTISED. Men also do penance, if after Baptism they do so sin, that they deserve to be excommunicated and reconciled again, as in all Churches they do which be called, POENITENTES. For of such penance spake S Paul. 2. Cor. 12. 21. saying, THAT I LAMENT NOT MANY OF THEM WHICH BEFORE HAVE SINNED, AND HAVE NOT DONE PENANCE FOR THEIR VNCLEANNESSE. We have also in the Acts, that Simon Magus being baptized, was admonished by Peter TO DO PENANCE for his grievous sin. There is also in manner a daily Penance of the good and humble believers, in which we knock our breasts, saying, FORGIVE VS OUR DETTES. For these (venial and daily offenses) fasts and alms and prayers are watchfully used, and humbling our souls we cease not after a sort to do daily penance.

FULK. 8. That all the Latin Church and the glorious doctors thereof have always red as the vulgar Latin interpretor translateth: you prove by an example of S. Augustine. In which also it is manifest, that S. Augustine understandeth the phrase, not only for the exercise of public poenitentes, but also for the inward repentance of the heart. But because you challenge all the doctors of the Latin Church, for the use of this word poenitentia, I pray you consider what Tertullian writeth against Marcion, who caviled about the repenting ascribed in Scripture to God. In Graeco sono, &c. In the Greek sound the name of repentance, is made not of confession of an offense, but of changing of the mind. And in his book De Poenitentia, where he treateth even of public repentance, citing the testimony of John Baptist, he saith,

Non tacet Johannes, poenitentiam initote dicens. John holdeth not his peace, saying begin repentance.
Hilarius also showeth what Poenitentiae doth signify, when he saith, Peccati poenitentia est ab eo quod poenitendum intellexeris destitisse. Repentance of sin is to have ceased from that, which you have understood that it must be repented of. Likewise against the Novatians that deny repentance,
Cum ad Poenitentiam per quam à peccatis desistitur, when unto repentance by which men cease from sins, the doctrine of the Law, Prophets, Gospels, Apostles, exhorteth them that have sinned. And even your vulgar interpreter in Saint Mark saith Poenitemini,
for that he saith in Matthew, Agite poenitentiam, by which it is certain, that he meaneth one thing in both, namely repentance of heart, and no satisfaction of work.

MART. 9. In these words of S. Augustine it is plain that he speaketh of painful or penitential works for satisfaction of sins, that is, penance: again, that there are three kinds of the same, one before Baptism, another after Baptism for great offenses, greater and longer: the other daily for common and little venial saultes which the best men also commit in this frail nature. Again that the two former are signified and spoken of in the three places of Scripture by him alleged. Where we see, that he readeth altogether as the vulgar interpreter translateth, and expoundeth all three places of penance for sin, and so approveth that signification of the Greek word. Yea in saying that for venial sins we knock our breast, fast, give alms, and pray, and so cease not Quotidianam agere poenitentiam: what doth he mean but daily penance and satisfaction? Read also S. Cyprian (beside other places) epist. 52. num. 6. Where his citatiōs of Scripture are according to the old Latin interpreter, and his exposition according, of doing penance, and making satisfaction for sins committed. But I need not proceed further in alleging either S. Cyprian or other ancient fathers for this purpose, because the Adversaries grant it. Howbeit in what terms they grant it, and how malapertly they accuse all the ancient fathers at once for the same, it shall not be amiss here to put down their words.

FULK. 9. S. Augustine speaketh nothing of satisfaction for sins, but as I have said, of such exercises as were appointed by the Church, to testify their reap̄tāce. The occasion of all these words, was of one that was a Nouatian, who said that Peter was not baptized, whē he was received into repentance after his denial. And where he used this word Egisse poenitentiam, S. Augustine denieth, that he did open penance,

as they that we properly called poenitentes: Quod autem dicitur Petrum egisse poenitentiam. But where it is said that Peter did penance, we must beware that he be not thought so to have done it, as they do it in the Church, which are properly called Poenitentes. And who can abide this, that we should think, that the chief of the Apostles is to be numbered among such poenitents? For it reap̄ted him that he denied Christ, which thing his tears do show.
These words declare, that Agere poenitentiam with Augustine, signifieth to be inwardly repentant, as well as to do those external works, which are tokens of repentance. Also that tears, fastings, and such like, are arguments, and signs of repentance before God, and not any parte of that repentance in deed and much less any satisfaction for sins. Of this penance or repentance of S. Peter, S. Ambrose saith, Lachrymas eius lego, satisfactionem non lego, I read of his tears, I read not of his satisfaction. In that Augustine useth the words of the old interpretor, it is no matter, for he useth also his meaning. But this usage of his, proveth not the antiquity of the vulgar Latin translation, but contrari wise, it is certain that S. Augustine followed another translation, for in the text, 2. Cor. 12. where your vulgar Latin hath, Super immunditia & fornicatione & impudicitia quam gesserunt. S. Augustine readeth, Super immunditia & luxuria & fornicatione quam egerunt. That S. Cyprian useth the term Agere poenitentiam, and satisfaction also, speaking of public repentance, it shall be easily granted, but in none other sense, than I have often declared. But where you say, that his citations are according to the Latin interpretor, it is false. For Apoc. 2. your vulgar text is, Memor esto itaque vnde excideris, & age poenitentiam & prima opera fac. But Cyprians citation is, Memento vnde cecideris, & age poenitentiam, & fac priora opera. Likewise Psalm. 88. you read in your vulgar Latin, Visitabo in virga iniquitates eorum, & in verberibus peccata eorum. But Cyprian citeth thus. Visitabo in virga facinora eorum, & in flagellis delicta eorum. But that his exposition is of any other penance, than of open penance, or of any other satisfaction, than of satisfaction to the Church, your adversaries will not grant you, although they may grant you, that he ascribed too much unto such external tokens of repentance.

MART. 10. Whereas the reverend, godly, and learned Father, Edmund Campion, had objected in his book, the Protestants accusation of S. Cyprian, for the matter of penance: the good man that answereth for both Universities, saith thus to that point: But whereas Magdeburgenses (Lutheran writers of that city) complain that he depraved the doctrine of repentance, they do not feine or forge this crime against him, but utter or disclose it. For all men understand that it was too true. Neither was this Cyprians fault alone, that he wrote of repentance many thing incommodiously, and unwisely, but all the most holy fathers almost at that time, were in the same error. For whiles they desired to restrain men's manners by severe laws, they made the greatest part of repentance to consist in certain external discipline of life, which them selves prescribed. In that they punished vice severely, they were to be borne withal: but that by this means they thought to pay the pains due for sins, and to satisfy God's justice, and to procure to them selves assured impunity, remission, and justice, therein they derogated not a little from Christ's death, attributed too much to their own inventions and finally depraved repentance. Thus far the Answerer.

FULK. 10. If Campion was such a reverend, godly, and learned father among you, whose levity, treason, and ignorance in divinity, hath been so lately tried among us, we know how to esteem of the whole pack of you. Whose learning if it had been never so great, as by the time of his study in divinity, & the trade of his travailing life, since he gave him self thereto, no wise man can esteem that it was great: yet being so lately attaynted of high treason against the Prince, and the state, none that is honest, and dutiful, would have bestowed upon him the commendation of godliness. As for that which M. Whitaker hath answered against him although not in the name of both the Universities, by whom he was never authorised to be their advocate, yet so, as neither of both the Universities need be ashamed of his doing: for as much as I know he hath confuted your quarrels already, I will leave you in this matter, wholly to contend against him. Assuring you of my credit, (which I know is but small with you) that he shall be found sufficient to match with as strong and adversary as the Seminary of Reims can make out against him.

MART. 11. Mark how he accuseth the fathers in general of no less crime, than taking away from Christ the merits of his Passion, attributing it to their own penance and discipline. Which if they did, I marvel he should call them in this very place where he beginneth to charge thē with such a crime, sanctissimos patres, most holy fathers. The truth is, he might as well charge S. Paul with the same, when he saith, we shall Be the heirs of God, and coheirs with Christ, yet so, if we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him. S. Paul saith, our suffering also with Christ, is necessary to salvation: Master Whitaker's saith, it is a derogation to Christ's suffering. Christ fasted for us, therefore our fasting maketh nothing to salvation. He prayed for us, was scourged, and died for us: therefore our prayer, scourging, and emprisonment, yea and death it self for his sake, make nothing to life everlasting, and if we should think it doth, we derogate from Christ's passion. Alas, is this the divinity of England now a days? to make the simple believe that the ancient fathers and holy men of the primitive Church by their severe life and voluntary penance for their sins, and for the love of Christ, didd therein derogate from Christ's merits and passions?

FULK. 11. If the fathers at some time, by attributing too much to external discipline, were carried somewhat too far, whereby not a little was derogated from the merits of Christ's death▪ yet they are not charged directly to have impugned the dignity thereof, which, when their eyes were attentively bent upon it, they did worthily magnify and extol. That we must be conformable to the suffering of Christ, if we will be made partakers of his glory, it is the divinity that is now taught in England: but that any sufferings, or any good works of ours whatsoever, do merit any part of eternal glory, the divinity preached in England doth most justly abhor. But that the holy men of the Primitive Church, by their severe life, and hearty repentance for their sins, testified by tears, fasting, and other chastising of their flesh, for the love of Christ, did derogate from Christ's merits and passion, it is a lewd slander out of France, from the traiterous seminarie at Reims, but no part of the divinity of England, allowed by the Universities of Cambridge, and Oxford, as you would make simple men believe that it is.

MART. 12. I may not stand upon this point; neither need I. the principal matter is proved by the adversaries confession, that the holy Doctors spake, wrote, and thought of penance, and doing penance as we do, in the same terms both Greek, and Latin: and with Catholics it is always a good argument, and we desire no better proof, than this. The Protestants grant, all the ancient fathers were of our opinion, and they say it was their error. For, the first parte being true, it is madness to dispute, whether all the ancient fathers erred, or rather the new Protestants, as it is more than madness to think that Luther alone might see the truth more than a thousand Augustine's, a thousand Cyprians, a thousand Churches. Which, notwithstanding the palpable absurdity thereof, yet M. Whitaker's avoucheth it very solemnly.

FULK. 12. The confession you charge the adversaries to make, is of your own forgery, not of their concession. But for want of other proof, it was the best you could do, to fain our grant, but you are not able to show our deeds thereof in writing. As neither of the rest that the ancient fathers were all of our opinion, by the Protestants grant, that Luther might see more of himself alone, than, &c. but whatsoever M. Whitaker hath aduouched, I leave to himself to answer.

MART. 13. And yet again (that the reader may see howe they play fast and loose at their pleasure) this is the man, that when he hath given us all the fathers on our side, not only in the matter of penance, but also in invocation of Saints, and in diverse other errors, as he calleth them: the very same man (I say) in the very next leaves almost, reneweth Master Jewels old brag, that we have not one clear sentence for us of any one father within six hundred years after Christ, and again, that the same faith reigneth now in England, which these fathers professed. What faith, M. Whitaker's? not their faith concerning penance, or invocation of Saints (as yourself confess) or other such like errors of theirs, as you term them. Why are you so forgetful, or rather so impudent, to speak contraries in so little a room? Such simple answering will not serve your adversaries learned book, which you in vain go about by foolish Rhetoric to disgrace, when the world seeth you are driven to the wall, and either can say nothing, or do say that, which confuteth is self with the evident absurdity thereof.

FULK. 13. Master Whitaker is not so inconsiderate, to play fast and loose, as you are intemperate and untrue, in accusing him. Howbeit, there is no doubt, but he will meet you, and handle you, according to your virtues. But seeing you give such high commendation to Campions pamphlet, as that you call it a learned book, (wherein beside a little rank Rhetoric, more meet for a boy, that learneth to practice his figures, than for a grave Divine, to use in so serious a cause, there is nothing that any learned man may think worthy of any answer). we may well perceive what you count learning, & what be the pillars of your popish religion. The books are both in print, let the world judge of both indifferently.

MART. 14 But to leave M. Whitaker's (who is a simple companion, to sit in judgment upon all the ancient Doctors, and to condemn them of heinous error in the matter of penance). I trust the Reader seeth by the former discourse, the usual Ecclesiastical signification, and consequently both the true and false translation of the foresaid Greek words. Not that they must or may always be translated, penance, or doing penance. For in the scriptures God is said Poenitentiam agere, who cannot be said to do penance, no more than he can be said to amend his life, as the Protestants commonly translate this word. Therefore I conclude, that this word being spoken of God, in the Scriptures, is no more prejudice against our translation of doing penance, than it is against theirs, of amendment of life. Likewise when it is spoken of the reprobate and damned in hell: who as they cannot do penance properly, so much less amende their lives.

FULK. 14. Master Whitaker taketh not upon him to sit in judgment of all the Doctors, although he may note some error or other, in everyone of them, whose writings of any substance, do remain with us. But after all this brabling about poenitentiā agere, you come home, and confess, that it must not always be translated, doing of penance: because God him self after your vulgar translation, is said, agere poenitentiam, which with the Septuaginta, is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . No man could better have confuted your vain quarreling▪ than you have done yourself: for by this it is manifest, that the vulgar Interpreter, did not mean by agere poenitentiam, anymore, than we do by repentance. And therefore the best, and the most simple translation is, to use the words repent, and repentance. And the Greek word, as Tertullian telleth you, signifieth changing of mind, which may be without acknowledging of error. Although it cannot vet be properly said of God, that he changeth his mind, when he is said to repent. As likewise it is not necessary, that they which be in hell, should amend their lives, when it is said they repent. Neither do we translate the word simply, amendment of life, but show that amendment of life must necessarily follow in them that truly repent, as the Scripture teacheth us.

