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Defense of the Translations of the Scriptures into the English Tongue

William Fulke (1538-1589) · 252,507 words · 1122 min

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Hell▪ as things different and distinct: you make them speak but one thing twice, idly and superfluously.

FULK. 17. For our faith of Christ's triumphing over hell, I have spoken already sufficiently, but of the Prophets meaning beside the words them selves, the Apostle is best expounder, who referreth it to the resurrection, and his victory over death, which he hath gained not for him self alone, but for all his elect. Where you say we make grave and death all one, it is false. We know they differ, but that one may e signified by the other, without any idle or superfluous repetition in one verse. I refer me to a whole hundred of examples, that may be brought out of the Psalms, the Prophets, and the Proverbs, where words of the same, like, or near significatiō, are twice together repeated, to note the same matter, which none but a blasphemous dog, will say to be done idly, or superfluously.

MART. 18. But will you know that you should not confound them, but that Mors, & Infernus, which are the words of the holy Scripture in all tongues, are distinct: hear what S. Jerome saith, or if you will not hear, because you are of them which have stopped their ears, let the indifferent Christian Reader hearken to this holy Doctor, and great interpreter of the holy Scriptures according to his singular knowledge in all the learned tongues. Upon the foresaid place of the Prophet, after he had spoken of our Savior Christ's descending into hell, and overcoming of death, he addeth: Betwene death and hell, this is the difference, that death is that whereby the soul is separated from the body: Hell is the place where souls are included, either in rest, or else in pains, according to the quality of their deserts. And that death is one thing, and Hell is another: the Psalmist also declareth, saying: THERE IS not in death, that is mindful of thee, but in Hell who shall confess to thee? And in another place. Let death come upon them, and let them go down into Hell alive. Thus far S. Jerome.

FULK. 18. He that by the grave understandeth a place to receive the bodies of the dead, and figuratively death, doth no more confound the words of death, and the grave, then he that by a cup, understandeth a vessel to receive drink properly, and figuratively, that drink which is contained in such a vessel. Therefore that you cite out of Jerome, maketh nothing against us, for he him self, although deceived by the Septuagintes, or rather by the ambiguity of the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which they use, in the signification of the Hebrew word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , yet by Infernus understandeth them that be In inferno, and the dead, as we do by the word grave oftentimes. As for his opinion of the godly souls in happy hell before Christ's death, or his interpretation of any other parte of Scripture, we profess not to follow in our translations, but as near as we can the true significatiō of the words of holy Scripture, with such sense (if anything be doubtful) as the proper circumstances of every place will lead us unto, that we may attain to the meaning of the holy Ghost.

MART. 19. By which differences of death and Hell, (whereof we must often advertise the Reader) are meant two things: death, and the going down of the soul into some receptacle of Hell, in that state of the old Testament, at what time the holy Scriptures used this phrase so often. Now, these impudent translators in all these places, translate it grave, of purpose to confound it and death together, and to make it but one thing, which S. Jerome showeth to be different, in the very same sense that we have declared.

FULK. 19. The difference of Mors & Infernus which Jerome maketh, cannot always stand, as I have shown of the hoary heads of Jacob, Joab, and Shimei, which none but mad men will say, to have descended into a receptacle of souls, beside other places of Scripture, where Sheol must of necessity signify a place for the body. And even those places of the Psalms, that S. Jerome calleth to witness, do make against his error. For where David saith, Psal. 6. In hell who shall confess unto thee? How can it be true of the souls of the faithful being in that holy hell Abraham's bosom? Did not Abraham confess unto God, & acknowledge his mercy? Did not Lazarus the same, did not all the holy souls departed confess God in Abraham's bosom? Were all those blessed souls so unthankfull, that being carried into that place of rest, and comfort, none of them would confess God's benefits? It is plain therefore, to the confusion of your error, that Sheol in that place of David must needs signify the grave, in which no man doth confess, praise, or give thanks unto God, of whom in death there is no remembrance. Therefore he desireth life and restoring of health, that he may praise God in his Church or congregation. Likewise in the Psal. 54. where he prophesieth unto the wicked a sudden death, such as befell to Chore, Dathan, & Abiram, which went down quick into the grave. Not into hell, whether come no bodies of men living, but the souls of men that are dead.

MART. 20. But alas, is it the very nature of the Hebrew, Greek, or Latin, that forceth thē so much to English it grave, rather than hell? we appeal to all Hebricians, Grecians, & Latinists in the world: first, if a man would ask, what is Hebrew, or Greek, or Latin for Hell: whether they would not answer, these three words, as the very proper words to signify it, even as panis signifieth bread: secondly, if a man would ask, what is Hebrew, or Greek, or Latin, for a grave: whether they would answer these words, and not three other which they know, are as proper words for grave, as lac, is for milk.

FULK. 20. The very nature of the Hebrew word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , is most properly to signify a grave, or receptacle of dead bodies, as all that be learned in that tongue, do know. About the Greek and Latin terms, is not our question, and therefore you deal deceitfully, to handle them all three together. Although neither 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , nor Infernus are so proper for hell, but that they may be taken also sometimes for the grave, and so perhaps were meant by the Greek and Latin translators in diverse places. You speak therefore as one void of all shame, to say they are as proper for hell, as panis, for bread. Where you ask what is Hebrew, Greek, or Latin, for hell: you must understand, that if you speak of a proper word, for those invisible places, wherein the souls departed, are either in joy or torments, I answer, there is no proper word for those places▪ either in Hebrew, Greek, or Latin. For that which of all these tongues is translated heaven, is the proper word for the sensible skye, in which are the Sun, Moon, and Stars, and by a figure is transferred to signify the place of God's glory, in which he reigneth with the blessed spirits of Angels, and men, above this sensible world. Paradise and Abraham's bosom, who is so childish, not to acknowledge them to be borrowed words, and not proper. So fo 〈…〉 of the reprobate souls in the Hebrew tongue T phe •• or Gehinnom which properly are the names of an abhominable place of Idolatry, are used, & Sheol sometimes figuratively may signify the same. In Greek & Latin G henna is used for the same, which is borrowed of the Hebrew. Sometimes also the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in Greek is taken for the place of the damned, and the kingdom of darkness. The Latin word Infernus is any low place. Wherefore I cannot marvel sufficiently at your impudency, which affirm these three words 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and Infernus, to be as proper for our English word hell, as Panis is for bread. That there be other words beside these in all the three tongues to signify a grave, I marvel to what purpose you tell us, except you would have ignorant folk suppose, that there cannot be two Hebrew, Greek, or Latin words for one thing.

MART. 21. Yea, note and consider diligently what we will say. Let them show me out of all the Bible one place, where it is certain and agreed among all, that it must needs signify grave▪ let them show me in any one such place, that the holy Scripture useth any of those former three words for grave. As when Abraham bought a place of burial, whether he bought Infernum: or when it is said the kings of Israel were buried in the monuments or sepulchers of their fathers, whether it say, in infernis patrum suorum. So that not only Divines by this observation, but Grammarians also and children may easily see, that the proper and natural signification of the said words, is in English Hel, and not grave.

FULK. 21. We note well your foolish subtlety, that will have us to show you one place, where it is oertaine and agreed among all, that, sheol must needs signify grave I am persuaded that you and such as you are, that have sold yourselves to Antichrist, to maintain his heresies with all impudency, will agree to nothing that shall be brought, though it be never so plain and certain, that it must needs so signify. I have already shown you three places, where the hoary head is said to go down into sheol, that is into the grave For whether should the hoary head go but into the grave? Nothing can be more plain to him that will agree to truth, that sheol in all such places is taken for the grave. But to omit those places, because I have spoken of them all ready: what say you to that place, Numb. 16? where the earth opened her mouth, & swallowed up the rebels with their tents, and all there substance of cattaile, and whatsoever they had: where the text saith. They went down, and all that they had alive sheolah into the pit or grave. God made a great grave or hole in the earth, to receive them all. Where no man will say that evther the bodies of these men or their substance of Tentes, cattaile, and stuff went into hell, as it is sure their souls went into torment. And if authority do way more with you than good reason, hear what S. Augustine writeth upon the same text▪

and how he taketh your inferos or infernum, which in the Hebrew is sheol, Quest. super Num. lib. 4. c. 29. Et descenderunt ipsi & omnia quaecunque sunt eis viuentes ad inferos. Notandum secundum locum terreni m dictos esse inferos, hoc est, &c. And they themselves descended, and all that they had alive unto Inferas, the lower partes. It is to be noted, that Inferi are spoken of an earthly place, that is in the low partes of the earth. For diversely and under manifold understanding even as the sense of things which are in hand requireth, the name of Inferi is put in the Scriptures, & especially it is wont to be taken for the dead. But for as much as it is said that those descended alive ad inferos, & by the very narration it appeareth sufficiently what was done: it is manifest, as I said, that the lower partes of the earth are termed by this word inferi, in comparison of this upper part of the earth in which we live. Like as in comparison of the higher heaven, where the dwelling of the holy Angels is, the Scripture saith, that the sinful Angels being thrust down into the darkness of this air, are reserved as it were in prisons of a lower part or hell, to be punished.
S. Augustine here doth not only understand this place of the grave or receptacle of bodies: but also showeth that the Latin word inferi or infernus, doth not always signify hell, as you made it of late, as proper for hell, as Panis for bread. But because you shall not complain of the singularity of this example, although you require but one, I will add out of the Psalm 141. where the Prophet saith, our bones are scattered at the very brink or mouth of sheol the grave. Howe can you understand him to speak of hell? For the grave and not hell is a place for dead men's bones: as he speaketh of the faithful, by the wicked compted as good as dead & rotten, consumed to the bones. By these and many other examples, it is manifest, that the proper signification of sheol in English, is a grave and not hell.