MART. 15. Moreover, it is purposely against penance, that they translate amiss, both in Daniel, and Esdras, whose voluntary mourning, fasting, afflicting of them selves for their own sins, and the people's, is notoriously set forth in their books. There they make the Angel say thus to Daniel. From the first day that thou didst set thine heart TO HVMBLE thyself. What is this humbling him self? can we gather any penance thereby? none at all. but if they had said according to the Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, from the first day that thou didst set thine heart TO AFFLICT thyself, we should easily conceive works of penance, and it would include Daniel's mourning, fasting from flesh, wine, and other meats, abstaining from ointments, the space of the days, mentioned in the beginning of the same chapter.

FULK. 15. The word humbling, doth as well comprehend all those exercises of fasting, and mourning, which the holy men did use, to testify their repentance, & to provoke them selves to hearty repentance for their sins, & the sins of the people, as the word afflicting. Another translation calleth it chastening, the Hebrew word signifieth to bring low, or cast down, therefore it is spoken of women, that are carnally known, which is without affliction. But when it is used of such godly exercises, it declareth for what ende they serve, namely to humble and bring low our proud rebellious nature, and to be signs of humiliation, as S. Basil saith of sackcloth and ashes, not to be by punishment, satisfaction for our sins. Your own vulgar Latin interpretor trāslateth the same word, Gen. 16 v. 19. humiliare▪ humble thyself, or submit thyself under thy mistress hand, and often times in that sense. And even in this sense of humbling▪ by signs of repentance, he useth the word humilia us, speaking of Ahab, 2. Reg. 21. v. 29. where the Hebrew word is otherwise. And Psalm 35. v. 13. the same word innethi he translateth, humiliaham, And in their sickness. I put on sackcloth▪ and humbled my soul with fasting So doth he often times, when such bodily chastisement is signified thereby. Wherefore this, as all the rest is a false and unreasonable quarrel▪ against our translation, as though by it we meant to deny the use of afflicting, or chastening the body, with fasting, mourning, and other like exercises of repentance.

MART. 16. Again, in all their Bibles of the years 1562. 1577. 1579. they make Esdras, c. 9. 5. after his exceeding great penance, say only this, About the evening sacrifice I arose up from my HEAVINESSE. neither translating the Hebrew, which is the same word that in Daniel, nor the Greek, which signifieth affliction, and humiliation.

FULK. 16. First your Greek text of Esdras, confirmeth our translation of Daniel. Secondly, I say, that by this heaviness, they mean, all that humiliation and affliction, whereof he spake before, which is easy for every man to understand, that is not blinded with malice, and what other thing is affliction, but heaviness, grief, and sorrow, whereof the holy man spake twice before, I think no wise man can tell.

MART. 17. Again, in the Prophet Malachi, (c. 3. 14.) they translate thus: Ye have said, It is but vain to serve God, and what profit is it that we have kept his commandments, and walked HVMBLY before his face? What is this same, humbly? when we say in English, he goeth humbly: we imagine or conceive no more but this, that he is an humble man, and behaveth him self humbly▪ but they know very well, the Prophet speaketh of another thing: and if it had pleased them to have translated the Hebrew word fully, and significantly, in the sense of the holy Ghost, they might have learned by conference of other places, where the same Hebrew word is used, that it signifieth such heaviness, sadness, sorowfulnes, and affliction, as men express by black mourning garments, the nature of the word importing blackness, darkness, lowering, and the like. Which is far more than walking humbly, and which is wholly suppressed by so translating. See the Psalm 34. v. 14. Ps. 37. v. 7. Ps. 41. v. 10. Where the Prophet useth many words and speeches, to express sorrowful penance: and for that which in Latin is always, contristatus, in Greek a word more significant, in Hebrew it is the same kind of word that they translate, humbly. Whereas in deed this word hath no signification of humility properly, no not of that humility I mean, which is rather to be called humiliation, or affliction, as the Greek words imply. But it signifieth properly the very manner, countenance, gesture, habit of a pensive or sorlorne man: & if they will say, that they so translate it in other places, the more is their fault, that knowing the nature of the word, they will notwithstanding suppress the force and signification thereof in any one place, and so translate it, that the reader must needs take it in another sense, and cannot possibly conceive that which the word importeth. for, to walk humbly, soundeth in all English ears, the virtue of humility, which this word doth never signify, and not humility or humiliation by affliction, which it may signify, though secondarily, and by deduction only.

FULK. 17. What a many of vain words are here spent, to make a vain cavil seem to be of some value? what the etymology of the Hebrew word is, the translators knew before you were borne. But what the word signifieth here, Pagnine is sufficient to teache both you, and them, who thus interpreateth it in obscuro, id est, obscure, id est, humiliter. In the dark, that is darkly, that is humbly. Your vulgare Latin translator calleth it, tristes, which is as far from your pretended penance, as humility. The Septuaginta translate the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which signifieth servile or servants. Benedict Arias expoundeth it, supplices, humble. And to put all out of quarrelling, the Antithesis or opposition of the proud and arrogant, in the next verse following, proveth, that in this verse, they speak of humility, which is contrary to pride, and not of the tokens of repentance, which are mourning apparel, and such like.

MART. 18. Again, what is it else but against penance and satisfaction, that they deface these usual and known words of Daniel to the king, Redime eleemosynis peccata tua, Redeem thy sins with alms: altering and translating it thus, Break off thy sins by righteousness. Firste, the Greek is against them, which is word for word according to the vulgare and common reading: Secondly, the Chaldee word which they translate, Break off, by Munsters own judgment in lexico Chaldee. signifieth rather, and more principally, to redeem. Thirdely, the other word which they translate, righteousness, in the Scriptures signifieth also, eleemosynam, as the Greke interpreaters, translate it, Dent. 6. & 24 & it is most plain in S. Matthew, where our Savior saith (Mat. 6. v. 1.) Beware you do not your justice before men▪ Which is in other Greke copies, your alms. And S. Augustine proveth it by the very text. For (saith he) as though a mā might ask, what justice? he addeth. WHEN THOVDOST AN ALMES DEEDS. He signified therefore, that alms are the works of justice. And in the Psalm they are made one, He distributed he gave to the poor, his justice remaineth forever and ever▪ Which Beza translateth, his beneficence or liberality remaineth, &c. Again, S. Jerome, a sufficient Doctor to tell the signification of the Hebrew or Chaldee words, both translateth i so, and expoundeth it so in his commentary. Moreover, the words that immediately follow in Daniel, interpret it so unto us, And thy iniquities with mercies to the pore. Lastly, Beza himself saith, that by the name of justice with the Hebrews, is also signified beneficence or beneficialnes to the pore yea, and that in this place of Daniel it is specially taken for alms. So that we see there is no impediment, neither in the Chaldee, nor Greek, why they might not have said, as the Church of God always hath said, Redeem thy sins with alms, and thy iniquities with mercies to the poor▪ but their heresy will not suffer them to speak after the Catholic manner, that alms & merciful deeds are a redemption, ransom, and satisfaction for sins.

FULK. 18. Againste popish penance and satisfaction, there is no doubt, but the translators were vehemently affected, yet in this translation they have used no prejudice against repentance, and the true fruits thereof, but rather more straightly have urged the same. For first, whereas in the vulgare Latin text there is no word of repenting from sins, or forsaking of sins, our translator using the term of breaking off his sins, signifieth that all alms, and other apparent good deeds without repentance and breaking off the cause of the former sinful life, are in vain and unprofitable. Secondly, where the vulgare translator useth the word of redeeming, or buying out, which might bring the King into vain security, to think he might satisfy for his sins, without repentance, by giving of alms, which is a small penance for a King: our translators tell him, that, he must break off his sins, before anything that he doth be acceptable to God. Thirdly, whereas the vulgare interpretour requireth of him nothing but alms, and mercy to the poor, which was a very easy thing for him to perform: our translators enioine him righteousness, which comprehendeth all virtues, and is a thousand fold harder penance for such a mighty monarch, than giving of alms, and that to poor folks which he should never feel. Fourthly, the words are plain for our translation: for pherak the Chaldee verb signifieth as properly and as principally to dissolve or break off, as, to deliver or redeem. Neither is Munsters judgment otherwise, although he give the other signification first, which is a miserable argument, to prove, that it signifieth rather, and more principallye to redeem. But if any signification were more principal than other, it were more reason to say, that pherak signifieth rather & more principally to break or dissolve, because the word signifieth so in the Hebrew tongue, from whence the Chaldee is derived. And indeed delyuering, is a kind of dissolving or breaking from him, to whom he was before addicte or bound. So that the verb helpeth you nothing, but rather maketh more against you. The other word, although very seldom by synecdoche, it be taken for alms, yet every boy almost in Cambridge knoweth, that it signifieth properly and principally, universal justice, or all righteousness: therefore the Chaldee text is plain for our translation, and enforced for yours of alms. Being against all reason, that the Prophet should exhort the Kyng to giving alms, before he had exhorted him to repentance, and forsakyng of his sins. Beside that, it is contrary to the whole scope of the scriptures, to teache any other satisfaction or redemption from sin, than the death and passion of Christ. But where you tell us of S. Jerome's translation, it were somewhat worth, if you could show it. The vulgare Latin text we may not grant you to be S. Jerome's, as for his commentary, teacheth not the word of redeeming, which is the principal word in controversy. And indeed it is a very absurd kind of speech, to say, redeem thy sins, or deliver thy sins, for pherak signifieth none otherwise to redeem, than to deliver, whereas, if he had meant, as you think, he should have said rather, redeem thy soul from sins. Christ himself the author of our redemption, is not said to have redeemed our sins with his blood, but to have redeemed us from our sins by his blood.

MART. 19. And what a miserable humor is it in these cases, to sly as far as they can from the ancient received speech of holy Scripture, that hath so many years sounded in all faithful ears, and to invent new terms and phrases, when the original text both Greke and Hebrew fauoreth the one as much or more, than the other▪ as, that they choose to say in the Epistle to Titus (where the Apostle exceedingly exhorteth to good works) maintain good works, and show forth good works, rather than according to the ancient Latin translation, bonis operibus praeesse, to be chief and principal in doing good works, which is the very true and usual signification of the Greek word, and implieth a virtuous emulation among good men, who shall do moste good works, or excel in that kind. But they that look to be saved by faith only, no marvel if neither their doings, nor translations tēd to any such excellency.

FULK. 19. What a miserable humor is it, when the truth is plainly revealed, by knowledge of the tongs, which was hidden from many of the ancient fathers, to delight rather in error which is old, than in truth which is newly discovered? The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in the epistle to Titus we translate also to excel, and it may signify, either to show forth, to maintain, or to excel. And therefore your wrangling is vain and without reason. For that Christian men ought with all diligent labor to excel in good works, it is always acknowledged of us, although they must not look to be saved by their works no nor by their faith only, if their faith be not fruitful of good works. Such collections as these, and much better, it were no hard matter to make a great number against you, to prove that you are enemies to faith, to repentance, to good works, & to God himself.

CHAP. XIIII.

Heretical translation against the holy SACRAMENTS, namely BAPTISME and CONFESSION.

Martin.

AN other sequel of their only faith is, that the Sacraments also help nothing toward our salvation, and therefore they partly take them clean away, partly deprive them of all grace, virtue, and efficacy, making thē poor and beggarly elements, either worse, or no better than those of the old law.

Fulke.

THat the Sacraments help nothing toward our salvation, is another of Martins slanders, no assertion of ours. For seeing we hold that the Sacraments are seals of God's promises, to confirm our faith, by which we are justified before him, how can we affirm, that they help nothing to salvation? But this is the property of hers and slanderers, when they have nothing of truth to charge their adversaries, then they either invent that which was never said or done by them, or else they violently draw out of their sayings or doings by depraving them some color of matter to serve for a show of their slanders. So doth our wrangler in this place after a flat lie solemnly aduouched, against us, of that we say, the Sacraments give no grace, Ex opere operato, of the work wrought, he frameth his spiders web, first that we deprive them, of all grace, virtue, and efficacy. Because we do not include grace, virtue, and efficacy, within the external Elementes, or the ministry of man about them, but ascribe the same to the mighty working of God's spirit in his chosen children, which worketh all his gifts in all men according to the good pleasure of his own will. Secondly that we make the Sacraments poor and beggarly Elements. And thirdly either worse or no better than those of the old law. The spiritual matter in deed of the Sacraments of both the Testaments we confess to be Jesus Christ of equal power unto salvation of his people living under both the states: but the more abundant grace, and truth, according to the revelation of Christ in the flesh, we acknowledge to be testified, and exhibited in our Sacraments than was in theirs that lived under the law.

MART. 2. For this purpose Beza is not content to speak as the Apostle doth, (Ro. 4. v. 11.) that circumcision was a seal of the justice of faith, but because he thinketh that, to small a term for the dignity of circumcision, as himself confesseth, he gladly auoideth it (I use his own words) and for the Nowne putteth the Verbe, so dissolutely & presumptuously, that the English Bezites themselves here also dare not follow him in translation, though in opinion they agree. The cause of his willful translation he declareth in his Annotations upon the same place, to wit, the dignity of circumcision, equal with any Sacrament of the New Testament. His words be these. What (saith he) could be spoken more magnifical of any Sacrament? therefore they that put a real difference between the Sacraments of the Old Testament and ours, never seem to have known how far Christ's office extendeth. Which he saith, not to magnify the old, but to disgrace the new.

FULK. 2. There was never man that had such an artificial conjecture of men's purposes as you pretend yourself to have, which not only where there is likelihood to fasten a conjecture upon, but also when all likelyhoods are against you, yet can so confidently pronounce of every man's purpose. Well let the purpose go, which is known best to God, and next to them that will judge of the man according to charity and good reason. You say Beza is not content to speak as the Apostle doth, that circumcision was a seal of the justice of faith. Yes verily, his desire is to express that which the Apostle saith to the full. The name of seal therefore he auoydeth not, as you falsely slander him, but for want of a convenient Latin word to express the Apostles Greek word, he is content to use circumloquution by the verb, and saith, Abraham received the sign of circumcision, which should seal up, or by seal confirm the justice of faith, &c. yet are not you ashamed moste impudently to say he refused the term of Seal sigillum, and for sigillum hath used quod obsignaret. Whereas the word that he saith he refused, is Signaculum.

Signaculi nomen quod vetus interpres & Erasmus vsurpauit libens refugi, partim quod non sit admodum vsitatum, partim quod non satis videatur illam vim obsignationis declarare. The term signaculum which the old interpretor and Erasmus hath used, I have willingly refused: partly because it is no very usual word, partly because it seemeth not sufficiently to declare that virtue or efficacy of sealing
. You see therefore what word he auoydeth, & for what cause, & that vour eyes were not matches, or else they were daseled with a mist of malice, whē you red that he avoided Sigillum, and placed quod obsignaret for sigillum. The word sigillum as he useth not, so doth he make no mention of it, I think because it being a diminutiue of signum, and taken sometimes for a little image, vnde sigillares, &c. it is not proper nor full to express the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . That he maketh circumcision equal unto the Sacraments of the new Testament, I have shown before, that it is in matter, substance, and ende, which he that confesseth not (as Beza saith) seemeth never to have known howe far the office of Christ extendeth: but that he hath any purpose to disgrace the Sacraments of the New Testament instituted by Christ him self, in a more clear dispensation of grace and truth, you affirm with the same credit by which you said he put quod obsignaret for sigillum.

MART. 3. Which is also the cause why not only he, but the English Bibles (for commonly they join hands and agree together) to make no difference between John's Baptism and Christ's, translate thus concerning certain that had not yet received the holy Ghost: Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, unto John's Baptism. Which Beza in a long discourse proveth to be spoken of John's doctrine, and not of his baptism in water. As though it were said, what doctrine then do ye profess? and they said, John's. Whereas in deed the question is this, and ought thus to be translated, In what then or wherein were you Baptized? And they said, in John's Baptism. As who should say, we have received John's Baptism, but not the holy Ghost as yet. And therefore it followeth immediately, then they were baptized in the name of Jesus, and after imposition of hands the Holy Ghost came vpō thē. Whereby is plainly gathered, that being baptized with John's baptism before, & yet of necessity baptized afterward with Christ's baptism also, there must needs be a great difference between the one baptism & the other, John's being insufficient. And that this is the deduction which troubleth these Bezites, and maketh them translate accordingly, Beza (as commonly▪ still he uttereth his grief) telleth us in plain words thus. It is not necessary, that wheresoever there is mention of John's Baptism, we should think it to be the very ceremony of Baptism. Therefore they that gather John's Baptism to have been diverse from Christ's, because these a little after are said to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, have no sure foundation. Lo▪ how of purpose he translateth & expoundeth it John's doctrine, not John's Baptism, to take away the foundation of this Catholic conclusion, that his Baptism differeth and is far inferior to Christ's.

FULK. 3. And is John's Baptism now made a Sacrament of the old law? was John the Baptist a minister of the law, or of the Gospel? Our Savior Christ, is sufficient to teach us that the law and the Prophets prophesied until John: but frō the days of John the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence. But if you will make John's Baptism a Sacrament of the New Testament, and yet differing frō the Baptism of Christ, then you make two Baptismes of the new Testament, contrary to the Nicene Creed, and Christ him self, who was baptized for us, baptized with the worse. But concerning that place Acts the 19. which hath troubled so many interpreters with the obscurity thereof, or rather with a prejudicate opinion of a difference in the Baptism of John and of Christ, I am neither of Beza's opinion, nor yet of our translators, for the understanding and translation of that place. Neither do I think that mention is made of any second baptism, the avoiding whereof, hath bred diverse forced interpretations: but that S. Paul enstructeth those Disciples that knew not the grace of the holy Ghost, that they which heard John's preaching to the people, that they should believe in Christ Jesus, which was coming after him, were also baptized in the name of Jesus, Christ, who had granted those visible graces of his holy spirit, to be bestowed upon them that believed, by imposition of the Apostles hands. Thus therefore I am persuaded those verses are to be translated. But Paul said, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe in him, that cometh after him, that is in Jesus: & they which heard him, were baptized into y e name of our Lord Jesus. And after Paul had laid his hands upon, &c. The argument of difference thereof grounded vpō this place, is nothing worth▪ where the baptism of John is confirmed by imposition of hands, rather than disgraced by reiteration, which giveth strength to the error of the Donatists, and Anabaptists, for rebaptization. Whereas it cannot be proved, that any, which were once baptized by John, were ever baptized again. But the contrary may easily be gathered: for seeing our Savior Christ baptized none him self, it shall follow that the Apostles were either not baptized at all, or else baptized only with John's baptism. And where there is express mention of John's Disciples, that came unto Christ, to become his Disciples▪ there is no mention of any other baptism than they had already received.

MART. 4. But doth the Greek lead him, or force him to this translation, In quid? unto what? First him self confesseth in the very same place, the contrary, that the Greek phrase is often used in the other sense, wherein▪ or, wherewith, as it is in the vulgar Latin, and Erasmus: but that in his judgment it doth not so signify here, and therefore he refuseth it. Yet in the very next verse almost, where it is said by the same Greek phrase, that they were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, there both he and his, so translate is as we do, and not, unto the name of Christ. Is it not plain, that all is voluntary, and at their pleasure? For (I beseech them) if it be a right translation, baptized in the name of Jesus: why is it not right, baptized in the baptism of John? Is there any difference in the Greek? none. Where then? in their commentaries and imaginations only, against which we oppose and set both the text and the commentaries of all the fathers.

FULK. 4. The Greek doth allow him so to translate, and to be Baptized in the name of Jesus, and into the name of Jesus is all one: as in the name of the Father, the Son, and the holy Ghost, or into the name of the Father, the Son, and the holy Ghost, is all one. But if Beza that hath discovered the truth in so many places, did not see it in this one text, as neither you nor any of the fathers which have written upon it, who are not many: he is rather to be pardoned of all reasonable men, than to be railed upon by such one who in learning is no more like him, than a Goose to a Swan in singing.

MART. 5. But no marvel if they disgrace the baptism of Christ, when they are bold also to take it away altogether: interpreating this Scripture, Unless a man be borne again of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God, which a man would think were plain enough to prove, that water in baptism is necessary: interpreating (I say) this Scripture, Of water, and the spirit, thus: of water, that is, the Spirit: making water to be nothing else in this place but the Spirit allegorically, and not material water. As though our savior had said to Nicodemus, Unless a man be borne of water, I mean, of the spirit, he cannot enter, &c. According to this moste impudent exposition of plain Scriptures, Calvin translateth also as impudently for the same purpose in the epistle to Titus, making the Apostle to say, that God poured the water of regeneration upon us abundantly, that is, the holy Ghost. And lease we should not understand his meaning herein, he telleth vt in his commentary upon this place, that whē the apostle saith, water poured out abundātly, he speaketh not of material water, but of the holy ghost. Now indeed the apostle saith not, that water was poured upon us, but the holy ghost. neither doth the Apostle make water and the holy ghost all one, but most plainly distinguisheth them, saying that God of his mercy hath saved us by the laver of regeneration and renovation of the holy Ghost, whom he hath poured upon us abundantly. See how plainly the Apostle speaketh both of the material water, or washing of Baptism, & of the effect thereof, which is the holy Ghost poured upon us. Calvin taketh away water clean, and will have him speak only of the holy Ghost, which Flaccus Illyricus the Lutheran him self wondereth at, that any man should be so bold, and calleth it plain sacrilege against the efficacy of the Sacraments.

FULK. 5. The Sacrament of Baptism, howe far we are from disgracing, or taking it away altogether, when we affirm that the grace of God's spirit, is not so tied unto it, but he may work regeneration without it, in them that by necessity are deprived of it, let all men of reason and indifferency, judge. Our translation of John. 3. v. 5. being such, as he can find nothing to quarrel against it, he beginneth a new controversy of our interpretation, by which he might bring in five hundred places of scripture, in which we differ from them in exposition. And a great absurdity he thinketh he hath found out, in that we expound the water and spirit to signify one thing: as though in Math. 3. v. 11. the holy ghost, and fire, are not put both for one thing: and he may as well in the one place, urge the element of fire in the baptism of Christ, as by this place prove the necessity of baptism in water. And yet we take not away the sacrament of baptism, or the water, the external matter thereof, which in other places is expressly commanded, when we say it is not spoken of in this text, which is of the thing signified in baptism, rather than of baptism, as in John. 6. our savior Christ speaketh in like terms of the thing represented in the sacrament of his supper, not of the sacrament it self. The error of Calvin's translation and exposition of Titus 3 v. 5. we have before confessed, neither doth any of our translations follow him, and yet his error is no heresy, while he ascribeth wholly to the holy ghost, that which properly is his, but yet of the apostle is figuratively ascribed unto the outward element, by which he worketh.

MART. 6. And if we should here accuse the English translators also, that translate it thus, by the fountain of the regeneration of the holy Ghost, WHICH he shed on us, &c. making it indifferent, either which fountain, or, which holy Ghost he shed, &c. they would answer by and by that the Greek also is indifferent: but if a man should ask the further, whether the holy Ghost may be said to be shed, or rather a fountain of water, they must needs confess, not the holy Ghost, but water: and consequently that they translating, which he shed, would have it meant of the fountain of water, and so they agree just with Calvin's translation, and leave Beza, who in his translation referreth it only to the holy Ghost, as we do: but in his commentary playeth the Heretike as Calvin doth.

FULK. 6. When Aristides could be accused of no crime, he was by his envious enemies accused of justice. Even so this man, who is wont to prescribe us a rule, to leave that in ambiguity, which in the Greek is ambiguous, now blameth us for translating so, as either Calvin's, or Beza's sense may stand with it. And all be it in all other places he is content to make us Beza's scholars: yet here because Calvin hath the worse parte, he will enforce us to leave Beza, and stick to Calvin. Suche a force hath malice when it is settled in man's heart, that it carrieth him oftentimes headlong against him self. But seeing the holy Ghost, as the nearest antecedent is placed next before the relative, why must we needs confess, not the holy Ghost, but water to be shed upon us? Is any man so brutish, to believe the bold surmises, what said I, surmises? nay impudent, and contentious affirmations of this blind Bayard.

MART. 7. Of the Sacrament of penance I have spoken before, concerning that part specially which is satisfaction: here I will only add of Confession, that to avoid this term (namely in such a place where the reader might easily gather Sacramental confession) they translate thus, Acknowledge your faults one to another. Iac. 5. It is said a little before, if any be diseased, let him bring in Priests, &c. And then it followeth, Confess your faults, &c. But they to make all sure, for, Confess, say, Acknowledge: and for Priests, Elders. What mean they by this? If this acknowledging of faults one to another before death be indifferently to be made to all men, why do they appoint in their Cōmunion-book (as it seemeth out of this place) that the sick person shall make a special confession to the Minister, and he shall absolve him in the very same form of absolution that Catholic Priests use in the Sacrament of Confession. Again, if this acknowledging of faults be specially to be made to the Minister or Priest, why translate they it not by the word Confessing and confession, as well as by, Acknowledging? and why is not this confessiō a Sacrament, where them selves acknowledge forgiveness of sins by the Minister? These contradictions and repugnance of their practice and translation, if they can wittily and wisely reconcile, they may perhaps in this point satisfy the reader. But whether the Apostle speak here of Sacramental confession or no, sincere translators should not have fled from the proper and most usual word of confession or confessing, consonant both to the Greek and Latin, and indifferent to whatsoever the holy Ghost might mean, as this word, acknowledge, is not.