MART. 22. And therefore Beza doth strangely abuse his Reader, more than in one place, saying that the Hebrew word doth properly signify grave, being deduced of a verb that signifieth, to crave or ask, because it craveth always new courses. As though the grave craved moe than Hel doth, or swallowed moe, or were more hardly satisfied and filled than Hell. for in all such places they translate grave. And in one such place they say, The grave and destructiō can never be full. Whereas them selves a little before, translate the very same words, Hel & destructiō: and therefore it might have pleased them to have said also, Hel and destructiō can never be full, as their powfellowes do in their translation, and again, We shall swallow them up, like Hel. The Devil (we read) goeth about continually like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may de ou . Who is called in the Apocalypse, Abaddon, that is, destruction. And so very aptly Hel and destruction are joined together, and are truly said never to be filled. What madness and impudency is it then for Beza to write thus: Who is ignorant that by the Hebrew word, rather is signified a grave, for that it seemeth after a sort to crave always new c rcasses?

FULK. 22. Beza doth not abuse his reader, to tell him that sheol is derived of a verb that signifieth craving, or asking: but you do dishonestly abuse Beza, as you do every man, when you take in hand, to affirm that he standeth only upon the etymology of sheol, to prove that it signifieth the grave.

MART. 23. And again, concerning our Savior Christ's descending into hell▪ and delivering the fathers from thence, it is marvel, f i lr Be a, that the most parte of the ancient fathers were in this error, whereas with the Hebrews the word SHEOL, signifieth nothing else but GRAVE. Before, he pleaded upon the etymology or nature of the word, now also he pleadeth upon the authority of the Hebrews themselves. If he were not known to be very impudent and obstinate, we would easily mistrust his skill in the Hebrew, saying that among the Hebrews, the word signifieth nothing else but grave.

FULK. 23. Beza saith that the word Sheol properly signifieth nothing but the grave, nevertheless he saith, it is taken figuratively, for tribulation, which is near to extreme destruction, yea and sometime for the bottomless pit of hell.

MART. 24. I would gladly know, what are those Hebrews: doth not the Hebrew text of the holy Scripture best tell us the use of this word? Do not themselves translate it Hel very often? do not the Septuaginta always? If any Hebrew in the world, were asked, how he would turn these words into Hebrew, Similes estis sepulchris dealbatis: you are like to whited graves: And, Sepulchrum eius apud vos est: His grave is among you: would any Hebrew I say translate it by this Hebrew word which Beza saith among the Hebrews signifieth nothing else but grave▪ Ask your Hebrew Readers in this case, and see what they will answer.

FULK. 24. The best of the Hebrews, that either interpreted Scriptures, or made Dictionaries, Jews, or Christians, do acknowledge that sheol doth properly signify the grave. That the Septuaginta do always translate it 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , it proveth not that it always signifieth hell, for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signifieth not always hell, as in the place of Numb. 16. As for the turning of Latin into Hebrew, is not our controversy, but of translating Hebrew into English, sheol may signify the grave, the hole, the pit, as F •• ea, though it be not all one with the Latin word Sepulchrum. And yet Rabbi Solomon whom you boldly cite in the 27. Section, saith plainly that the true and proper interpretation of Sheol is Keber, which you say, is as proper for grave, as Lac is for milk.

MART. 25. What are those Hebrews then, that Beza speaketh of? forsooth certain Jews or later Rabbin's, which, as they do falsely interpret all the holy Scriptures against our Savior Christ in other points of our belief, as against his Incarnation, Death, and Resurrection: so do they also falsely interpret the holy scriptures against his descending into Hell, which those Jewish Rabbin's deny, because they look for another Messias that shall not die at all, and consequently shall not after his death go down into Hel & deliver the fathers expecting his coming as our savior Christ did. And therefore those Jewish Rabbin's hold as the heretics do, that the fathers of the Old Testament were in heaven before our savior Christ's Incarnation: & these Rabbin's are they which also pervert the Hebrew word to the significatiō of grave, in such places of the holy scriptures as speak either of our Savior Christ's descending into hell, or of the fathers going down into Hell, even in like manner as they pervert other Hebrew words, of the holy scripture, as namely, alma, to signify a young woman, not a virgin, against our Saviors birth of the B. Virgin Marie.

FULK. 25. Beza speaketh of the holy men of God, which did write the Scriptures, and so use that word Sheol, as it cannot be taken to signify anything properly, but the grave or pit. And as for the Jewish Rabbīs, what reason is there, why we should not credit them in the interpretatiou of words, of their own tongue, rather than any ancient Christians ignorant of the Hebrew tongue? And although they do sometimes frowardly contend about the significatiō of a word or two, against the truth of the Gospel, that is no sufficient cause why they should be discredited in all words. But beside them. Beza hath also the best Hebritians that have been in this last age, among the Christians, not only Protestants, but Papists also, namely Pagninus, and Masius, in their Dictionaries.

MART. 26. And if these later Rabbin's be the Hebrews that Beza meaneth, and which these gay English translators follow, we lament that they join themselves with such companions, being the sworn enemies of our Savior Christ. Surely the Christian Hebrews in Rome, and elsewhere, which of great Rabbin's are become zealous Doctors of Christianiti , and therefore honor every mystery and article of our Christian faith, concerning our Savior Christ, they dispute as vehemently against those other Rabbin's, as we do against the Heretics, and among other things, they tell them, thus Saul said, Raise me up Samuel, and that the woman said, I see God's ascending out of the earth, and, An old man is ascended or come up, and that Samuel said, Why hast thou disquieted me, that I should be raised up? and, To morrow thou and thy sons shall be with me. And the book of Ecclesiasticus saith, that Samuel died, and afterward lifted up his voice out of the earth, &c. All which the holy Scripture would never have thus expressed, (whether it were Samuel in deed o not) if Saul and the Jews then had believed, that their Prophets and Patriarchs had been in heaven about. And as for the Hebrew word, they make it (as every boy among the Jews doth well know) as proper a word for Hell▪ as panis is for bread, and as improper for a grave (though so it may be used by a figure of speech) as Cymba Charontis is Latin for death.

FULK. 26. If we followed the Jews in exposition of the Scriptures against Christ, we were not so much to be pitied, as to be abhorred: but if we be content to learn the propriety of Hebrew words of the learned Rabbinsi, as Jerome was glad to do of his Rabbin, who as it appeareth by his scholar in some places, was not excellently learned, there is no cause why any man should pity us, but them rather, that to cloke their ignorance in the Hebrew tongue, pretend as if it were more unlawful to learn Hebrew of the Hebrew Rabbins, than Latin of Quintilian or Priscian, and Greek of Gaza, Soudas, and such like. That you tell v of the Romish Rabbins converted from Iudai me, to Papistry, is not worth a straw. For their argument of Saul's and a witches opinion, that the dead might be raised, proveth nothing in the world, that they were in Hell. And the son of Sirach showeth him self not to be directed by the spirit of God, which affirmeth, Samuel did lift up his voice after his death▪ out of the earth, contrary to the judgment of Catholic Doctors of the Church. For that the Scripture speaketh of Samuel raised by the witche, is meant of a wicked spirit counterfetting the shape and similitude of Samuel. For the souls of the faithful, and holy Prophets, be not at the commandments of witches, but at rest with God, where they cannot be disquieted. As for the authority of those unknown authors, that teach boys to say, Sheol is as proper for hell, as panis for bread, we may esteem it to be of as good credit, as Charons boat, Plutoes palace, and Cerberus three heads, &c.

MART. 27. But what speak I of these? do no: the greatest and most ancient Rabbin's (so to call them) the Septuaginta always translate the Hebrew word, by the Greek 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which is properly hell? do not the Talmudistes, and Chaldee paraphrases, and Rabbi Solomon Iarhi, handling these places of the Psalms, He will deliver my soul from the hand of Sheol, interpret it by Gehinum, that is, Gehenna, hell? and yet the Calvinists bring this place for an example that it signifieth grave. Likewise upon this place, Let all sinners be turned into SHEOL: the foresaid Rabbin's interpret it by Gehinum, Hell. Insomuch that in the Proverbs, and in Job, it is joined with Abaddon. Where Rabbi Levi according to the opinion of the Hebrews, expoundeth Sheol, to be the lowest region of the world, a deep place opposite to heaven, whereof it is written, If I descended into Hell, thou art present: and so doth Rabbi Abraham expound the same word in chap. 2. Ion .

FULK. 27. Although the Septuaginta do always translate Sheol by the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , yet do they not thereby always understand hell: as it is manifest in all those places, where the Scripture speaketh of a receptacle of dead bodies. But now you will bear us down with Rabbins, Talmudists and Chaldee paraphrases. And first you say that all these, handling that verse of the 49. Psalm. He will deliver my soul from the hand of Sheol, interpret it by Gehinnom, that is, hell. I grant that Rabbi Joseph using the liberty of a Paraphrast, rather than a translator, interpreteth the word by Gehinnom, that signifieth hell fire, and so the sense is true. For God delivered David from eternal damnation. But Rabbi David Chimchi, expounding the same place according to the proper signification of Sheol, saith. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . &c.

The Prophet said when he saw the destruction of the souls of the wicked in their death: In the day in which my body shall go down to ( Sheol ) the grave, God shall deliver my soul from the hand of ( Sheol ) the grave, that my soul shall not perish with my body.
You see therefore that all the Rabbin's be not of your side, no nor Rabbi Solomon Rashi, whom you cite. For upon 37. of Genesis, verse 35. where Jacob saith, he will go down to the grave, mourning,
thus he writeth, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Mourning to Sheol, according to the plain and literal sense the interpretation thereof is the grane, in my mourning I will be buried, and I will not be comforted, all my days: but after the Midrash, or exposition, not according to the letter, it is hell. This sign was delivered by hands, or by tradition, from the mouth of his power, (that is from a divine oracle) if not one of my sons shall die in my life time, I had confidence, that I should not see hell.
By this saying, it is manifest, that this Rabbi acknowledged the true and proper translation of this word Sheol, was to the grave, although after figurative, and sometimes fond expositions, it was interpreted for hell. Likewise you say, but untruly, of this verse, Psal. 9. v. 18. Let all sinners be turned to Sheol, for there the Chaldee Paraphrast retaineth the word Sheol, and doth not give any other word for it. David Chimchi interpreteth it according to the literal sense, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Let the wicked be turned into the grave, which is so strange with you to be aunswerable to Sheol, although as R. Solomon he saith, it may be understood of their burial in hell. That Sheol in the Proverbs, & Job is joined with abaddō, it hindereth it not to signify the grave, where is the destru ction and consumption of the body.
And Prov. 15. v. 11. the Chaldee Paraphrast retaineth Sheol, which Kabuenaki expoundeth thus, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , &c. It is said of Sheol, and Abaddon, that Sheol is the grave, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and Abaddon is hell, which is deeper than the grave, &c.
And although in Job Rabbi Levi, and others expound Sheol for a secret place about the center of the earth, which should seem to be hell: yet they say not that this is the proper signification of the word Sheol. For in the 21. of Job. v. 13. the Chaldee Paraphrast for Sheol, interpreteth Kebureta, the grave, and in the 14. verse. 13. beith kebureta, the house of the grave, and 17. v. 12. and 15. the grave. In both which places Rabbi Abraham Peritsol joineth Sheol, and Keber together, both signifying the grave, and in the later verse, he maketh Job to say to his friends 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , The bars of lies with which you comfort me into the midst of the pit of the grave shall go down with me when I die. By all which testimonies it is manifest, that Sheol is not the proper for hell, the receptacle of souls, but for grave, the common dwelling house of men's bodies.