FULK. 7. Of the word of penance, and therevpō to wring in satisfaction, we have heard more than enough: but that penance is a Sacrament, we have heard never a word to prove it. But what say we against confession? Forsooth James 5. we translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 acknowledge yourselves. Why sir? doth acknowledging signify any other thing than confessing? you want then nothing else, but the sound of confession, which among the ignorant would help you little, which term your Popish acknowledging rather shrifte than confession. It is marvel then that you blame us not, because we say not, shriue yourselves one to another. A miserable▪ Sacrament, that hath need of the sound of a word to help it, to be gathered. But how I pray you, should the reader gather your auricular shrifte, or Popish confession if the word confess yourselves were used by us? I ween because the Priests are called in a little before. It is more than mough, if you might gain your Sacrament of anealing by their coming in. But shrifte cometh to late after extreme unction. Well admit, the Apostle forgotte the order, and placed it after, which should come before, must we needs have Priestly confession proved out of that place? doth not S James say, confess yourselves one to another, as he saith, pray one for another? Then it followeth, that the Lay man must shriue the Prieste, as well as the Prieste must shriue the Laye man. And the Priest must confess him self to the people, as well as the people must pray for the Prieste. But you have an objection out of the Communion book, to prove confession to be a Sacrament, which appointeth, that the sick person shall make a special confession to the minister, and he to absolve him, &c. Will you never leave this shameless cogging, and forging of matters against us? The Communion book appointeth a special confessiō only for them that feel their conscience troubled with any weighty matter, that they may receive counsel, and comfort by the minister, who hath authority in the name of God, to remit sins, not only to them that be sick, but also to them that be whole: and daily doth pronounce the absolution, to them that acknowledge & confess their sins humbly before God. But hereof it followeth not, that this confession is a Sacrament, for by preaching, the people that believe, are absolved frō their sins, by the ministry of the Preacher: yet is not preaching a Sacrament. A Sacrament must have an outward element, or bodily creature, to represent the grace of remission of sins, as in Baptism, and in the Lord's supper. But where you conclude, that sincere translators should not have fled the proper and moste usual word of confession, you speak your pleasure, for the word of acknowledging, is more proper and usual in the English tongue, than is the word of confessing. And if you can prove any Sacrament out of that text, behold, you have the Greek and Latin untouched and the English answereable to both: make your Syllogism out of that place to prove Popish shrift when you dare.

CHAP. XV.

Heretical translation against the Sacrament of HOLY ORDERS, and for the MARIAGE OF PRIESTS and VOTARIES.

Martin.

AGAINST the Sacrament of Orders what can they do more in translation, than in all their Bibles to take away the name of Priest and Priesthood of the New Testament altogether, and for it to say, Elder and Eldership? Whereof I treated more at large in another place of this book. Here I add these few observations, that both for Priests and Deacons, which are two holy orders in the Catholic Church, they translate, Ministers, to commend that new degree devised by themselves. As when they say in all their Bibles, Fear the Lord with all thy soul, and honor his ministers. In the Greek it is plain thus, and honor his Priests, as the word always signifieth, and in the very next sentence themselves so translate, Fear the Lord and honor the Priests. But they would needs borowe one of these places for the honor of Ministers. As also in the Epistle to Timothy, where S. Paul talketh of Deacons, and nameth them twice: they in the first place translate thus, Likewise must the Ministers be honest, &c. And a little after Let the Deacons be the husbands of one wife, Loe, the Greek word being one, and the Apostle speaking of one Ecclesiastical order of Deacons, and Beza so interpreating it in both places, yet our English translators have allowed the first place to their Ministers, and the second to Deacons. and so (because Bishops also went before) they have found us out their three orders, Bishops, Ministers, and Deacons. Alas poor souls, that can have no place in Scripture for their Ministers, but by making the Apostle speak three things for two.

Fulke.

FOR the names of Priest, and Elder, we have spoken heretofore sufficiently, as also for the name of Minister, which is used for the same that Elder and Prieste, although the word signify more generally. That the word Ministers is put for Priests, I take it rather to be an oversight of the first translator, whom the rest followed, because that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 cometh immediately after, than any purpose against the order of Priest, or to dignify the name of Ministers. For, seeing Syrachs son speaketh of the Priests and Ministers of the awe, his saying can make nothing to or froe, for the names of the Ministers, Priests or Elders of the New Testament. That some translations in 1. Tim. 3. for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 render Ministers, it is because they supposed the Greek word to be taken there, in the general sense, as it is in many other places, not to make three degrees of two, as you do fondly cavil. For the orders of Bishops, Elders, or as you cal them Priests, and as they be commonly called Priests and Ministers is all one in authority of ministering the word & the Sacraments. The degree of Bishops, as they are taken, to be a superior order unto Elders or Priests, is for government and discipline, specially committed unto them, not in authority of handling the word and the sacraments.

MART. 2. There are in the Scripture that are called Ministers in infinite places, and that by three Greek words, commonly: but that is a large signification of minister, attributed to all that minister, wait, serve, or attend to do any service ecclesiastical or temporal, sacred or profane. If the world be restrained to any one peculiar service or function, as one of the Greek words is, then doth it signify Deacons only. Which if they know not, or will not believe me, let them see Beza himself in his Annotations upon Saint Matthew, who protesteth, that in his translation, he useth always the word, Minister, in the general signification: and Diaconus, in the special and peculiar Ecclesiastical function of Deacons. So that yet we cannot understand, neither can they tell us, whence their peculiar calling and function of Minister cometh, which is their second degree under a Bishop, and is placed in steed of Priests.

FULK. 2. What the general word of Minister signifieth, howe it is taken, both generally and specally, we are not so ignorant, that we need be taught of you: And yet all learned men are not agreed, when the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is restrained to the Minister of the poor, and when it signifieth generally, all the officers in the Church. As for the name of Minister, by which, Elders or Priests are commonly called among us, I have even now, and diverse times before shown, upon what occasion it was taken up, so to be applied, which yet generally signifieth all that serve in the Church, and common wealth also.

MART. 3. Again, what can be more against the dignity of sacred orders and Ecclesiastical degrees, than to make them profane and secular by their terms and translations? For this purpose, as they translate, Elders and Eldershippe, for Priests, and Priesthode, so do they most impudently term S. Peter and S. John, lay men: they say for Apostle, Embassador and Messenger: John 13. v. 16. and for Apostles of the Churches, Messengers of the same: 2. Cor. 8. for Bishops, overseers, Act. 20. Why my masters, doth idiota signify, a lay man? Suppose a lay man be as wise and learned as any other, is he idiota? or that one of your Ministers be as unlearned & ignorant as any shepherd, is he not idiota? so then idiota is neither Clearke nor lay man, but every simple and ignorant man. They that spake with miraculous tongs in the primitive church, were they not lay men many of them? yet the Apostle plainly distinguisheth them from idiota. So that this is more ignorantly or willfully translated, than Neophytus, a young scholar in all your bibles.

FULK. 3. There can be no greater wrangling, nor more unprofitable, than about words and terms. But why, I pray you, should the terms of Elder and Eldershippe be more profane and secular in English, than they be in Greek, yea, than the names of ancients and seniors, which you yourselves in your translation use for the same office? will you never be ashamed of these vanities, which turn always to your own reproach? yet do they (say you) most impudently term S. Peter and John lay men. And do not you dishonor them as much, to say in your translation, they were of the vulgare sort? what signifieth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , a lay man, but one of the vulgare sort, or common people? Again, were they of that Clergy, whereof Annas and Caiaphas were high Priests, or were they not as perfectely distinct, from that sacrificing Priesthode, as any lay man at this day is from the Christian clergy? yet you go on whether the fury of your malice doth carry you, and say that Idiota, is neither Cleark, nor lay man, but every simple and ignorant mā. If it be so, then reform your translation, as well in this place of the Act. 4. as in 1. Cor. 14. where you cal idiota of the vulgar sort, or the vulgar, and pluck yourself first by the nose, for false translating, before you find fault with us. Again, if the high Priests did take the Apostles for unlearned and lay men, what impudency is it, to say, that we term them so? And touching your signification of idiota, although the Priests knew, that they had not been brought up in study of learning, as they themselves were: yet, hearing their bold & wise answer, they could not take them for simple and ignorant men, therefore it followeth, that they meant they were none of their clergy, rather than that they were ignorant, and foolish, for simple in the good parte, they would not acknowledge them to be. As for the term, Ambassador, and Messenger, for the Greek word, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Io 13 v. 16. may well be used in that place, seeing it is like he speaketh, as generally of the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , as he doeth of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which is a servant. The servant is not greater than his Lord, nor the embassadour than he that sent him. And for the messengers of the Churches, whē those are understood by the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which are sent on message from the Churches, and not those that are sent by Christ, to preach unto the Churches, no wise man can blame the translation, Acts. 20. where 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 are of us translated, overseers, of you Bishops, yet in your note, you say, or Priests, as though the word may signify, Priests, which all men of skill do know to signify overseers, although the term be given to them, which before are called, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Elders or Priests. But it proceedeth of great ignorance, that Neophytus is translated in all our Bibles, a young Scholar. O what knowledge have we learned of you, to translate Neophytus, a Neophyte. For before, we did take Neophytus, to signify one that is newly planted, or lately ngraffed, and by a Metaphor, one that is a young and new scholar in the mysteries of Christian religion, But because your Pope useth to make boys and unlearned young men Bishops, and great Prelates in your Church, you cannot abide, that a young scholar should by Saint Paul's rule be excluded from a Bishopric, and therefore you mock the reader with a Neophyte. We know, that in the ancient Church they were called Neophyti, which were lately baptized: but yet in the same sense, because they were young scholars, and therefore look in the Homilies that are entitled, ad Neophytos, and you shall see, they are directed and spente almost or altogether in teaching the principles of Christian religion plainly, wherein they were but young scholars, not yet perfectly instructed.

MART. 4. Now for changing the name Apostle into Messenger, though Beza do so also in the foresaid places, yet in deed he controuleth both him self, and you, in other places, saying of the same word, Apostles: A man may say in Latin, Legates, but we have gladly kept the Greek word (Apostle) as many other words familiar to the Church of Christ. And not only of the principal Apostles, but also of the other Disciples, he both translateth, and interpreteth, in his commentary, that they are notable Apostles. and he proveth that all Ministers of the word (as he termeth them) are and may be so called. And for your Overseers, he saith, Episcopos, and not, Superintendentes. Which he might as well have said, as you, Overseers. But to say the truth, though he be too too profane, yet he doth much more keep and use the Ecclesiastical received terms, than you do, often protesting it, and as it were glorying therein, against Castaleon especially. As, when he saith, Presbyterum, where you say Elder: Diaconum, where you say, Minister, and so forth. Where if you tell me that howsoever he translate, he meaneth as profanely as you, I believe you, and therefore you shall go together, like Master, like Scholars, all false and profane translators. for, this Beza (who sometime so gladly keepeth the name of Apostle) yet calleth Epaphroditus legatum Philippensium, Philip. 2. verse 15. Whereupon the English Bezites translate, your Messenger, for, your Apostle. As if S. Augustine who was our Apostle, should be called, our Messenger.

FULK. 4. You cannot leave your old bias, in wresting men's sayings far beyond their meaning. Therefore you allege against us, the saying of Beza, for the term of Apostles, to be retained, where mention is made of the Apostles of Christ, not only those that are specially so called, but also all the ministers of the word. But what is this, to term them by the honorable name of Apostles, which are not sent by God, but by men, about some civil or Ecclesiastical business. For both he & we cal Epaphroditus, the Messenger, and not the Apostle of the Philippians, because he was sent by the Philippians unto Paul, and not by Christ unto them. As for that Augustine which was sent by Gregory, might better be called Gregory's Apostle, than our Apostle, for he was not sent by us, but to us, not immediately from God, as an Apostle should, but from Gregory, and by Gregory. Touching the terms of Bishops, Elders, Ministers, Priests, &c. enough hath been said already. Our translators have done that, which they thought best to be done in our language, as Beza did in the Latin tongue.

MART. 5. As also, when you translate of S. Matthias the Apostle, that he was by a common consent counted with the eleven Apostles: Act. 1. v. 26. what is it else, but to make only a popular election of Ecclesiastical degrees, as Beza in his annotations, would have us to understand, saying, that nothing was done here peculiarly by Peter, as one of more excellent dignity than the rest, but in common by the voices of the whole Church. though in another place upon this election, he noteth Peter to be the chief or Corypheus. And as for the Greek word in this place, if partiality of the cause would suffer him to consider of it, he should find, that the proper signification thereof in this phrase of speech, is, as the vulgar Latin Interpreter, Erasmus, and Valla, (all which he rejecteth) translate it, to wit, He was numbered, or, counted with the eleven Apostles, without all respect of common consent, or not consent, as you also in your other Bibles do translate.

FULK. 5. The election of Matthias to be an Apostle, was extraordinarily, and therefore permitted to the lot: the manner whereof, as it is not to be drawn into example, so the proper election cannot be proved thereby: yet hath both Beza, and the English translator, faithfully expressed the Greek word, which S. Luke there useth: although, neither Erasmus, nor Valla, beside your vulgar Interpretor, did consider it. Neither doth that common consent, in accepting Mathias for an Apostle, whom the lotte had designed, more prove a popular election, or derogate from the singularity of Peter, than that by common consent of the whole brotherhood, two were chosen and set up, that the Apostleshippe should be laid upon one of them.

MART. 6. Which diversity may proceed of the diversity of opinions among you. For we understand by Master Whitegifts books against the Puritans, that he and his fellows deny this popular election, and give preeminence, superiority, and difference in this case to Peter, and to Ecclesiastical Prelates▪ and therefore he proveth at large the use and Ecclesiastical signification of the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , not to be the giving of voices in popular elections, but to be the Ecclesiastical imposing of hands upon persons taken to the Churches ministry. Which he saith very truly, and needeth the less here to be spoken of, specially being touched elsewhere in this book.

FULK. 6. The diversity of the translation, proceedeth of this, that the former translators did not observe the nature of the Greek word, which Beza hath considered more absolutely, than any interpretors before him Although it is not unlike, that Chrysostom did well acknowledge it, when speaking of this election, he useth these words.

I am & illud considera, quam & Petrus agit omnia ex communi discipu orum sententia, nihil authoritate sua, nihil cum imperio. Now also consider this thing, how Peter doth all things by common consent of the Disciples, nothing of his own authority, nothing with rule or commandment. And as for the popular election, if you had red those books, you make mention of, you might perceive, that neither of both parts, allow a mere popular election.
And that Master Whitgift, doth not so much contend, what form of election was used in the time of the Apostles, and of the Primitive Church, as whether it be necessary that such form of election as then was practiced, should in all ages of the Church, and in all places, be of necessity continued, and observed.

MART. 7. One thing only we would know, why they that plead so earnestly against their brethren the Puritans, about the signification of this word, pretending herein only the primitive custom of imposition of hands, in making their Ministers, why (I say) them selves translate not this word accordingly, but altogether as the Puritans, thus: When they had ordained them Elders by election in every Church. Act. 14. verse 23. For if the Greek word signify here the people's giving of voices (as Beza forceth it only that way, out of Tully, and the popular custom of old Athens) then the other signification of imposing hands is gone, which Mayster Whitgift defendeth, and the popular election is brought in, which he refelleth: and so by their translation they have in my opinion ouershotte themselves, and given advantage to their brotherly Adversaries. Unless in deed they translate as they think, because in deed they think as heretically as the other, but yet because their state of Eccles asticall regiment is otherwise, they must maintain that also in their writings, howsoever they translate. For an example, They all agree to translate Elder for Priest: and Master Whitaker's telleth us a fresh in the name of them all, that there are no Priests now in the Church of Christ, that is, (as he interpreteth himself) This name Prieste is never in the New Testament peculiarly applied to the Ministers of the Gospel, this is their doctrine. But what is their prastise in the regiment of their Church? clean contrary. For in the order of the communion book, where it is appointed what the Minister shall do, it is indifferently said, Then shall the Prieste do or say this and that: and, Then shall the Minister, &c. Whereby it is evident that they make Priest a proper and peculiar calling applied to their Ministers, and so their practice is contrary to their teaching and doctrine.

FULK. 7. I have satisfied your desire before, if you list to know, our translation must be, as near as it can, to express the true signification of the original words, & so it is, in that place of the Acts. 14. v. 23. which being granted by them, that deny the necessity of at form of election to continue always, giveth no more advantage to the adversaries, than they would take out of the signification of the Greek word, how soever it were translated. Your example of Master Whitaker's denying the name of Prieste to be applied to the ministers of the Gospel, to prove that we must maintain our Ecclesiastical state, how soever we translate, is very fond and ridiculous: as also the contradiction that you would make between him and the service book, touching the name of Prieste there used and allowed. Master Whitaker's writing in Latin, speaketh of the Latin term, Sacerdos, the Communion book of the English word Priest, is not this a goodly net for a fool to dance naked in, and think that nobody can see him.

MART. 8. Now concerning imposition, or laying on of hands, in making their Ministers, (which the Puritans also are forced to allow by other words of Scripture, howsoever they dispute and iangle against 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 ) none of them all make more of it, than of the like Judaical ceremony in the old Law, not acknowledging that there is any grace given withal, though the Apostle say there is, in express terms, but they will answer this text (as they are wont) with a favorable translation, turning grace, into gift. As, when the Apostle saith thus, Neglect not THE GRACE that is in thee, which is given thee by prophecy, with impositiō of the hands of Priesthood, they translate, Neglect not the GIFT. and Beza most impudently, for, by prophecy, translateth, to prophecy: making that only to be this gift and withal adding this goodly exposition, that he had the gift of prophecy, or preaching before, and now by imposition of hands was chosen only to execute that function. But because it might be objected that the Apostle saith, Which was given thee with the imposition of hands, or, (as he speaketh in another place) by imposition of hands, making this imposition of hands, an instrumental cause of giving this grace, he saith that it did only confirm the grace or gift before given.

FULK. 8. Though we find that by, or with imposition of hands, many rare and extraordinary gifts of prophecy of tongues, and such like, were given in the Apostles time, yet we find nowhere, that grace is ordinarily given by that ceremony, used always in the Church, for ordination of the ministers thereof. But whether there be, or not, our translation of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , into gift, is true and proper to the word. For albeit the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , be taken, not only for the favor of God, but also for his gracious gifts: yet 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is never taken in the Scripture, but for a free gift, or a gift of his grace. That Beza referreth the preposition 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , to the ende of the gift, he hath the nature of the word to bear him out, which may well abide that sense: and yet he doth not reject the other common interpretation by prophecy, that by appointment of the holy Ghost, uttered by some of the Prophets. But where you wrangle about the gift of prophecy, as though he were utterly void thereof, before he received imposition of hands: I know not what you mean. Woulde you have us think, that he was ordained Prieste, or Elder, or to any office of the Church, without competent gifts, meet to discharge his office? That the gift of prophecy as well as of speaking with tongues, might be given by and with imposition of hands, Beza doubteth not. But it is out of doubt, that to an office, none was chosen or admitted by the Apostle and the rest of the Presbyterie of Ephesus, but such as had sufficient gifts to answer that office.

MART. 9. Thus it is evident that, though the Apostle speak never so plain for the dignity of holy Orders, that it giveth grace, and consequently is a Sacrament, they pervert all to the contrary, making it a bare ceremony, suppressing the word grace, which is much more significant to express the Greek word, than gift is, because it is not every gift, but a gracious gift, or a gift proceeding of marvelous and mere grace. At when it is said, To you it is given not only to believe, but also to suffer for him. The Greek word signifieth this much, To you this grace is given, &c. So when God gave unto S. Paul all that sailed with him, this Greek word is used, because it was a great grace or gracious gift given unto him. When S. Paul pardoned the incestuous person before due time, it is expressed by this word, because it was a grace (as Theodorete calleth it) given unto him. And therefore also the alms of the Corinthians, 1. Cor. 16. v. 3. are called, their grace, which the Protestants translate, liberality, neglecting altogether the true force and signification of the Greek words.

FULK. 9. Here is no evidence at all, that the order of Priesthoode is a Sacrament, or giveth grace, but that God, by the ceremony of laying on of hands, did give wonderful and extraordinary gifts, of tongues, and prophesying, in the beginning and first planting of the Church. But, that grace should always follow that ceremony, there is no proof to be made out of the holy Scriptures. And experience showeth, that he which was void of gifts▪ before he was ordered Priest, is as very an asse and Dogbolte, as he was before, for any increase of grace or gracious gifts: although he have authority committed unto him, if he be ordained in the Church, though unworthily, & with great sin both of him that ordaineth, and of him that is ordained. But we suppress the word grace (you say) because charisma signifieth, at least, a gracious gift. See how the bare sound of terms delighteth you, that you might therein seek a shadow for your singlesolde sacrament of popish orders. The word signifieth, a free or gracious gift, and so will every man understand it, which knoweth, that it is given by God. As also in all places, where mention is made of God's gifts, we must understand, that it proceedeth freely from him, as a token of his favor and grace. But that the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , do the always import the grace or favor of God, none either wise or learned will affirm, neither doth your vulgar interpretor express the word of grace in those places that you bring for example, Phi. 1. v. 29. he saith plainly, donatum est, it is given, and so yourselves translate it. Why, I pray you do you suppres the word grace, or why do you thus trifle against us? When Saint Paul appealed to Caesar, Acts. 25. affyrming, that no man could give him into the hands of his adversaries, he useth the same word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . So, when Festus telleth Agrippa, that he answered the Jews, that it was not the custom of the Romaines, to give any man to destruction, &c▪ Saint Luke useth the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , were not he a mad translator▪ or interpretor either, that would expound this word of the grace of God, which is spoken of the favor of men? So, when the Apostle, 1. Cor. 16. calleth the alms of the Corinthians, their grace, is it not better englishe to say, their liberality? for although their liberality proceeded of God's gift, yet the Apostle adding the pronoun 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , meaneth the free gift of the Corinthians, not the grace of God.

MART. 10. But concerning the sacrament of orders, as in the first to Timothy, so in the seconde also, they suppress the word Grace, and call it barely and coldely, Gift, saying: I put thee in remembrance, that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee, by the putting on of my hands. Where if they had said, the grace of God, which is in thee, by the putting on of my hands: then were it plain, that S. Paul by the ceremony of imposing hands upon Timothy, in making him Priest, or Bishop, gave him grace: and so it should be a very Sacrament of holy Orders▪ for avoiding whereof, they translate otherwise, or else let them give us another reason thereof, specially the Greek word much more signifying grace, than a bare gift, as is declared.

FULK. 10. These colewoorts were sodden enough once before that they need not be set on again. The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 if you find it an hundredth times, signifieth no more▪ but a free gift, or a gift that is freely givē, even as the English word gift doth: whereof the Proverb is, what is so free as gift? Wherefore if we had said the grace of God we had translated amiss, & otherwise than the Greek word doth signify. But where you trifle in your terms of a bare gift, and we call it barely and coldly a gift, you do nothing but bewray your own shame. Can the gift of God be called a bare gift? or doth he speak barely and coldly, that saith the gift of God? Doth the Apostle Ephes. 2. speaking of our salvation, and your vulgar interpretor, and you yourselves speak of a bare gift, and call it barely and coldly, the gift of God? When you say, you are saved▪ through faith (and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God) not of works &c. See you not that while you seek to rase our skin, you strike yourself to the heart? Be wiser therefore, and spare your own credit: find no fault with that which you cannot amend▪ & which if it were a fault, you yourselves commit as much as we.

MART. 11. The more to prosane this sacred order, whereunto continency & single life hath been always annexed in the new Testament for the honor and reverence of the functions thereunto belonging, to profan the same (I say) and to make it mere laicall and popular, they will have all to be married men, yea those that have vowed the contrary: and it is a great credit among them, for our Priests Apostates to take wives. This they would deduce from the Apostles custom, but by most false and impudent translation: making S. Paul say thus as of his own wife and the other Apostles wives, Have not we power to lead about a wife being a sister, as well as the rest of the Apostles? Whereas the Apostle saith nothing else but, a woman a sister, that is, a Christian woman, meaning such holy women as followed Christ, and the Apostles▪ to find and maintain them of their substance. So doth S. Jerome interpret it, & S. Augustine, both directly proving that it cannot be translated, wife, but, womā: and the Greek fathers most expressly. And as for the Greek word, if they say it is ambiguous▪ S. Augustine telleth them that as the Apostle hath put it down with all the circumstances, there is no ambiguiti at all that might deceive any man. Yea let us set a part the circumstances, and consider the Greek word alone in it self, and Beza will tell us in other places, that it signifieth a woman rather than a wife: reprehending Erasmus for translating it, wife, because there is no circumstance annexed why it should so signify: thereby declaring that of it self it signifieth, woman, and therefore much more when the circumstance also (as S. Augustine saith) maketh it certain, that so it doth signify.

FULK. 11. If matrimony be a holy Sacrament, as you say, & an holy ordinance of God as we both confess, how should the sacred order of Priesthood be profaned thereby. That cōtinence and single life hath always been annexed to the Ecclesiastical functions in the New Testament, it is so manifest an untruth, that I will not stand to confute it. As where you say, that we make the order mere laycal & popular, that we will have all men to be married▪ yea those that have vowed the contrary, these be most impudent assertions. Though it be free for all men to marry, yet no man is willed, otherwise than he shall find cause in him self. And for Priests that come from you, it is more credit to marry, than out of marriage to live incontinently: otherwise they are of as great credit that be unmarried, as they that be married. What the custom of the Apostles was for having wives & keeping company with thē, not only the Scripture of the Apostles, but also Clemens Alexandrinus a most ancient writer is witness for us, & against your impudent assertion, alleging even this text of 1. Cor. 9. To prove that they did lead their wives about with them.

P r quas etiam in Gynecaum, &c. By means of whom the doctrine of our Lord might enter into the closet of womē, without any reprehension, or evil suspicion.
By which our translation is proved to be good & true, as I have more at large declared before. Cap. 1. Sect. 18. Nether is there here any new matter, which is not there sufficiently answered.

MART. 12. Wherefore great must the impudency of Beza be (and of the English B zites) that knowing this and protesting it else where in his Annotations, yet here translateth, soro em vxorem, a sister a wife, and saying after his lordly manner, I doubted not so to translate it, disputing and reasoning against all other interpreters both ancient & later, for the contrary, yea and aff ming that S. Paul himself, did foolishly, if he spake there, of other rich womē. Such a fancy he hath to make the Apostles not only married man, but that they carried about their wives with them, & that they were the Apostles wives, (for so he translateth it Act. 1. v. 14 ) that returned with them after our Lord's ascension to Jerusalem, and continued together in prayer til the holy Ghost came upon them. Whereas S. Luke there speaketh so evidently of the other holy and faithful women which are famous in the Gospel (as the Mary's and other) that the English Bezites them selves dare not here follow his translation. For I beseech you M. Beza (to turn my talk unto you a little) is there any circumstance or particle here added why i should be translated wives? none. then by your own reason before alleged it should rather be trs̄lated, women▪ Again, did Erasmus translate well, saying, It is good for a man not to touch a wife? 1▪ Cor. 7. v. 1. No, say you, reprehending this translation, because it dehorteth from marriage. If not, show your commissiō why you may translate in the foresaid places, wife, & wives, at your pleasure: the Greek being all one, both where you will not in any wise have it translated, wife, and also where you will have it so translated in any wise.