But you will press us yet further, with the authority of Rabbi Abraham upon Jonah. 2. In deed in Abraham Ibn Ezra, I read as you say, but this is only his opinion of the figurative sense of that place.

for upon Hosee cap. 13. v. 14. he expoundeth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 thus, I have been a redeemer of thy fathers, now I will be a destruction of death which is to thee.
And so do R. Shelomo Rashi, and Rabbi David Chimchi: yea, so doth Saint Paul, more worth than all the Rabbins that ever were, expound it.

MART. 28. This being the opinion and interpretation of the Hebrews, See the skill or the honesty of Beza, saying that Sheol, with the Hebrews signifieth nothing but grave. Whereas in deed (to speak skillfully, uprightly, and not contentiously) it may signify grave sometime secondarily, but Hell, principally and properly, as is manifest, for that there is no other word so often used and so familiar in the Scriptures to signify Hell, as this, and for that the Septuaginta do always interpret it by the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 .

FULK. 28. The opinion of the Hebrews being as I have rehearsed out of their own words, see the skill or honesty of Martin, which dare open his mouth against Beza in this matter, and tell us that Sheol may secondarily signify a grave, whereas it doth first and principally so signify, howe soever the Septuaginta do interpret it by 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which signifieth an obscure dark place under the earth, and not hell properly.

MART. 29. The which Greek word is so notorious and peculiar for Hell, that the Pagans use it also for Pluto, whom they feigned to be God of hell, and not God of graves: and and if they would stand with us in this point, we might beat them with their own kind of reasoning, out of Poetes and profane writers, and out of all Lexicons. Unless they will tell us (contrary to their custom) that we Christians must attend the Ecclesiastical use of this word in the Bible, and in Christian writers, & that in them it signifieth grave. For so Beza seemeth to say, that the Greek Interpreters of the Bible translated the Hebrew word aforesayed by this Greek word, as signifying a dark place: whereas the Greek Poetes used it for that which the Latins called Inferos, that is, Hell. Which ambiguity (saith he) of the word, made many err, affirming Christ's descending into Hell. So was LIMBVS built, whereunto afterward Purgatory was laid.

FULK. 29. That Pluto of the Poets is feigned to be the God of Hell, it was here of that they imagined Hell to be a place under the earth, which was his palace, as earth was his kingdom: or else what becometh of the triple division of all the world, if Jupiter having heaven, Neptune the Sea, Pluto should not have the earth? who had his name of the riches enclosed in the earth, and was also called 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , or 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 as in Homer Il. 15. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Jupiter and I, and Pluto the third that ruleth over the dead. Whereof it is put in the Genetiue case; after such prepositions as govern an Accusatiue or Datiue, where 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 the house of Pluto is to be understood. I might here cite diverse places out of Nonius the Christian Greek Poet, who seemeth to use 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 & 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 for the grave, speaking of the resurrection of Christ, John. 2. & of Lazarus cap. 11. But of the translation of the Greke word is not our questiō, but of the Hebrew word Sheol, which the septuaginta turning into 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 mean a place generally to receive the dead, which sometimes is the grave of the bodies, sometimes hell of the souls.

MART. 30. I see Beza his wiliness very well in this pointe. For here the man hath uttered all his heart, and the whole mystery of his crafty meaning of this corrupt translation: that to avoid these three things, Christ's descending into Hell, Limbus patrum, and Purgatory, he and his companions wrest the foresaid words of the holy Scriptures to the signification of grave, But let the indifferent Christian reader only consider Beza his own words in this place, point by point.

FULK. 30. Beza useth no wiliness or craft at all, for he doeth always openly detest the dreams of Limbus and Purgatory, and whatsoever may depend upon them. But let us see what you can gather out of his words.

MART. 31. First he saith, that the Greek Poetes were wont to use the Greek word for Hell: secondly, that they which interpreted the Bible out of Hebrew into Greek, used the very same word for that Hebrew word whereof we have now disputed: thirdlye, that the ancient fathers (for of them he speaketh, as a little before he expresseth) understood the said Greek word for Hell, and thereby grew to those errors (as he impudently affirmeth) of Christ's descending into Hell, and of the place in Hell where the fathers rested expecting the coming of our Savior, &c. Whereby the Reader doeth easily see, that both the profane and also the Ecclesiastical use of the word is for Hell, and not for grave.

FULK. 31. I looked for some great matter, when you began to consider so diligently from point to point: but I see we shall have nothing, but this cold collection, that both the profane and Ecclesiastical use of this word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , is for hell, and not for the grave. That it is used for hell, no man denieth: but that it is used only for hell. Beza saith not, and I have proved that it is not. As also it may be proved by diverse other places out of the Apocriphall writings, namely Sap. 16. v. 13. where it is translated for death by your own Latin translator, being the same verse, that is in the song of Anna 1. Sam. 2. where Sheol is used, and is repeared in that signification Tob. 13. v. 12. Likewise Sap. 2. v. 1. where the ungodly that profess the mortality of the soul say, that none was known to return from 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , the word can signify nothing but grave. For hell it cannot signify in their speech, that believe no hell, & say plainly that their souls shall vanishe like smoke, or light air. Likewise in Baruch. 2. it is taken for the grave, where he saith the dead which are in the 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , shall not give honor to God, where it is certain, that by that word is meant the grave, seeing the souls of the righteous that were in Abraham's bosom, did praise God, and moreover, he maketh it plain that he speaketh of the dead bodies, when he saith their spirit is taken out of their bowels.

MART. 32. And for the Latin word, it is the like case for all the world: and if a man will ask but his child that cometh from the Grammar, what is Infernus, he will say Hell, and not grave: what is Latin for grave? He will answer Sepulchrum, or monumentum. But never Infernus, unless one of these Caluinisticall translators taught him so, to deceive his father.

FULK. 32. I hope they that be wise will believe S. Augustine, rather than you, that the word Inferi, which is the same that Infernus, hath diverse and manifold understandings in the Scripture, as I have declared before sect. 21. But with the Latin word Infornus, we have little to do, which translate not out of Latin, but out of Hebrew or Greek.

MART. 33. Now then, to draw to a conclusion of this their corruption also in their English translation: whereas the Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin words do most properly and usually signify Hell: and both Greek, and Latin interpreters precisely in every place use for the Hebrew word, that one Greek word, and that one Latin word, which by all custom of speaking & writing▪ signify Hell: it had been the part of sincere and true meaning translators, to have translated it also in English always by the word Hell: and afterward to have disputed of the meaning thereof, whether and when it is to be taken for Hell, or grave, or lake, or death, or any such thing. As i one place they have done it very exactly & indifferently, namely when Jonah saith (c. 2. v. 2.) out of the Whales belly. Out of the belly of hell, cried I, and thou heardest my voice. So all translate it, and well, whatsoever it signify in this place. They think that Hell, here signifieth nothing else but the Whales belly, and the affliction of Jonah, and so the word may signify by a Metaphoricall speech, as when we say in English, It is a hell to live thus: and therefore no doubt they did here translate it so, to insinuate that in other places it might as well signify grave, as here the Whales belly.

FULK. 33. Your conclusion is as good as your premisses, because the Greek and Latin Interpreters had before us translated amiss, which gave occasion to diverse errors, therefore we also knowing the true signification of the word, must have followed them in wrong and doubtful translation, and afterward debated the meaning of the several places. But in the margent, you tell us, that such Catholics as have translated the word Sheol▪ for a grave, have also done amiss. Pardon us M. Martin, we take you for no such learned Hebritian, that you should control Pagninus, Isidorus Clarius, and all other Hebritians of this time upon such slender sleeuelesse reasons, as you have brought hitherto. And you show an intolerable proud stomach, that being a man so little seen in the Hebrew tongue (as you show yourself to be) you should condemn such grave and learned persons of your own side, of rashness, or ignorance. For you make them in the case of chance medley, that have translated sheol a grave. Think you the deputies of the Council of Trent had no more discretion in perusing Isidorus Clarius correctiō of the Bible, than to suffer him to change life & safety into chance medley and manslaughter? you may in time to come if you apply your study, prove learned in that language wherein as yet you are but a smatterer not worthy to be heard against so many, so learned, so famous professors of the Hebrew tongue, Jews, and Christians, Protestants, and Papists, authors of Grammars, Dictionaries, and translations. But in the second of Jonah, it pleaseth you well, that our Geneva Bible translateth this word Hell, out of the belly of hell, &c. but you like not that they should interpret it a metaphorical Hell, or the extremity of affliction, whereinto the Prophet was brought: where you make it no doubt what they would insinuate, you show yourself more bold to affirm, than ready or able to prove.

MART. 34. But then they should have translated it also hell in other places, as they did in this, and afterward have interpreted it grave in their commentaries, and not presumptuously to straiten and limit the word of the holy Ghost, to their private sense and interpretation, and to prejudice the ancient & learned holy fathers, which look farremore deeply and spiritually into this prophecy, than to Jonah, or the Whale, our Savior himself also applying it to his own person, and to his being in the heart of the earth three days and three nights. And therefore S. Jerome saith, This belly of Hell, according to the story, is the Whales belly, but it may much better be referred to the persō of Christ, which under the name of David singeth in the Psalm▪ Thou shalt not leave my soul in Hell: Who was in Hel alive, and free among the dead. And that which our Savior saith. The Son of man shall be in the heart of the earth, he doth interpret of his soul in hell. For as the heart is in the middes of the body, so is Hel said to be in the middes of the earth.

FULK. 34. They have in other places translated it according to the propriety of the word. & if in this place they had done so likewise, I see not what fault they had committed. Certain it is that the whales belly, did rather resemble a grave, wherein Jonah seemed to be buried, than hell the receptacle of separated souls. It is the office of a translator not so much to regard what other have written upon the place he translateth, be they ancient, be they godly, be they learned, as what sense the interpretation of the words will best bear. Without prejudice therefore of any man's credit, the truth in this case must be sought out.

That you report out of Jerome upon this place, showeth that both the Hebrew word sheol, and the Latin infernus, are not proper & peculiar for hell, as in other places you tell us. That S. Jerome interpreteth the saying of Christ, Math. 12. v. 40. of his being in the heart of the earth, to be meant of his being in hell, which is said to be in the midst of the earth, it is confuted by the words of our Savior Christ, who saith, that he shall be there three days, and three nights, that is, all the time of his death, which is true of his body in the grave, but not of his soul in hell: for both he said he would be that day in Paradise, and you yourselves hold, that he made no tariaunce in hell. Beside that it is a fantastical opinion to limit hell into the midst of the earth, which is rather a place without the sensible world, than any dungeon within the earth.

MART. 35. Thus then presupposing (as we must) that Jonah speaketh in the person, of our Savior Christ, the principal sense is not of the whales belly, but of that hell whether our Savior Christ descended, and from whence he delivered the fathers of the Old Testament, him self ascending into heaven, as their King and general capitaine before them, and opening the way of heaven unto them, as is signified in another Prophet: and was the first that entered heaven.

FULK. 35. That which Jonah spake, was first true of his own person, and then of Christ, as Jonah was in this a resemblance of him. But by this similitude of Christ remaining so many days and nights in the heart of the earth, as Jonah did in the whales belly, it is manifest that he speaketh of his body remaining in the grave, not of his soul tarrying in hell. Wherefore the descending of Christ into Limbus patrum, hath no manner of hold, either of the saying of Christ in the Gospel▪ Math. 12. or of Jonah in his prayer, Ion. 2.

MART. 36. Against all which truths and every point thereof, these translators are so watchefull and wary, that where the Apostle saith, Christ began, and dedicated unto us the way into heaven, they say, in their English translations with full consent nothing else bus, He prepared. Why are they falls •• here than their Masters, Calvin, Beza, Illyricus, who read, Dedicauit? Is there nothing in the Greek word, but bare preparation? where be these etymologistes now, that can strain and wring other words to the uttermost advantage of their heresy, and here are content for the like advantage, to dissemble the force of this word, which by all use and property signifieth, to make new, to begin a thing, to be the first author, to dedicate: as S. Augustine might have taught them, and their Lexicons, and the Scriptures in many places. This translation (no doubt) is not done sincerely and indifferently of them, but for their own deceitful purpose, as is all the rest. When Saint Paul speaketh of preparation only, they know right well that he useth the usual word to prepare: as, He hath prepared them a city: and wheresoever is signified preparation only, let them bring us one example where it is expressed by the other Greek word, which now we speak of.

FULK. 36. I grant the translations had been more proper, and agreeable to the Greek word, to have said, which he hath dedicated, or by dedication prepared. But here is no fraud, against any truth or error of yours. For the Apostle speaketh not of the way by which we ascend immediately to heaven, but of the way by which we have free access to God through faith, without the veils and ceremonies of the law, as it is manifest by his exhortation. And whereas you said before, that Christ ascending into heavē, to those whom he had brought out of hell, you must tell us then, where they remained all those forty days that were between his resurrection and ascension, except you will make two ascensions of Christ into heaven, one in soul alone, the other in body & soul: which hath not been heard of in the church before. For that his soul was first received into heaven or Paradise immediately after his death, it proveth not an ascension: seeing the same was common to him, with other saints. Again, seeing the mystery of our redēptiō is divided into the death, & resurrectiō of Christ, and that by his death we are delivered from sins, by his resurrection we are justified: if you will not allow his death to have purchased equal redemption to the fathers of the Old Testament and us, but measure the virtue thereof by the instance of time, in which it was actually performed: you must stay your prisoners from entering into the kingdom of heaven, at least until his resurrectiō. For none can enter into the kingdom of heaven, but justified persons. Seeing therefore that justification dependeth upon his resurrection, you must either grant, that it was communicated to the fathers in their time before his incarnation, or else you must stay them from entering into heaven before they were justified by his resurrection. The place of Micah 2 that you quote▪ is nothing to the purpose of Christ's ascending For there the Prophet threateneth the Israelites with the violence of their enemies the Chaldees, whom God him self would prosper against them, to have the victory, and to drive them into captivity.

MART. 37. But it is of more importance, which followeth, and appart yning altogether to this controversy Hebr. 5. v 7. your trauslation is thus, in the very English Bible that now is read in your Churches: Which in days of his flesh offered up prayers with strong crying, unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that which he feared. Is the Greek here, In that which he feared? You know that no Grammar nor Lexicon doth allow you this translation. But either thus for reverence, or as one of your own English Bibles hath it, because of his reverence.

FULK. 37. Your first quarrel against the truest translation of that word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 Heb. 5. is that it saith in that which he feared, whereas the Greek is from fear or out of fear: which afterward you confess though distant in word, yet to be agreeable in sense. The second, that in the margent, our translation is against Christ's descending into hell. How so I pray you? do you according to your translation expound that word of Christ's descending into hell? no verily. But we do expound it of his descending into hell, therefore our translation is to prove Christ's descending into hell: and if our exposition were not true, yet even your opinion of Christ's descent were nothing hindered thereby: you will say, that by our expositiō, we exclude his descent after his death: we do in deed in such sort as your error teacheth, altogether without the Scripture. For if there had been an history of Christ's going into hell, & delivering the Patriarchs and others the faithful from thence, all the Evangelists would not have omitted so notable a matter, and that also an article of our belief.

MART. 38. Howe is it then, that in your later English Bibles you changed your former translation frō better to worse? or who taught you so to translate it? for sooth the Heretike Beza, whose translation you follow for the most parte in your later Bibles, though here, in sense rather than in word. And who taught Beza? he saith, Calvin was the first that ever found out this interpretation. And why? surely for defense of no less blasphemy than this, that our Savior JESUS Christ upon the Cross was horribly afraid of damnation, that he was in the very sorrows and torments of the damned, and that this was his descending into Hell, and that otherwise he descended not. Let the Reader note these new teachers upon this place, and judge to what wicked end this translation tendeth.

FULK. 38. If we have in the later reformed an error escaped in the former, what skilleth it, by whom we were admonished, so to correct it? But Beza you say affirmeth, that Calvin was the first that ever found out this interpretatiō. It appeareth you were never well beaten for lying, it is such a common fault with you. Beza speaking of the interpreters of this age, saith that Calvin (as he thinketh) was the first that shown the true & natural interpretatiō of this place. He saith not, the first that ever found it. Yea clean contrary wise he saith, Denique vt non dubium sit, &c. Finally that it should not be doubtful, but that some of the ancient fathers also have interpreted this place even so, Nazianzenus Conc. de fil. 2. doth plainly number 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 this fear among the infirmities of Christ's manhood. As for that which you call a blasphemy, is a holy and comfortable true doctrine, that Christ for the redemption of our souls, suffered the wrath of God in his soul, as those tears, and that strong cry declareth, in which he complained according to the sense of his humanity, that he was forsaken of God.

MART. 39. A wonderful thing: when all antiquity with a general, and full consent hath in that place of the holy Scripture read thus, that Christ was heard (of his father) for his reverence (according as our Savior him self also saith in the raising of Lazarus, and signifieth in his long prayer Io. 17:) how a blasphemous and presumptuous Heretike should be so malapert thus to alter it, that he was heard in that which he feared, that is, that he was delivered from damnatiō and the eternal pains of hell, which he was sore afraid of. To the maintenance of which blasphemy, Beza will seem to force the Greek thus. First (saith he) 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 doth not here signify reverence or piety, but fear, and such a fear which he calleth pauorem & consternationem animi, that is, dreadfulness and astonishment of mind, and other like words, to insinuate an exceeding horror and fear in our Savior Christ. For confutatiō whereof, we might easily bring the common use of this Greek word in the holy Scriptures to signify not every fear, but that religious fear which is in the best men, joined with godliness, holiness, and devotion, as when in the Acts they that buried S. Stephen, are called Viri timorati, devout men, such as feared God.

FULK. 39. How know you, that all antiquity hath so red? if we had the commentaries of many of the ancient fathers upon this text, we might perhaps prove unto you, that they read otherwise. Nazianzenus as I shown before among Christ's infirmities, reckoneth this fear. Primasius although he expoundeth it of reverence, yet alledgeth out of Cassiodorus that the word is taken sometime for love, sometimes for fear. Theodoretus also interpreteth this place of Christ's fear, according to his human nature, showing that he feared death, which S. Paul feared not, both to show him self a man, and to have experience of all our infirmities without sin. But where you say, that Calvin maketh him to fear damnation, and the eternal pains of hell, it is false. Calvin saith plainly, his fear came not of distrust, but of the sense of his human nature, forbearing the judgment of God, which without vehement endeavor, could not be overcome. Therefore was the astonishment, the tears, the strong cry, the drops of blood, the Angel needful to comfort him, the last extreme conflict, in which he cried, my God my God why hast thou forsaken me. As for the signification of the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 although it be so often taken for piety and religion, yet it is also taken for fear. As Acts 23. Where S Luke saith the Tribune was greatly afraid, least Paul should have been rente in pieces, between the Pharizees and Sadducees, he useth this word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 for being afraid, which was of no piety or religious fear in him, that was a Pagan, but a natural and civil fear, least a prisoner being a Roman, of whom he had charge, should be violently murdered amongst them.