FULK. 12. Nay great must be the impudency of the Papists, that imagine the Apostles, which had wives of their own, did leave them behind them, and lead strange women about with them into all partes of the world. The first that invented that gloss of cōtinent women, such as followed Christ, was Tertullian, the Montanist in his book of Monogamy, which he wrote against the Church, condemning second marriage, & reproving the Latin translation of his time as it seemeth, which in this text. 1. Cor. 9. used the term of vxor, by the ambiguity of the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , saying that if the Apostle had spoken of matrimony, he would have understood this of wives, but seeing he speaketh De victuaria exhibitione, of the exhibition toward his living, he understandeth it of such women as followed Christ. Than the which distinction nothing can be more absurd: for speaking of exhibition toward his living, the Apostle showeth, that he might have lawfully charged the Church with finding, not only of himself, but also of his wife, as the other Apostles did. Again if rich womē did follow the Apostles, ministering to thē of their substance, as they followed our Savior, this was no burden, but an easement unto the Church, which the Apostle would not have abstained frō as a thing burdenous to the Church of Corinth. Cōcerning the other place Act. 1. v. 14. although perhaps it be not necessary, to translate wives, yet it is necessary to understand wives. For to answer you in M. Beza's name, who telleth you, that it was meet, as also Erasmus thinketh that their wives should be co firmed, who partly were to be companions of their travail and peregrinatiō, partly to tarie patiētly at home, while their husbands were about the Lord's business, and therefore their wives also were present. Again, what a shameful absurdity were it, to think that the Apostles would tarie in a close house, so long together with other women than their wives, and shut out their own wives, which must needs have been subject to great offense and obloquy. And what devilish malice have you against the Apostles wives, that you cannot abide, that they should join with their husbands in prayer and supplication, and be made partakers of the holy Ghost with them, as well as other women, which were also married women, Mary the wife of Cleophas, Joanna the wife of Chuza, and other holy women, the mothers or wives of holy men? Will you say the Apostles had no wives? Peters wives mother will testify against you. Will you say she was forsaken by Peter? the story of his martiredome, if it be true, affirmeth, that she continued with him to his dying day: will you say, he had no matrimonial company with hir? his daughter Petronilla will bear witness against you, so young, that she was desired in marriage by Flaccus the Comes. Touching the place, 1. Corin. 7. where Erasmus translateth, vxorem, I have answered already, the circumstance of the place, doth argue, that it is spoken generally of continence, & not of abstinence in marriage only. And who is such a novice in the greek tongue, that he knoweth not, that the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signifieth, a wife or woman, as the circumstance of the place requireth, where it is used?

MART. 13. Again, to this purpose they make Saint Paul say, as to his wife, I beseech thee also faithful yokfellow, Phil. 4. v. 3. for in English what doth it else sound, but man and wife? but that S. Paul should h ere mean his wife, moste of the Greek fathers count it ridiculous and foolish, S. Chrysostom, Theodorete, Oecumenius, Theophilactus. Beza and Calvin both mislike it, translating also in the masculine gender, S. Paul himself saith the contrary, that he had no wife, 1. Cor. 7. And as for Clemens Alexandrinus, who allegeth it for Paul's wife, Eusebius plainly insinua eth, and Nicephorus expressly saith, that he did it 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , by the way of contention and disputation, whiles he arnestly wrote against them that oppugned matrimony.

FULK. 13. The Greek word being 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , signifieth a fellow or companion in yoke, they have not therefore translated amiss, when they say yoke fellow▪ which signifieth, fellow in any yoke whatsoever. If it sound, man and wife in English, what matter is that? for so it soundeth in Greek. Men must not follow the sound of words only, but examine the matter. And great probability there is, that he speaketh there of his wife, as Clemens Alexandrinus thinketh, neither doth S. Paul himself say precisely, he had no wife, 1. Cor. 7. but that he lived without the use of a wife, which might be, his wife consenting to remain at hilippi. That the later writers mislike the judgment of Clemens, and specially that fabulous historiā Nicephor{us}, it derogateth nothing to his credit▪ nor to the likelihood of the matter. That Theophy lact saith, the adjective should be of the foeminine gender, he is not to be credited above Clemens Alexandrinus, who knew the purity of the Greke tongue, as well as he. But whether it be to be understood of his wife or no, we leave it indifferent, and translate according to the Greek word, without prejudice of either opinion, which kind of translation, at other times you do highly commend.

MART. 14. Again, for the marriage of Priests, and of all sorts of men indifferently, they translate the Apostle thus: wedlock is honorable among all men. Where one falsificatiō is, that they say, among all men, and Beza, inter quosuis, & in the margent, in omni hominū ordine, in every order or condition of mē, & in his Annotation he raileth, to make this translation good whereas the greek is as indifferent to signify, that marriage is honorable, by all means, in all respects, wholly, thoroughly, altogether. So doth, not only Erasmus, but also the Greek fathers expound it, namely Theophilact, whose words in the Greek be very significāt▪ but too long here to trouble the reader with thē. Not in part saith he, honorable, and in part not: but wholly, throughout, by all means honorable and undefiled, in all ages, in all times. Therefore, to restrain it in trāslatiō to persons only (though it may also very well be understood of all persons that have no impedimē to the contrary) that is to translate falsely.

FULK. 14. I have answered already, that seeing the apostle threateneth the judgment of God against fornicators and adulterers, the moste apt signification of the words 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , is among all mē. Although that which you would have, comprehēdeath all persons, as well as all other things, means, respects, &c. If any persons have an impediment to the contrary, such as God's word doth alowe, their marriage by this text, is not authorised. But Priests have no impediment, whē they are, by the word of God to be chosen, as well of mar ed men, as of any other, 1. Tim. 5. Tit. 1. neither can it be any falsification, to translate so, as both the words in the Greek tongue do signify, and the reason of the place doth require. Theophilacts words, you say, be long, and so it seemeth, they be for your purpose, therefore you take but a piece in the middes, cutting off, both the beginning, and the end that make against you.

In all (saith he) not in men of riper age, and not in young men also, but in all mē, or by all means, and in all times, not in affliction truly, & in quietness not also. not in this part precious, and honorable, and in that part, otherwise, but the whole, and through all parts, let it be precious. Here heretics are made to blush, that slander marriage. For behold, he calleth marriage precious, matrimony honorable, which keepeth a man in the virtue of temperance. And afterward. If matrimony be permitted, the fornicators & adulterers are justly punished.
Who is so blind, that he will not see Theophilact refer it to the persons, as well as to all parts of it? At least wise, you should have remembered, that Theophilact, being a Bishop of the Greke church, where their Priests have been, and yet are suffered to be married men, would not write anything here, against the marriage of Priests. Neither doth Oecumenius exclude the persons, whē he extolleth the perfection of marriage, but rather doth comprehend them. Chrysostom doth plainly refer it to the persons, insomuch, that he joineth it in expositiō with that text, H ue peace with all men.

MART. 15. An other, and the like falsificatiō in this same short sentence, is, that they make it an affirmative speech, by adding, is: whereas the apostles words be these, Marriage honorable in all, & the bed undefiled. Which is rather an exhortation, as if he should say, Let marriage be honorable, and the bed undefiled. How honorable? that (as S. Peter speaketh, 1. Pet. c. 3.) non cōuerse with their wives according to knowledge, im arting honor to them, as to the weaker vessels: that is, as S. P. also explica eth it▪ 1. Th. c. 4. possessing every mā his vessel in sanctification and honor, not in the passion or lust of concupiscence, as the Gentiles, &c. Loe what honorable marriage is, to wit, when the husband useth the wife honourably and honestly in all respects, not beastly and filihily according to all kind of lust and concupiscence. And that the Apostle here exhorteth to this honorable usage of wedlock, rather than affirmeth anything▪ it is most probable, both by that which goeth before, and that which immediately followeth, all which are exhortations. and les the Protestants give us a reason out of the Greek text, if they can, why they translate the words following by way of exhortation, Let your conuers tion be without covetousness: and not these words also in like manner, Let marriage be honorable in all. Certain it is, that the Greek in both is all one phrase and speech, and Beza is much troubled to find a good reason against Erasmus, who thinketh it is an exhortation. The sentence then being ambiguous and doubtful at the least, what ioly fellows are these that will so restrain it in translation, that it cannot be taken in the other sense, & not rather leave it indifferently, as in the Greke and vulgar latin it is, least the sense of the holy ghost be not that, or not only that, which they translate.

FULK. 15. I have already shown, that the Verbe of the indicatiue mood, is here to be understood, because the verb which followeth in the same verse, is of the indicatiue mood. Again, the participle 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 ▪ as Beza telleth you, declareth the first words to be uttered affirmatively: Marriage is honorable among all men, and the bed undefiled, but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. Moreover, Chrysostom, Theodorete, Theophilact, Oecumeneus, do all prove out of this place, the permission and lawfulness of marriage to all men, which could not be except they understood the Apostles words affirmatively. That married men must live temperately with their wives, it is also true, but not the principal purpose of the Apostle here, to exhort thereunto, but rather to dissuade men from fornication and adultery, because marriage is honorable and undefiled in all sortes of men. The reason you require, Beza hath given you, and I have reported it. Neither is the sentence ambiguous, neither hath it been so taken, but of late days, in despite of holy matrimony, which though you cannot deny in all men, yet you deface the honor thereof, as the Manichees, and other Heretics did, when you affirm that the sacred order of priesthood is profaned thereby. They be your own words before, sect. 11. convincing you to be a maintainer of the doctrine of devils. 1. Tim 4.

MART. 16. Moreover it is against the profession of continency in Priests, and others, that they translate our Saviors words of single life, and the unmarried state, thus: All men cannot receive this saying: as though it were impossible to live continent. Where Christ said not so, that all men cannot, but, All men do not receive this saying. But of this I have spoken more in the chapter of free will. Here I add only concerning the words following, that they translate them not exactly, nor perhaps with a sincere meaning▪ for if there be chastity in marriage, as well as in the single life, as Paphnutius the confessor most truly said, and they are wont much to allege it, then their translation doth nothing express our Saviors meaning, whē they say, There are some chaste, which have made them selves chaste, for the kingdom of heavens sake▪ for a man might say, all do so that live chastely in matrimony. but our Savior speaketh of them that are impotent and unable to generation, called* Eunuchs, or gelded men, and that in three diverse kinds: some that have that infirmity or maim from their birth, othersome that are gelded afterward by men, and other that geld themselves for the kingdom of heaven, not by cutting of those partes, which were an horrible mortal sin, but having those partes, as other men have▪ yet geld themselves (for so is the Greek) and make them selves unable to generation. Which how it can be but by voluntary profession, promise, and v w of perpetual continency, which they may never break, let the Protestants tell us. Christ then as it is most evident, speaketh of gelded men, either c rporally, or spiritually, (which are all such as profess perpetual continency:) and they tell us of some that were borne chaste, and some that were made chaste by men, and some that make them selves chaste: most foolish and false translation of the Greek words. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 ▪ and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉

FULK. 16. Concerning the former part of this matter, Math. 19. v. 11. we have answered sufficiently, in the chapter of free will, but here is a new cavil. Because chastity is also in marriage, as in single life, our translators do not well to express the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , by, chaste, and have made chaste. I confess they should more properly have said, gelded men, or gelded them selves, or else continent, and made continent. Although they mean none other by the word chaste, which they use. And touching your question, howe men may lawfully geld them selves, but by voluntary purpose of continency, which they may not break: I answer, that we deny not, but that such as be assured they have the gift of continency, may profess to keep it, and after such profession or promise, made to God, they sin if they break it. But if any have rashly vowed that which they are not able to keep, they have sinned in vowing, and cannot keep their vow by abstinence from marriage, except they abstain also from all filthiness out of marriage: for such, we hold with Epiphanius, and Saint Jerome, that immoderate aduauncer of virginity, that it is better to marry, than out of marriage to live incontinently.

MART. 17. The Bezites here, are blameless, who translate it word for word. Eunuchs: but they are more to blame in another place, where in derogation of the privilege and dignity of Priests, they translate thus: The Priests lips should preserve knowledge, and they should seek the Law at his mouth. where in the Hebrew and Greek, it is as plain as possibly can be spoken, The Priests lips shall keep knowledge, and they shall seek the Law at his mouth. Which is a marvelous privilege given to the Priests of the old Law, for true determination of matters in controversy, & right expounding of the Law, as we read more fully, Deutero. 17. Where they are commanded under pain of death, to stand to the Priests judgment, which in this place God by the Prophet Malachi, calleth his covenant with Levi, and that he will have it to stand, to wit, in the new Testament, where Peter hath such privilege for him, and his successors, that his faith shall not fail, where the holy Ghost is President in the Church of Bishops and Priests. All which these Heretics would deface and defeat, by translating the words otherwise, than the holy Ghost hath spoken them.