MART. 40. But we need not go far, for Beza will help us him self, who telleth us in another place the very same. His words be these: 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 significat non quemuis timorem, sed cum reuerentia potius quàm cum animi trepidatione coniunctum latini religionē vocant. That is, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 doth not signify every fear, but that which is joined with reverence, rather than with astonishment of mind, the Latins do call it religion, or religious fear. If this be the true signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , as Beza him self confesseth, why doth he not so translate it in the foresaid place to the Hebrews? Why forsaketh he the old approved Latin translation, and general consent of all ancient Interpreters, and translateth it, that fear or astonishment of mind, which he saith the word doth not signify?

FULK. 40. You have great leisure thus to trifle, or rather intolerable malice thus to cavil. Beza in the place by you cited, speaketh of the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , when it is taken for religion, for then it is rather joined with reverence, than with astonishment.

MART. 41. And mark that in his foresaid annotation upon Saint Luke, he telleth not a peculiar signification of the Greek word in that place, as though in some other places it might have another signification, but he telleth generally what the very nature of the Greek word is, that is, that it signifieth not every fear, but a fear joined with reverence. And he said truly: and they shall hardly give an instance, where it signifieth that fear of astonishment, which both he and they translate in the foresaid place of S. Paul. Such a force hath heresy to lead a man even contrary to his own knowledge, to falsify gods holy word.

FULK. 41. Any reasonable man reading the note upon the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , religious, used by S. Luke of Simeon, will understand Beza to speak of the signification of that word, as it is taken in that place, for he speaketh against the barbarous word Timoratus, used by the vulgar Interpreter, which signifieth, if it have any signification, one made afraid, rather than fearing God, with love and reverence. But where you say, we shall hardly give an instance, where the word signifieth that fear of astonishment, which they translate, if you would have taken pains to read Beza's annotations yourself, upon this text in question, you should have found, that he bringeth many instances out of Aristotle, Sophocles, Plutarch, Nazianzen, and S. Luke, Act. 23. If you had remembered what S Mark writeth of our Savior Christ, Mar. 14. v. 33. it should not have been so strange a matter unto you, to hear that our Savior Christ with great astonishment, and terror of mind, was afraid of death, where he useth the words 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 : which was not for bodilye pain or bodily death. (which not only thousands of holy Martyrs have joyfully embraced, but infinite wicked persons have contemned) but for the feeling of God's wrath, which was infinitely more heavy upon his soul, than any torments were upon his body.

MART. 42. Yea Beza saith further to this purpose (much more against his skill in the Greek tongue, if he had any at all) that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 the preposition cannot bear this sense, For which, or in respect whereof, and therefore he translateth the Greek into Latin, thus. Exauditus est ex metu, he was heard from fear: not, for fear, or, for his reverence. And because from fear, is a hard speech, and dark, that seemeth to be the cause why our English translators say, In that which he feared, far from Beza in word, but agreeably in sense.

FULK. 42. When Beza hath shown his skill in the Greek tongue, not only in his translation, and annotations, but also in diverse Greek Epigrams, which he hath set forth, who but one stark mad with malice, & blind with conceit of his own slender skil, would doubt whether Beza had any skill at all in the Greek tongue. As for that he saith of the signification of the preposition 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 ▪ he speaketh in respect of the property of the Greek tongue, for yet you bring no examples, but Hebraisms out of the Scripture, for that signification of the preposition.

MART. 43. But for this matter we send them to Flaccus Illyricus, a Captain Lutheran, who disputeth this very point against the Calvinists: and teacheth them that nothing is more common, than that signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . For proof whereof, we also refer them to these places of the holy scripture. Mat. 13. Luc. 22. and 24. Act. 12. Psal. 87. And Machab. 5. 21. where 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 with a genitive, and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 with an accusative, signify all one, which Beza denieth. Gentle Reader, bear with these tedious grammatications, fitter to be handled in Latin, but necessary in this case also, good for them that understand, & for the rest an occasion to ask of them that have skill in the Greek tongue, whether we accuse our adversaries justly or no, of false translating the holy Scriptures.

FULK. 43. And we by the same authority, send you to Beza's answer, in his last edition of his annotations. And yet the Reader must know that Beza did not simply deny, that the preposition might have such sense. But he said, Non facile mihi persuaserim, I cannot easily persuade myself, that any example can be brought, wherein 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is so used. And in all these examples that you have brought, it signifieth rather prae, which is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , than propter, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , as your vulgar translator observeth the difference, 2. Mac. 5. verse 27. translating prae superbia, and propter elationem mentis. But Beza requireth an example of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , taken for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 or 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , that may answer to the vulgar Latin, pro reuerentia. For who would translate in Saint Matthew, 13. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , pro gaudio, propter gaudium, or secundum gaudium, or 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , pro dolore, and so of the rest, but of these, let Beza him self give account. As for these tedious grammatications, which you confess to have been fitter to be handled in Latin, it seemeth you uttered in English, for that of many ignorant, you might be thought to bring some great learning out of the Hebrew and Greek tongues against us, whereas the learned, if you had written in Latin, of other nations, as well as ours, might have been witnesses of your fond trifling, and quarrelling against our translations. As for the necessary cause you pretend, that the unlearned may ask them that have skyll in Greek, is very ridiculous. For neither can they have at hand always such as be able to resolve them, neither if they be of your faction▪ will they ask any indifferent man's iugement, but only such as will avouch before the ignorant, that all which you write, is good and perfect.

MART. 44. And we beseech them to give us a good reason, why they professing to follow precisely the Greek, do not observe truly the Greek points, in such place as concerneth this present controversy. For the place in the Apocalypse, which they allege of our Savior Christ's suffering from the beginning (thereby to infer that the just men of the old Testament might enter heaven then, as well as after his real and actual death) according to the Greek points, saith thus, All that dwell upon the earth, shall worship him▪ (the beast) whose names have not been written in the book of life of the Lamb slain, from the beginning of the world. Where it is evident, that the Greek text saith not, the Lamb slain from the beginning, but that the names of those Antichristian Idolaters were not written in God's eternal book of predestination, from the beginning, as it is also most plain without all ambiguity, in the 17. chapter, v. 8. If in a place of no controversy they had not been curious in pointes of the Greek, they might have great reason sometime to alter the same.

FULK. 44. How fain would you obscure the light of that excellent testimony, even contrary to your own vulgar Latin translation? that you might not have such a faithful witness against your Limbus patrum? You require a reason, why we keep not the Greek pointes, Apoc. 13. I answer, we keep those pointes, which the most ancient written copies have, which the Complutensis Edi i hath, and which the best Greek printes now have. If you would know a reason why we follow not them that point otherwise▪ I answer you, the composition of the words, is against that pointing. For except Saint John had meant that the Lamb was slain from the beginning of the world, he would not have placed those words, from the beginning of the world, next to those words, the Lamb which is slain, but next the word written. And therefore Aretus that could not understand howe the lamb was slain from the beginning of the world is forced to imagine Hyperbaton in this text, where none needeth, the sense being good and plain without it, as the words do lie.

Whose names are not written in the book of life of the lamb, that hath been slain since the beginning of the world. And although it be true, that the names of the Antichristian Idolaters,
were not written in God's eternal book of predestination, from the beginning, as it is said Apoc. 17. v. 8. Yet is that no reason, why this also should not be true, that the lamb was slain since the beginning of the world, seeing without violence you cannot distract 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , from the lamb slain whom it doth immediately follow.

MART. 45. But if in points of controversy between us, they will say, diverse pointing is of no importance, they know the contrary by the example of ancient heretics, which used this mean also to serve their false heretical purpose. If they say, our vulgar Latin sense pointeth it so, let them profess before God and their conscience, that they do it of reverence to the said ancient latin text, or because it is indifferent, and not for any other cause, and for this one place we will admit their answer.

FULK. 45 We say that wrong pointing may greatly alter the sense, but good composition and placing of words in a sentence is a good rule to direct pointing, where it is either lacking, or falsely signed. We refuse ot the testimony of the vulgar Latin, where it agreeth with the truth of the Greek or Hebrew, yea before God & our consciences, we reverence it, as a monument of some antiquity, from which we neither do, nor are willing to dissent, except the same dissent from the original text. Otherwise the truth of this assertion, that Christ was slain from the beginning of the world, hath not only testimony of the ancient fathers, but also may be confirmed out of the Scripture. For by the obedience of Christ Saint Paul Rom. 5. teacheth that many are justified, meaning all the elect of God, who except Christ's death had been effectual to them, before he suffered actually on the cross, must have gone, not into Limb patrum, but into hell Diabolorum, which is the place appointed for all them that are not justified freely by the grace of God, through the redemption of Christ Jesus, whom God before hath set forth, to be a propitiatory in his blood, Rom. 3. v. 24. &c. The title of this chapter threateneth a discovery of heretical translations against Purgatory especially: but in the whole discourse thereof, which is shameful long one, containing 45. sections, there is not one place noted against Purgatory, Amphora coepit institui, curren e rota cur vrceus exit?

CHAP. VIII.

Heretical translation concerning IVSTIFICATION.

Martin.

ABout the article of justification, as it hath many branches, and their errors therein be manifold, so are their English translations accordingly many ways false and heretical. First, against justification by good works and by keeping the commandments, they suppress the very name of justification in all such places where the word signifieth the commandments or the Law of God, which is both in the old and new Testament most common and usual, namely in the books of Moses, in the Psalm 118. that beginneth thus, Beati immaculati: in the Psalm 147. ver. 19. 1. Mach. 1. ver. 51. and cap. 2. v. 21. Luke. 1. v. 6. Rom. 2. v. 26. In all which places and the like, where the Greek signifieth iustices and justifications most exactly, according as our vulgar latin trāslateth, iustitias & iustificationes: there the English translations say jointly & with one consent, ordinances, or, statutes. For example, Rom. 2. If the uncircumcision keep the ORDINANCES of the law, shall it not be counted for circumcision? And Luc. 1, 6. They were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ORDINANCES of the Lord, blameless. Why translate you it ordinances, and avoid the term, justifications? is it because you would follow the Greek? I beseech you is not 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , just, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , to be justified, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , justifications or iustices? In the Old Testament you might perhaps pretend, that you follow the Hebrew word, and therefore there you translate, statutes, or ordinances. But even there also, are not the seventy Greek interpreters sufficient to teache you the signification of the Hebrew word: who always interpret it 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , in English, justifications?

Fulke.

THese matters were driven so thin in the first chapter, that you shall sooner press out blood, than anymore probable matter. For the old Testament, which we translate out of the Hebrew, you yourself do set forth our answer, that we give the English of Chukim, when we say, ordinances, or statutes, and not of the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which of the Septuaginta is used in the same sense for precepts, and commandments, as you yourself confess cap. 1. sect. 50. that very often in the Scripture it signifieth commandments. But the Septuaginta, you say, are sufficient to teache us the interpretation of the Hebrew word, who always interpret it 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . If they had always interpreted it so, it is not sufficient to teache us: then there needed none other translation, but according to theirs, then must you depart from your vulgar translation, which in many things departeth from them. But where, you say they always interpret the Hebrew word Chukim, by 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , it is false. For Exod. 18. v. 20. they translate it 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Praecepta, which your vulgar translation calleth Ceremonias, ceremonies, as it doeth also Gen. 26. v. 5. where the Septuaginta translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 : by which you see, that justification, is not always the English for the Greek word, which the Septuaginta do use. Also Num. 9. v. 3. for Chukoth they translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 the law, which the vulgar Latin calleth Ceremonias, ceremonies, and for the Hebrew word Misphatim, they give 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , comparation, the vulgar Latin justification, by which you may see, how your trāslatour useth even the Latin word, that you make so much a do about. Likewise in the fourteenth verse of the same Chapter, the Septuaginta translate Chukath, twice together 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and that which the vulgar Latin calleth justification of the passover, the Greek calleth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , the order of the pascall, Deut. 4. your vulgar Latin turneth Chukim, thrice Ceremonias, ceremonies. And Deut. 5. twice, and Deut. 6. twice, Deut. 7. once, and so commonly almost in every chapter. But in the chap. 11. v. 32. the Greek for Chukim hath 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , where as in the beginning of the chapter, he had 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , the Latin in both Ceremonias, ceremonies. By which it is evident what the Greeks and Latins meant by those words. chap. 20. for this Hebrew word, and in another the Greek hath nothing but 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 commandments. So hath he 1. Reg. 2. v. 3. for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 commandments. Also 1. Reg. 8. v. 58. for Chukim, he hath 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and for Misphatim, he hath 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , as he hath it twice in the next verse, where Solomon prayeth that God will defend his cause, and the cause of his people Israel, as the cause shall require. More examples might I bring, but for tediousness, to convince the bold rashness of this quarreller, but these may suffice all indifferent Readers: and answer sufficiently for us, within the new Testament, we translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , ordinances, or statutes, seeing it is proved, both by the Septuaginta which calleth the same Hebrew word, not only justifications, but often commandments, statutes, precepts, judgments, & by the vulgar Latin Interpretor, which commonly calleth it ceremonies or precepts.

MART. 2. But be it, that you may control them in the Hebrew, which none but fools will grant unto you: in the new Testament, what pretense have you? do you there also translate the Hebrew word, or rather the Greek? the Greek undoubtedly you should translate. What reason then can you have, why you do not? none other surely, than that which Beza giveth for him self▪ saying, that he rejected the word, justifications, (notwithstanding it expressed the Greek, word for word, notwithstanding the seventy Greek Interpreters, used it to signify the whole law, and in Latin it be commonly translated, iustificationes, ) notwithstanding all this, for this only cause (saith he) did I reject it, to avoid the cavillations that might be made by this word, against justification by faith. As if he should say, This word truly translated, according to the Greek, might minister great occasion to prove by so many places of scripture, that man's justification is not by faith only, but also by keeping the law, and observing the commandments, which therefore are called according to the Greek and Latin, justifications, because they concur to justification, and make a man just, as by S. Luke's words also is well signified, which have this allusion, that they were both just, because they walked in all the justifications of our Lord. Which they of purpose suppress by other words.

FULK. 2. None but fools considering what I have brought of the usage of that word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 will judge that it signifieth only justifications: and all wise men may see that we have good warrant to translate it otherwise in the Greek Testament, where it must needs have another signification. The concurrence of works with faith to iustificatiō before God, which the Apostle doth exclude. Rom. 3. we may not admit. But justification by works, as Saint James teacheth, we do acknoweledge. I hope you will not say, that your Latin translator against justification by works, translated the word so often ceremonies, or that ceremonies of the law do concur to justification by faith. The commandments in deed are called justifications, because the works of the law, if a man keep it wholly, are able to justify. Not that every ceremony or observation of any piece of the law, is a justification, or maketh a man just: which you may better say, upon the etymology of the word, than that every particular observation of the law, or good work, doth concur with faith unto justification.

MART. 3. And hereof also it riseth, that when he cannot possibly avoid the word in his translation (as Apoc. 19. 8. Bissinum enim iustificationes sunt sanctorum, The silk is the justifications of Saints: ) there he helpeth the matter with this commentary, That justifications, are those good works which be the testimonies of a lively faith. But our English translators have another way to avoid the word even in their translation. For they say here, the righteöusnes of Saints: because they could not say, ordinances of Saints: and they would not say, justifications of Saints: knowing very well (by Beza's own commentary) that this word includeth the good works of saints: which works if they should in translating call their justifications, it would go sore against justification by only faith. Therefore do they translate in steed thereof, ordinances, and, statutes, where they can, which are terms furthest of from justification: and where they cannot, there they say, righteousness, making it also the plural number, whereas the more proper Greek word for righteousness is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 (Dan. 6, 22.) which there some of them translate vngiltinesse: because they will not translate exactly, if you would hire them.

FULK. 3. When 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 Apoc. 19. are translated iustificationes, they signify just works, as I have already proved the significatiō of the word to bear, beside that it is so used by Aristotle in his Ethics, who of iustificatiō before God (whereof we speak) understood never a whit. Therefore, if in steed of righteousness, which is the singular number, it were translated righteous or just works, it were not amiss in mine opinion. Although by righteousness in that place, is nothing meant, but good or righteous works, as Beza's note doth tell you.

MART. 4. And therefore as for, justice, and, justifications, they say righteousness: so for, just, they translate, righteous. and by this means, Joseph was a righteous mā, rather than a just man: and Zechariah and Elisabeth were both righteous before God, rather than just: because when a man is called just, it soundeth that he is so in deed, and not by imputation only: as a wise man, is understood to be wise in deed, and not only so imputed. Therefore do they more gladly and more often say, righteous men, rather than, just men, & when they do say, just men, as sometime they do least they might s eme willful inexcusably: there they understand, just by imputation, & not in deed, as is to be seen in Beza's Annotations upon the Epistle to the Romans. Note also that they put the word, just, when faith is joined withal, as Rom. 1. The just shall live by faith, to signify that justification is by faith. But if works be joined withal, and keeping the commandments, as in the place alleged Luc. 1. there they say, righteous, to suppress justification by works.

FULK. 4. This is a marvelous difference, never heard of (I think) in the English tongue before, between just & righteous, justice & righteousness. I am sure there is none of our translators, no nor any professer of justification by faith only, that esteemeth it the worth of one hair, whether you say in any place of Scripture just or righteous, justice or righteousness: and therefore freely they have used sometimes the one word, sometimes the other. Therefore, it is a monstrous falsehood, that you fain them to observe this distinction, that they join just with faith, and righteous with works. Do they not translate Rom. 2. ver. 13. the hearers of the law are not righteous before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Have you not again, the righteousness of God is made manifest without the law &c. by the faith of Jesus Christ. And where you read the just shall live by faith, have you not immediately, the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith, as it is written, the just shall live by faith? Who then but the Devil, which hath his name of sclaundering, would here invent a distinction of just and righteous?

MART. 5 And certain it is, if there were no sinister meaning, they would in no place avoid to say, just, justice, justification, where both the Greek and Latin are so, word for word, as for example. 2. Tim. 48. In all their Bibles▪ Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of RIGHTEOVSNES, which the Lord the RIGHTEOVS judge shall GIVE me at that day. And again 2. Thess. 1. Rejoice in tribulation which is a token of the RIGHTEOVS IVDGEMENT of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God for which ye suffer. For it is a RIGHTEOVS THING with God, to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you: and to you that are troubled, rest with us, in the revelation of our Lord JESUS from heaven. And again Heb 6. 10. God is not VNRIGHTEOVS to forget your good work and labor, &c. These are very pregnant places to discover their false purpose in concealing the word, justice, in all their Bibles. For if they will say, that justice is not an usual English word in this sense, and therefore they say, righteousness: yes I trow, just, and unjust, are usual and well known. Why thē would they not say at the least, in the places alleged, God the IVST judge, A token of the IVST IVDGEMENT of God, It is a IVST thing with God, God is not VNIVST to forget &c? Why is it not at the least in one of their English Bibles, eeing so both in Greek and Latin?

FULK. 5. Certain it is, that no Englishman knoweth the difference between just and righteous, unjust & unrighteous, saving that righteousness & righteous are the more familiar English words. And that we mean no fraud between justice and righteousness, to apply the one to faith, the other to works, read Rom. 10. v. 34. 5. and 6. of the Geneva translation, where you shall see, the righteousness of the law, & the righteousness of faith. Read also against this impudent lie, in the same translatiō Luc. 1. Zechariah and Elizabeth were both just. Cap. 2. Simeon was just. Matthew the first, Joseph a just man; and else where often times, and without any difference in the world, from the word righteous. Who ever heard a difference made, between a just judge and a righteous judge, this trifling is too too shameful abusing of men's patience, that shall vouchsafe to read these blotted papers.