FULK. 17. The verb in deed, which the Prophet Malachi useth, is of the future temps. But who knoweth not, that the Hebrews lack the potential mode? and therefore they do very often express it, by the future temps of the indicatiue mode. Which if you should always translate by the future indicatiue, you should make many fair promises to them that are sharply rebuked. But the circumstance of the place, doth plainly declare, that the Priests of that time, had broken the covenant made with Levi, concerning keeping of the law. Yea the very words following express the same. But you have departed out of the way, and have caused many to fall against the law. You have made void the covenant of Levi, saith the Lord of Hosts. By which words, it is manifest, that the Prophet before, spake of that knowledge of the law, which the Priest ought to have, & not which the Priests always had: for certain it is, that many of them were ignorant, yea sometimes all: the high Priest was often̄ an Idolater. And who condemned Christ, & his Gospel, but the high Priests? The authority that was given to the Priests, in case of controversy, was limited within the bounds of God's law, from which if they declined▪ no man was bound to obey them. For who was bound to obey Uriah the high Priest, preferring the idolatrous altar of Damasco, before the true altar of the Lord? or those devilish tyrants, Menclaus, Alcimus, and such other, as occupied the Priests rooms in the time of the Maccabees, or Annas and Caiaphas, in the yme of Christ. Peter then having none other privilege for him and his successors, than Aaron had, he and his successors might fall and be deceived: although Christ prayed that his faith should not fail, as he prayed for all the Apostles, and for all their successors, yea, for all believers, that they might be sanctified in the truth: yet it were madness, to say, that none of them could err. But whensoever you will go about to prove this privilege, out of those words of our Savior Christ, make your Syllogism, and let us have no more brabling. Our translation in that place of Malachi, is more true, than you are able to impugn, for those words are rather a commandment, what the Priests lips should do, not a promise or assurance, that they always did so.

MART. 18. And when the Prophet addeth immediately the cause of this singular prerogative of the Priest, quia angelus Domini exercituum est, because he is the Angel of the Lord of hosts, which is also a wonderful dignity, so to be called: they after their cold manner of profane translation, say, because he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts. So do they in the next chapter, call S. John the Baptist, messenger: where the Scripture no doubt speaketh more honourably of him, as being Christ's precursor, than of a messenger, which is a term for posts also and lackies. The Scripture I say, speaketh thus of S. John, Behold I send mine Angel before thee: and our Savior in the Gospel, Mat. 11. Luc. 7. telling the people the wonderful dignisies of S. John, & that he was more than a Prophet, citeth this place, & giveth this reason, For this is he of whom it is written, Behold I send mine Angel before thee. Which Saint Jerome calleth meritorum 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , the increase and augmenting of John's merits or privileges, that in Malachi he is called an Angel: and Saint Gregori saith, he which came to bring tidings of Christ him self, was worthily called an Angel, that in his very name there might be a dignity, and all the fathers, and all wit and reason conceive a great excellencye in this name: only our profane Protestants that think of all divine things, and persons, most basely, translate accordingly, even in the foresaid Gospel also, making our Savior to say, that John was more than a Prophet, because he was a Messenger. Yea, where our Savior him self is called, Angelus Testamenti, the Angel of the Testament, there they translate, the messenger of the covenant.

FULK. 18. It is not safe, to translate always the messenger of God, by the name of an Angel, which is commonly taken to signify a spirit, not a bodily creature: therefore our translators thought good to express the signification of the Hebrew, and Greek word in English, and to use the term of Messenger, as the word doth signify: nothing derogating from the dignity of the persons, or office of them, of whom it is uttered, which consisteth in the addition following of God, of the Lord, of the Church. For the name of Angel, of it self, is no name of dignity, seeing there be Angels of the devil, and of darkness, as well as of God, & of light. And Isidorus Clarius interpreteth the word in this place of Malachi, Legatus, the Ambassador, or Messenger. It is not therefore of any profane mind, that for Angel, we say Messenger. Your own vulgar Interpretor, Agg. 1. v. 13. translateth Maleach Jehovah, nuncius domini, the Lord's Messenger, and so diverse times where mention is made of God's Messengers. This is therefore a vain contention about terms, when the matter is not in question. That the name of Angels soundeth more honorably as Jerome and other think, it is no rule to bind translators, but expounders may as occasion is offered observe it.

MART. 19. If S. Jerome in all these places had translated, nuntium, then the English were messenger: but translating it, angelum, and the Church & all antiquity so reading and expounding it as a term of more dignity and excellency, what mean these base companions to disgrace the very eloquence of the Scripture, which by such terms of amplification would speak more significantly and emphatically? what mean they I say) that so inuey against Castaleo for his profaneness, them selves to say, for Angel, Messenger, for Apostle, Legate, or Ambassador, and the like? Are they afraid, lest by calling mē Angels, it would be mistaken, as though they were Angels in deed by nature? then S. Paul spake dangerously, when he said to the Galatians, As God's Angel you received me, as Christ Jesus. But to proceed.

FULK. 19. The very eloquence of the Scripture, is best expressed, when the words are translated as they signify in the original tongue. And although some words, be appropried to certain callings, which it is not convenient to turn into the general signification: yet is neither the Hebrew, nor the Greek word, that signifieth Messengers in the Scripture, so restrained, but that it is used, for all Messengers indifferently, of God and men yea of God, and the devil. Wherefore there is no cause why we should use the Greek word Angel, rather than the English word Messenger. And where you ask, whether we be afraid, lest by calling men Angels, it would be mistaken, as though they were Angels in nature: we may well fear, lest the ignorant & unlearned, might so be deceived, when Bristow, so great a Doctor▪ & writer among you, is so fondly disguised, that he mistaketh the Angel of the Church of Philadelphia, for an Angel by nature, and alledgeth, that which God promiseth, that his enemies the Jews shall worship before his feet, to prove the invocation and worship of heavenly Angels. Neither spake Paul dangerously, when he said the Galathiās received him as an Angel of God as Christ Jesus. For the word Angel in the Greek tongue signifieth a messenger: it was easy to understand, that the messenger or embassadour of a Prince is received as the Prince him self, without confounding the persons, of the Prince and his messenger.

MART. 20. It is much for the authority and dignity of God's Priests, that they do bind and loose, and execute all Ecclesiastical functiō •• in the person and power of Christ, whose ministers they are. So Saint Paul saith, 2. Cor. 2. v. 10. that when he pardoned or released the penance of the incestuous Corinthian, he did it in the person of Christ. That is (as Saint Ambrose expoundeth it) in the name of Christ, in his steed, as his Vicar and deputy. But they translate it, In the sight of Christ. Where it is evident they cannot pretend the Greek, and if there be ambiguity in the Greek, the Apostle him self taketh it away interpreting himself in the very same case, when he excommunicateth the said incestuous person, saying, that he doth it, in the name and with the virtue of our Lord Jesus Christ: so expounding what he meaneth also in this place.

FVL. 20. That the Bishops, Elders, or Priests of gods Church do bind and lose as in the person and power of Christ, in his name, & by his authority is acknowledged by us: But when we translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , in the sight of Christ, we respect, what the Greek phrase doth more properly require, yea, what the Hebrew phrase mipenei, doth signify, whereunto it is like, that the Apostle doth allude. Otherwise, Beza in his annotations vpō the place, doth not mislike the sense, and interpretation of Ambrose, whereof he maketh mention, but preferreth the other, as more simple and agreeable to the meaning of the Apostle in that place, and to the nature of the Greke and Hebrew phrase.

MART. 21. And it may be, that for some such purpose, they change the ancient and accustomed reading in these words of S. Matthew, Ex te enim exiet dux qui regat populū meum Israel: translating thus, Out of thee shall come the gouemour that shall feed my people Israel. for, that shall rule my people Israel. This is certain that it is a false translation, because the Prophets words. Mich. 5. (cited by Saint Matthew) both in Hebrew and Greek▪ signify only, a ruler or Governor, and not a Pastor or feeder. Therefore it is either a great over sight, which i a small matter in comparison of the least corruption: or rather, because they do the like Act. 20. v. 28. it is done, to suppres the signification of ecclesiastical power & government, that concurreth with feeding, first in Christ, and from him in his Apostles and Past rs of the Church, both which are here signified in this one Greek word, to wit, that Christ our Savior shall rule and feed, (Ps. 2. Apoc. 2. v. 27.) yea he shall rule in a rod of iron, and from him, Peter and the rest, by his commission given in the same word feed & rule my sheep. Io. 21. yea and that in a rod of iron, as when he stroke Ananias and Sapphîra to corporal death, as his successors do the like offenders to spiritual destruction (unless they repent) by the terrible rod of excommunication. This is imported in the double significatiō of the Greek word, which they to diminish Ecclesiastical authority, they translate, feed, rather than, rule, or govern.

FULK. 21. That we should not mean anything against the government of Christ, whom we wish & desire from our hearts, that he alone might reign, and his servants under him, he himself is judge, to whom in this case we do boldly appeal. But let us see, how we may be charged with false translation. The Hebrew and greek (say you) do signify only a ruler or governor, Mich. 5. And do not we translate a governor or captain, which may answer there the Hebrew of the Prophet, or the Greek of the Septuaginta, or of the Evangelist. The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 that we translate, sometime to govern, sometime to feed, is not in the Prophet, but in the Evangelist, and signifieth properly to feed as a shepherd, and metaphorically to govern. What cause have you here to cry out, false translation, and to oppose the Hebrew word of the Prophet, which is fully satisfied in the word governor? And the Greek word, which the Evangelist useth, hath his proper signification in some translations, in other, that which is figurative, neither doth the one exclude the other. But feeding doth import governing. But it seemeth you would have rule, without feeding, that you are so zealous for government. The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Act. 20. in some translations, is rendered. to rule, in other, to feed. The more proper is, to feed, yet the greek word will bear the other also. But feeding as a sheephearde doeth his sheep, comprehendeth both. The same word John. 21. our Savior Christ limiteth rather to feeding as y e Evangelist reporteth his words using 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 twice & 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 once. For by lording & ruling Peter should not so well testify his love towards Christ, as by painful feeding. And there your own vulgar interpreter translateth Pasce, and yourselves feed, though in the margent you would fain pray aide of the Greek to establish your popes tyrannical rule. Yea you will give him a rod of iron which is the scepter of Christ, yea an army of soldiers to subdue Ireland, and to wrest it out of the Queen of Englandes dominion that is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 feed and rule my sheep in your secret meaning, and for that purpose you bring in the miraculous striking of Ananias and Sapheira for their hypocrisy, pretending that you mean but spiritual destruction by the rod of excommunication, which howe terrible it is, when it is duly exercised by thē that have authority, we need not learn of you. The other text Psalm the 2. Apoc. 2. v. 27. we translate always rule. And your vulgar interpretor. Pet. 5. translateth the same word pascite feed you the church of God, &c. and else where diverse times. Doth he so diminish ecclesiastical authority? &c.

MART. 22. To the diminishing of this Ecclesiastical authority, in the later ende of the reign of king Henry the ight, and during the reign of king Edward the sixth, the only translation of their English Bibles, was, submit yourselves unto all manner ordinance of man whether it be VNTO THE KING, AS TO THE CHIEFE HEAD. 1. Pet. 2. Where in this Queens time, the later translators cannot find those words now in the Greek, but do translate thus, To the king as having preeminence: or to the king as the Superior. Why so? because then the King had first taken upon him this name of Supreme head of the Church, and therefore they flattered both him and his son, till their heresy was planted, making the holy Scripture to say that the king was, the chief head, which is all one with, supreme head: but now being better advised in that point (by Calvin I suppose and the Lutherans of Magdeburge, who do jointly inveigh against such title, and Calvin against that by name, which was first given to king Henry the eight) & because they may be bolder with a Queen than with a king, and because now they think their kingdom is well established, therefore they suppress this title in their later trāslations, & would take it frō her altogether if they could, to advance their own Ecclesiastical jurisdiction, without any dependence of the Queens supreme government of their church, which in their conscience (if they be true Calvinists, or Lutherans, or mix of both) they do and must mislike.

FULK. 22. Touching this text 1. Pet. 2. I have answered before y t the word signifieth him that excelleth, and therefore it is no corruption to translate it y e chief. For the name of supreme head in y e sense which Calvin & other abroad did mislike it, it was never allowed, nor by authority granted to the kings Henry and Edward but in the same sense it is now granted to Queen Elizabeth whom we acknowledge to have the same authority in causes ecclesiastical which her father and brother kings before her had & exercised to God's glory. But as Ste en Gardener understood y e title in conference with Bucer at Ratisbone we do utterly abhor it and so did all godly men always, that a king should have absolute power to do in religion what he will. In what sense the popish clergy of England, being cast in the premunire did first of all ascribe it to the king in their submission, look you unto it: we think it was rather of flattery, than of duty, wisdom, or religion. As for the ecclesiastical government which the scripture prescribeth may well stand, which craveth the aide of a Christian Prince, which is y e Queens authority in causes ecclesiastical.