MART. 6. Understand gentle Reader, and mark well, that if S. Paul's words were truly translated thus, A crown of IVSTICE is laid up for me▪ which our Lord the IVST judge will RENDER unto me at that day, and so in the other places: it would infer, that men are justly crowned in heaven for their good works upon earth, and that i is God's justice so to do, and that he will do so because he is a just judge, and because he will show his IVST IVDGEMENT, and he will not forget so to do, because he is not unjust: as the ancient fathers (namely the Greek doctors S. Chrysostom, Theodorete, and Oecumenius upon these places) do interpret and expound. In so much that Oecumenius saith thus upon the foresaid place to the Thessalonians, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 &c. See here, that to suffer for Christ procureth the kingdom of heavē according to IVST IVDGEMENT, and not according to grace. Which least the Adversary might take in the worse parte, as though it were only God's justice or just judgment, and not his favor or grace also. S. Augustine excellently declareth how it is both the one and the other: to wit, his grace and favor and mercy, in waking us by his grace to live and believe well, and so to be worthy of heaven: his justice and just judgment, to render and repaye for those works which him self wrought in us, life everlasting. Which he expresseth thus: How should he render or repay as a just judge, unless he had given it as a merciful father? Where S. Augustine urgeth the words of repaying as due, and of being A IVST IVDGE therefore. Both which the said translators corrupt, not only▪ saying, righteous judge, for, just judge: but, that he will give a crown, which is of a thing not due, for that which is in the Greek, He will render or repay: which is of a thing due and deserved, and hath relation to works going before, for the which the crown is repaied. He said not (saith Theophylacte upon this place) he will give, but, he will render or repay, as a certain de te. For he being just, will define and limit the reward according to the labors. The crown therefore is due debt, because of the judges justice. So saith he.

FULK. 6. What so ever you may cavil upon the words just and justice, you may do the same, with as great advantage, upon the words righteous and righteousness. That God as a just judge reward •• good works, of them that are justified freely by his grace, by faith without works, with a crown of justice, it proveth not either justification by works, or the merit or worthiness▪ of men's works, but all dependeth upon the grace of God, who promiseth this reward of his mere mercy, and of the worthiness and merits of Christ, which is our justice, whereby we being justified before God, our works also, which he hath given us, are rewarded of his justice, yet in respect of Christ's merits, and not in respect of the worthiness of the works. Again, God is not unmindful of his promise, to reward our works, for then he should be unjust: he is just therefore to perform what so ever he hath promised, though we nothing deserve it. Neither hath Chrysostom, or Theodorete, any other meaning. That you cite out of Oecumenius a late writer in comparison, is blasphemous against the grace of God, neither is S. Augustine, that lived 500. years before him, a sufficient interpreter of his saying, to excuse him. With Augustine we say, God crowneth his gifts, not our merits. And as he acknowledgeth God's mercy, and also his justice, in rewarding our works, so do we. Where 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is translated he will give, I confess it had been more proper, and agreeable to the Greek, to have said, he will render, or repaie, which yet is wholly of mercy in respect of us, or our deserving, but of justice in respect of his promises, and of Christ's merits, unto which is rendered, and repaid, that which he deserved for us. The crown therefore is due debt, because it is promised to us for Christ's sake, not because any works of ours are able to purchase it.

MART. 7. Which speeches being moste true as being the express words of holy Scripture, yet we know howe odiously the Adversaries may and do misconster them to the ignorant, as though we challenged heaven by our own works, and as though we made God bound to us. Which we do not, God forbid. But because he hath prepared good works for us (as the Apostle saith) to walk in them, and doth by his grace cause us to do them, and hath promised life everlasting for them, and telleth us in all his holy Scriptures, that to do them is the way to heaven▪ therefore not presuming upon our own works as our own or as of our selves, but upon the good works wrought through God's grace by us his seely instruments, we have great confidence (as the Apostle speaketh) and are assured that these works proceeding of his grace, be so acceptable to him; that they are esteemed and be worthy and meritorious of the kingdom of heaven. Against which truth, let us see further, their heretical corruptions.

FULK. 7. If you would abide by your first protestation▪ we should not need to contend much about this question. But after you have in the beginning magnified the grace and mercy of God, and abased your own merits, you come back again with a subtle compass, to establish your own free will, the worthiness of your works, and your merit of the kingdom of heaven. First, you say God telleth us in all his holy Scriptures, that to do good works, is the way to heaven. In deed to fulfill the law, is to deserve heaven. But who so ever is guilty of sin, must seek another way, than by good works to come to heavē, namely to Jesus Christ, who is the only way to heaven, the truth, and the life, by whose blood, when he is purged from his sin, and reconciled unto God, and the kingdom of heaven purchased for him, then he hath the way of good works appointed him to walk in, toward the same. Secondly, you say you presume not upon your own works, as your own, or as of yourselves, but upon the good works wrought by God's grace, by you his seely instruments, you have great confidence. Thus while you would seem to fly from Pelagia isme, you fall into flat Pharisaism. For you trust that you are righteous in yourselves, though not as of yourselves. Suche was the Pharisee of whom Christ telleth the parable, which ascribing all his works to the grace of God, had confidence in them, that he was just before God by them. God I thanke thee (saith the Pharisee). He acknowledgeth the grace of God, as author of all his works: yet against such as he was, Christ telleth that parable. And whereas you call the Apostle, Heb. 10. to witness of your error, you do him great wrong, for he speaketh not of any confidence to be had upon good works, wrought by the grace of God by us: but in the new covenant of remission of sins, by the sacrifice of Christ's death, by whom we have access to God, that we may be acceptable to him, not for any meritorious works wrought by us, but by the only oblation of his body once for all, by which he hath made perfect forever, those that are sanctified.

CHAP. IX.

Heretical translation against MERITES, or MERITORIOVS WORKES, and the REWARDE for the same.

Martin.

WHen they translate (Rom. 8. 18.) thus, I am certainly persuaded, that the afflictions of this time, ARE NOT WORTHIE OF THE GLORIE which shall be shown upon us: do they not mean to signify to the Reader, & must it not needs so sound in his ears, that the tribulations of this life, be they never so great, though suffered for Christ, yet do not merit nor deserve the heavenly glory? but in the Greek it is far otherwise. I will not stand upon their first words, I am certainly persuaded, which is a far greater asseveration, than the Apostle useth, and I marvel how they could so translate that Greek word, but that they were disposed, not only to translate the Apostles words falsely against meritorious works, but also to avouch and affirm the same lustily, with much more vehemency of words, than the Apostle speaketh. Well, let us pardon them this fault, and examine the words following. Where the Greek saith not, as they translate with full consent in all their English Bibles, The afflictions are not worthy of the glory, &c. but thus, The afflictions of this time, are not equal, correspondent, or comparable to the glory to come. because the afflictions are short, the glory is eternal: the afflictions small and few, in comparison, the glory great and abundant above measure.

Fulke.

ALthough an invincible argument against merits, and desert of good works, may be drawn out of this text, yet the meaning of the translators is to show, no more, than the Apostle saith, that the heavenly glory is incomparably greater, than all the tribulations of this life. And this the Apostle speaketh, not doubtīgly, as our english word (I suppose) doth signify, when a man may be deceived in his supposel, but he avoucheth it constantly, as a thing, which being well considered, with the reasons thereof, he concludeth of it with certainty. And so doth 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signify in this place, and in diverse other, by the judgment of better Grecians, than Gregory Martin will be these seven years, as Rom. 3. 28. where the Apostle having discussed the controversy of justification by faith, or works, concludeth, as of a certainty, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . we determine therefore, that a man is justified by faith, without the works of the law. Likewise, Rom. 6. v. 11. after he hath proved, that sanctification is necessary to all them that shall▪ or have put on the justice of Christ, he saith with great asseveration unto the Romans, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 Make you full account therefore, that you are dead to sin, & not uncertainly think or suppose it so to be. Therefore for the translation of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , in this place, we will accept no pardon of you, it is better translated than your wit or learning serveth you to understand. Now let us come to the other words, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , are not worthy of the glory. Where you say, it should be not equal, correspondent, or comparable, to the glory. Verily those words we use, have none other sense in this place, than the words which you supply us withal, but our words do express the moste usual signification of the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , even as your vulgar Latin doth, calling it in the same sense condignae, which you in your own translation dare not render, equal, correspondent, or comparable, but condign: lest following the sense, you might be accused to forsake the word, even so we think it best, where the usual signification of the word will bear the sense in our English, to retain the same, and not to change it.

MART. 2. This is the Greek phrase and the Apostles meaning, which we need not greatly to prove, because their own Doctors Calvin, and Beza, do so interpret it, and therefore wonder it were, that the Geneva English Bibles also should forsake their masters, and follow the error of the other English Bibles, but that they thought the more voices the better. In the mean time, the people s eth no other translation, and thinketh it is the Apostles very words. But Beza himself elleth them the contrary, translating thus: Statuo minime esse paria quae praesenti tempore perpetimur, futurae gloriae nobis reuelandae, that is, I am of this opinion, that the things which we suffer in this present time, are not equal to the glory that shall be revealed to us. And in his commentary, thus, S. Paul's discourse and matter handled in this place, declare, that he speaketh not of the valure or price of the afflictions which we suffer for Christ, but rather by comparing their quality, and quantity, with life everlasting, he gathereth that we shall be infinitely more happy with Christ, than we are miserable here. Therefore did he use the ▪ Greek word rightly, and properly, which the Grammarians say is spoken of such things, as being poised or weighed, are found of one weight. Thus far Beza.

FULK. 2. We contend not, as it seemeth at this time, about the meaning of the place, but about the true translation of the words. If you can prove therefore, that the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , doth not signify worthy, or that this English word worthy, cannot express the meaning of the Apostle in this text, your accusation is just, but if you can prove neither of both, you multiply words, as your manner is, without matter, to no purpose, but to weary the Reader. And wisely you translate▪ Beza's Latin word Statuo, I am of opinion, which signifieth more truly, I determine, or as our translation hath, I am certainly persuaded, and not, I am of an opinion, whereof there is no certain knowledge, for an opinion may be false, and is of uncertainties.

MART. 3. If then a comparison only be signified, why do they not so translate it in English, that it may be taken for a comparison in our English phrase? For they know very well that if a man should say in English, according as they translate, Good works are not worthy of heaven, this man is not worthy of my favor, he is not worthy of such a living, of so great praises: every English man understandeth it thus, that they deserve not heaven, and that such a man deserveth not this or that. Even so must the Reader needs take it in this place, & they must needs have intended that he should so take it. For though the Greek phrase may signify a comparison, being so uttered, yet not the English. And if it might, yet obscurely, and ambiguously: and if it might, yet here they do falsely translate so, because here the Greek phrase is otherwise, and therefore should otherwise be englished▪ For it is not, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which is, as they translate, worthy of the glory: but, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which cannot be so translated. For if it might, then these Greek phrases were alone, and might be used indifferently. And then I must desire them to turn me this into Greek, He is not worthy of thanks. And if they turn it by the Apostles phrase in this place, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , to all Grecians they shall be ridiculous. And yet this is as well turned out of English into Greek, as they have turned the other out of Greek into English.