MART. 23. But howsoever that he, let them justify their translation, or confess their fault. And as for the kings supremacy over the Church, if they make any doubt, let thē read S. Ignatius words, who was in the Apostles time, uen when S. Peter gave the foresaid admonition of subjection to the king, and knew very well how far his preeminence extended, and therefore saith plainly in notorious words, that, we must first honor God, then the Bishop, and then the king. Because in all things nothing is comparable to God, & in the Church, nothing greater then y e Bishop, who is consecrated to God for the salvation of the whole world, and among magistrates & temp rall rulers, none is like the king. See his other words immediately following, where he preferreth the Bishops office before the kings & all other things of price among men.

FULK. 23. Howsoever those Epistles be truly or untruly ascribed to Ignatius which here I will not dispute there is nothing said in this that you cite of the Bishops preeminence above the king, but we acknowledge it to be true of y e meanest priest of God's Church in matters properly belonging to his office which yet doth not exempt him from subjection to his prince, but that in causes ecclsiasticall also he is to be commanded by his prince to do his duty, and to be punished by him, if he do otherwise.

MART. 24. But in the former sentence of S. Peter, though they have altered their translation about the kings headshippe, yet there is one corruption remaining still in these words, Submit yourselves VNTO AL MANER ORDINANCE OF MAN. Whereas in the Greek it is word for word as in the old vulgar Latin translation, omni humanae creaturae, and as we have translated, to every human creature: meaning temporal Princes & Magistrates, as is plain by the exemplification immediately following, of king, and dukes, and other sent or appointed by him. But they in favor of their temporal statutes, acts of Parliament, Proclamations and Injunctions made against the Catholic religion, do translate all with one consent, Submit vour selves to all manner ordinance of man. Doth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signify ordinance? or is it all one to be obedient to everyone of our Princes, and to all manner ordinance of the said Princes?

FULK. 24. The word ordinance you do violently draw to every statute, proclamation or injunction, which is understood of the ordinance or appointment of magistrates in what form soever they be created: or at the worst cannot be referred but only to such decrees as are not contrary to the word of God. The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 we know signifieth a creature or creation, which speeches being not usual in our English tongue to signify magistrates: our interpretors have expressed the same by the word ordinance. You yourselves translate that which is in Greek 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in Latin Creaturae mark 16. of the creation and in the same sense do our translators use the word of ordinance.

MART. 25. A strange case and much to be considered, how they wring and wrest the holy scriptures this way and that way and every way to serve their heretical proceedings. For when the question is of due obedience to Ecclesiastical canons, and decrees of the Church and general Councils, where the holy Ghost by Christ's promise is assistant, and whereof it is said, if he hear not the Church, let him be unto thee as an heathen and Publican: and, He that heareth you, heareth me: he that despiseth you despiseth me: there they cry out aloud & odiously term all such ordinances▪ men's traditions, and, commandments of men, and most despitefully contemn and condemn them. But here, for obedience unto temporal edictes and Parliament statutes daily enacted in favor of their schism and heresies▪ they once maliciously forged, and still wickedly retain without alteration, a text of their own, making the Apostle to command submission unto all manner ordinance of man, whereof hath ensued the false crime of treason and cruel death for the same, upon those innocent men and glorious martyrs, that chose to obey God and his Churches holy ordinances, rather then man's statutes and laws directly against the same.

FULK. 25. It is no strange case for an heretic and a raytor that hath sold his tongue to utter slanders against the Church of God and the Christian magistrate protector of the same, to devise and surmise that which never was intended, never was practiced. As y t against the godly and laweful decrees of the Church we should translate men's traditions commandments of men, and to the maintenance of all temporal laws be they never so wicked we should translate ordinance in steed of creature. As for the crime of treason and just execution of them that have suffered of your viperous brood, I refer to the try all of the laws and judgments that have passed upon them, as no matter meet for me to dispute of: only this all good subjects know, yea all the world may know that they which take part with the pope, our princes open and professed enemy, not in matters of religion only, but in cases concerning her crown and dignity, her Realms and Dominions cannot bear dutiful & obedient hearts to her majesty. Whose clemency hitherto hath spared them that acknowledge her princely authority although in all other pointes of popery they continue as obstinate as ever they were.

CHAP. XVI.

Heretical translation against the Sacrament of Matrimony.

BVT as they are injurious translators to the sacred order of Priesthoode, so a man would think they should be very friendly to the sacrament of Matrimony. For they would seem to make more of Matrimony then we do, making it equal at the least with virginity. Yet the truth is, we make it, or rather the Church of God esteemeth it as a holy sacrament, they do not: as giving grace to the married persons to live together in love, concord, and fidelity: they acknowledge no such thing. So that Matrimony with them is highly esteemed in respect of the flesh, or (to say the best) only for a civil contract, as it is among Jews and Pagans: but as it is peculiar to Christians, and (as S. Augustine saith) in the sanctification also and holiness of a Sacrament, they make no account of it, but flatly deny it.

FULK. 1.

VE make no more of matrimony than the holy scripture doeth teach us neither do we in all respects make it equal with virginity, howe so ever you do slander us. But you so make it an holy sacrament that you think the holy order of priesthood is profaned by it. We acknowledge that God giveth grace to them that be faithful, to live in love, concord and fidelity, even as he did to the fathers of the old testament living in the same honorable estate, which proveth that matrimony is no sacrament of the new testament, although it be an holy ordinance for God's children to live in, and in it is contained, a holy secret or mystery of the spiritual conjunction of Christ and his church. It is therefore nothing else but a devilish slander to say that we esteem it but in respect of the flesh or for a civil contract.

MART. 2. And to this purpose they translate in the epistle to the Ephesians, 5. Where the Apostle speaketh of matrimony, This is a great secret. Whereas the Latin Church and all the Doctors thereof have ever read, This is a great Sacrament: the Greek Church and all the fathers thereof, This is a great mystery▪ because that which is in Greek, mystery: is in Latin, Sacrament: and contrariwise, the words in both tongue being equivalent. so that if one be taken in the large signification, the other also: as, Apoc. 17. I will show thee the sacrament of the woman. And I will show thee the mystery of the woman. And so in sundry places, again if one be restrained from the larger signification, & peculiarly applied, signify the Sacraments of the Church, the other also. As, the Sacrament of the body and blood of Christ: or, the Mystery of the body and blood of Christ: and the Calvinists in their Latin and Greek Catechism say, two Sacraments. or, two Mysteries.

FULK. 2. The English word secret signifieth fully as much as the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , in which we must seek no holiness as papists do in vain sound of words: but in the matter annexed, which plainly expresseth that it is a great secret of great holiness whereof the Apostle speaketh. And it is very false that you say that the Latin word sacramentum is equivalent to the Greek: for both it signifieth an oth which y e Greke word doth not, and also it includeth holiness which the Greek word doth not. Or else why saith not your vulgar translator and you the sacrament of iniquity. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 therefore signifieth every secrete, sacramentum only an holy sacrament, as when you say, Apoc. 17. the sacrament of the woman, the meaning is the secret to be revealed concerning her is an holy thing: else in the same chapter you have not a sacrament written in her forheade but a mystery or secret Babylon the mother of abominations. That the sacraments are called mysteries we confess, but that whatsoever is called a mystery may also be called a sacrament, that do we utterly deny.

MART. 3. This being so, what is the fault of their translation in the place aforesaid? this, that they translate neither Sacrament, nor, Mystery. As for the word Sacrament, they are excused, because they translate not the Latin: but translating the Greek, why said they not, Mystery, which is the Greek word here in the Apostle? I mean, why said they not of matrimony, This is a great Mystery? No doubt there can be no other cause, but to avoid both those words, which are used in the Latin and Greek Church, to signify the Sacrament s. For in the Greek Church the Sacrament of th body & blood itself is called but a mystery or mysteries, which yet the Protestants themselves call a true Sacrament. Therefore if they should have called Matrimony also by that name, it might easily have sounded to be a Sacrament also. But in saying it is a great secret, they put it out of doubt that it shall not be so taken.

FULK. 3. Seeing the word secrete y t we use, signifieth wholly as much as mystery, we hope all reasonable men will allow y e same also. Sacrament without prejudice to y e truth we could not translate, and mystery for the better understanding of the people we have expressed in the English word, secrete. Out of which if it have any force of argument in it you may prove matrimony to be a sacrament as well as out of the Greek word mystery. But it is the sound of an unknown word that you had rather play upon in the ears of the ignorants then by any sound argument out of y e scripture to bring them to the knowledge of the truth.

MART. 4. They will say unto me, Is not every sacrament & mystery in english a secrete? Yes, as Angel, is a messenger: & Apostle, one that is sent. But when the holy Scripture useth these words to signify more excellent & divine things then those of the common sort, doth it become translators to use baser terms in steed thereof, & so to disgrace the writing & meaning of the holy Ghost? I appeal to themselves, when they translat this word in other places, whether they say not thus, And w t out doubt, great was y t MYSTERIE of godliness: God was shown manifestly in y e flesh, &c. again, The MYSTERIE which have been hid since y e world began, but now is opened to his saints. again▪ I show you a MYSTERIE, we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. And the like. Where if they should translate, secret, in steed of, mystery, as the Bezites do in one of these places, saying, I will show you a secret thing: what a disgracing & debasing were it to those high mysteries there signified? And if it were so in these, is it not so in matrimony, which the Apostle maketh such a mystery▪ that it representeth no less mater then Christ & his Church & whatsoever is most excellent in that coniunctiō? No then, if in all other places of high mystery they translate it also, mystery, as it is in the Greek, & only in Matrimony do not so, but say rather, This is a great secret, using so base a term in so high & excellent a mystery, must we not needs think (at no dout it is) that they do it because of their heretical opiniō against the Sacrament of Matrimony, & for their base estimation thereof

FULK. 4. Now you fly to your old shift of y e ecclesiastiall use of terms which you cannot prove to be like of this English word mystery, which is commonly as profanely & secularly used as any other word. For what is more common among artificers, thā their science or mystery of weaving, of dying, & such like? And yet the word may be used of the highest secrets of Christian Religiō, as it is of our translators. And wheresoever they have said a mystery they might as truly have said a secret, & where they say a secrete they might have said a mystery. But where you say y t in all other places of high mystery they translate y e word mystery it is false. For Mat. 13. Mark. the 4. Luk. the 8. where all y e mysteries of the kingdom of God are spokē of, they translate mysteria, the secrets of y e kingdom of heaven. & 1. cor. 4. where the sacraments & all other secrets of Christian Religion are spokē of they translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 stewards of y e mysteries of God. Wherefore it is a shameful and senseless slander that here only we use this word secret to show our base estimation of matrimony.

MART. 5. But they will yet reply again, & ask us, what we gain by translating it either Sacrament, or mystery? Doth that make it one of the Sacraments properly so called, to wit, such a Sacrament as Baptism is? no surely, but howsoever we gain otherwise, at least we gain the commendation of true translators, whether it make with us or against us. For otherwise it is not the name that maketh it such a peculiar Sacrament. For (as is said before) Sacrament is a general name in Scripture to other things. Neither do we therefore so translate it, as though it were forthwith one of the seven Sacraments, because of the name: but as in other places wheresoever we find this word in the Latin, we translate it, Sacrament (as in the Apocalypse, the sacrament of the woman ) so finding it here, we do here also so translate it and as for the diverse taking of it here, and else where, that we examine otherwise, by circumstance of the text, and by the Churches and Doctors interpretation: and we find that here it is taken for a Sacrament in that sense as we say, seven Sacraments: not so in the other places.

FULK. 5. No reasonable man can charge us to be false translators when we turn the Greek word into that which it doth generally, properly, and always signify. And for all your bragging of sincere translating, if you should translate Tob. 12. I am persuaded you would not say: it is a good thing to hide the kings sacrament. Yet is the Latin word in that place Sacramentum: and the Greek 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . But it is sufficient for you to have a shadow of something to find yourself occupied rather than you would be saying of nothing.

MART. 6. As when we read this name Jesus in Scripture common to our Savior and to other men, we translate it always alike, Jesus, but when it is JESUS Christ, & when some other Jesus, we know by other circumstances. Likewise presuppose Baptism in the Scripture were called a sacrament: yet the Protestants themselves would not, nor could thereby conclude, that it were one of their two Sacraments. Yet I trow they would not avoid to translate it by the word sacrament, if they found it so called: even so we finding Matrimony so called, do so translate it, neither concluding thereby that it is one of the Seven, nor yet suppressing the name, which no doubt gave some occasion to the Church and the holy doctors to esteem it as one of the Seven. They contrariwise, as though it were never so called, suppress the name altogether, calling it a secrete, to put it out of all question, that it is no Sacrament: which they would not have done, if the Scripture had said of Baptism or the Eucharist, This is a great Sacrament. So partial they are to their own opinions.

FULK. 6. Except you thought you had to do with very ignorant persons, or else esteemed too much of your lately professed divinity, you would never comber the reader with such childish trifles of the name of Jesus, of the bare name of sacrament which could not prove baptism or the Lord's supper to be sacraments &c. and what we would do if we found them so called, &c. I have already told you what we have done, where not only the sacraments, but all other precious Jewels of Christ's church committed to the dispensation of his ministers are called 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and translated secretes without any abasement of the dignity of them, or without any intent to suppress any of the honor and reverence which is due unto them. Wherefore using y e