FULK. 3. Verily I cannot see, nor any wise man else, I think, what this English word, worthiness, doth signify, but a comparison of equality in price, valor, goodness, excellency, or such like. And even in those English phrases, that you bring for example: Good works are not worthy of heaven, the meaning is. There is not an equality of excellency in good works and heaven: or good works compared to heaven, are not equal in valure. And even so: this man is not worthy of my favor. The goodness of this man, is not so great, as the goodness of my favor. And so of the rest. And where you say, every English man understandeth it thus: that they deserve not heaven, and such a man deserveth not this, &c. I grant they may of worthiness gather desert, in such as may deserve, and so may they of the comparison of equality, conclude desert in the like case. For to deserve, is by doing, to make him self equal in good or evil to that reward, or punishment which is valued with such doing. Therefore whether you say worthy, or equal, it is all one. And in this text▪ by either of both, merit or desert is necessarily excluded. For if the heavenly glory be incōparably greater, than the afflictions of this life, it followeth of necessity, that the afflictions of this life deserve not, that is, make not an equality of excellency with heavenly glory. But the Greek phrase (you say) is otherwise, for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is not joined with a Genitiue case, but with an Accusatiue, and a Preposition: In deed this later construction of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is not so usual, and doeth more fully set forth the comparison, but the same also is set forth by the Genitiue case, as you yourself cannot deny. Now our English phrase would not bear, that we should say, worthy to the glory, & therefore we said worthy of the glory. But if that were good, you say, the Greek phrases were all one, and might be used indifferently. I see no great difference between the Greek phrases, and yet it followeth not, that they may be used indifferently. For unusual phrases are not to be used as indifferently, as common phrases. And therefore your example of turning English into Greek, is not all one, with turning Greek into English. If I translate our of Greek into English, I must observe the English phrase, as near as I can, and so if I translate into Greek, must I have respect to the usual Greek phrase. And to speak of your ridiculous translation, out of English into Greek. I think he that should say, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , for worthy of thanks, should deserve no great commendation. But he that should say, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , for worthy of the kings favor, though it be no usual phrase▪ I see not why he should be ridiculous. And if you should translate these words into English, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Woulde you not, or might you not translate it thus? Nero was not worthy of the kingdom. Therefore we have not done amiss, to translate, worthy of the glory.

MART. 4. Marie, if they would express a comparison of equality or inequality between thing and thing, then this is the proper Greek phrase thereof, and much more proper for this purpose, than by 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and a Genitiue case. Which notwithstanding is often so used in Scriptures by way of comparison, as Prouerb. 3. concerning the praise of wisdom. Where S. Augustine to express the comparison, readeth thus, Omne pretiosum non est illi dignum: and S. Jerome according to the Hebrew thus, Omnia quae desiderantur non valent huic comparari. or, adaequari. and Eccles. 26. we have the very like speech proceeding of the said Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Omnis ponderatio non est digna continentis animae. Which the English Bibles thus, There is no weight to be compared unto a mind that can rule it self. or, with a continent mind.

FULK. 4. You cannot use the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , but it will include a comparison, whether it be with a Genitiue case, as in the examples you bring, or with an Accusatiue, as in this text of S. Paul. And even so the English word (worthy) doth comprehend an equality in good or evil. Wherefore the sense is all one, whether you say in this text equal or worthy: but that the usual signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is worthy, as no man will deny, that is not past all shame.

MART. 5. And if 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 with a genitive case signify a comparison, and them selves so translate it in all their Bibles, should not 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in the Apostles phrase much more be so translated? I appeal to their own consciences. Again, if here in Ecclesiasticus they say not according to the Greek words, There is no weight worthy of a continent mind, because they would by an English phrase express the comparison: is it not more than evident, that when they translate the Apostle by the very same words, Worthie of the glory, &c. they know it cannot, and they mean it should not signify a comparison? I cannot sufficiently express, but only to the learned & skillful reader, their partial and heretical dealing. Briefly, I say, they translate, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Not to be compared with a continent mind, being in Greek word for word. Not worthy of a continent mind: and contrariwise they translate in S. Paul, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Not worthy of the glory to come, being in the Greek, Not to be compared to the glory to come. according to the very like Latin phrase by dignus, Eccl. 6. Amico fideli nulla est comparatio, & non est DIGNA ponderatio auri & argenti CONTRA BONITATEM FIDEI, that is, according to their own translation, A faithful friend hath no peer, weight of gold and silver is not to be compared to the goodness of his faith.

FULK. 5. If the English word (worthy) did not signify a comparison▪ as well as the Greke word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , it were somewhat that you say, but seeing one signifieth as much as the other, there is no more savor in your disputatiō, than in an egg without salt. When we say, there is no weight of gold to be compared to a continent mind, it is all one, as if we said, worthy of a continent mind, for we meant, to be compared in goodness, price, excellency, &c. And therefore you speak out of measure falsely, & impudentlye, when you say, we mean not that the word (worthy) in this text of S. Paul, should signify a comparison, for it is not possible that it should signify otherwise. Doth not the Geneva note in the margent say, or of like valure. If you be so blind, that you cannot see a comparison in the word worthy, at the least shore up your eyes, and behold it in those words of like or equal value. For all comparison is either in quantity or quality. And where you say, that you cannot express your conceit, but only to the learned, there is none so meanly learned, but they may well laugh at your foolish and unlearned trifling.

MART. 6. Now if they will say, though their translation of Saint Paul's words be not so exact and commodious, yet the sense and meaning is all one (for if these present afflictions be not equal or comparable to the glory to come, then neither are they worthy of it, nor can deserve or merit it) let the Christian Reader mark the difference. First their Beza and Calvin telleth them that the Apostle speaketh of the one, and not of the other. Secondly, the passions and afflictions that Christ our Savior suffered all his life, were not comparable to the eternal glory which he obtained thereby: yet did he thereby deserve and merit eternal glory, not only for him self, but for all the world: yea by the least affliction he suffered, did he deserve all this. Unless you will deny also that he merited and deserved his glory, which your opinion a man might very well gather by some of your false translations, but that you would think us too suspicious, which perhaps we will examine hereafter. Thirdly, the present pleasure of aduoutrie during a man's life, is not comparable to the eternal torments of hell fire: and yet it doth merit and deserve the same. Fourthly, the Apostle by making an incomparable difference of the glory to come with the afflictions of this time, doth (as Saint Chrysostom saith) exhort them the more vehemently and move them to sustain all things the more willingly: but if he said as they translate, The afflictions are not worthy of heaven, you are never the nearer heaven for them, only believe: this had not been to exhort them, but to discourage them. Fifthly, the Apostle when he will else where encourage them to suffer, saith plainly, Our tribulation which presently is for a moment and light, WORKETH above measure exceedingly, an eternal weight of glory in us.

FULK. 6. We say our translation, both in word, and sense, is the same in English, that S. Paul did write in Greek. As for the argument, against merit, or desert which doeth follow thereof, we affirm that it is as necessarily gathered of the words equal, or comparable, or correspondent, as of the word, worthy. But to overthrow this argument, you have five reasons. The first is of the authority of Beza, and Calvin, which you say telleth us, that the Apostle speaketh of the one, and not of the other. To this I answer, that they both affirm the consequence against merits out of this text, although it be not the Apostles direct purpose, to abase the merit of works, by comparison of the excellency of the glory. To your seconde argument, I answer, that though the afflictions that Christ our Savior suffered, were not comparable in respect of the length of time, with the eternal glory that he obtained thereby: yet in respect of the excellency of his person, and the perfection of his obedience, they were comparable, and of equal value tó deserve eternal glory according to the justice of God, by which one man's disobedience was sufficient, to eternal condemnation, Rom. 5. What the least of his afflictions, separated from all the rest, was in valure, I have not learned out of the Scripture, only I think, he suffered nothing superfluously, ▪nor less than was needful to answer the justice of God. Your other fond surmises, I omit, until you express them. To your third argument, I say, that one act of adultery is worthy of damnation, and deserveth eternal torment, not by comparison of the short pleasure, with infinite pain: but because it is a sin committed against the majesty of the eternal God: and therefore is worthy of eternal punishment. For the sin is to be measured after the excellency of the person, against whom it is committed. Therefore that word▪ which being spoken against a poor man, is a light fault, as to say he is a knave, the same being spoken against a Lord, is an heinous offense, and deserveth the pillorie, hut being spoken against a King, is high treason, and is worthy of death. Seeing therefore the eternal majesty of God is contemned in every sin, that sin doth justly deserve eternal torments. Fourthly, it is true, that the Apostle doth exhort us cheerfully to abide the small and momentary afflictions of this life, in respect that they shall be rewarded with incomparable glory. But hereof it followeth not, that the glory is deserved, by short and small sufferings, but is given of the bountiful liberality of God, to them that for his sake patiently suffer such small afflictions. Therefore, if it be an encouragement for a man to labor, to hear that he shall be paid his hire, as much as his work deserveth: it is a much greater encouragement for him to hear, that he shall receive a thousand times more, than his labor deserveth. The words you add, (you are never the nearer heaven, only believe) are yours, and none of ours: for we say with the Apostle, we must suffer with Christ, if we will reign with him, and the patient suffering of the faithful, is nothing repugnant to the justification before God, by faith only. To the last argument of the Apostles authority, I answer, our patient suffering worketh infinite weight of glory, not by the worthiness, merit, or desert of our suffering, but by the bountiful liberality of God, who hath promised so incomparable reward, to small tribulation, suffered for his sake. Wherefore all your five reasons notwithstanding, our translation is sound and true.

MART. 7. See you not a comparison between short and eternal, light tribulation, and exceeding weighty glory: and yet that one also worketh the other, that is, causeth, purchaseth, and deserveth the other? For, like as the little seed being not comparable to the great tree, yet causeth it and bringeth it forth: so our tribulations and good works otherwise incomparable to eternal glory, by the virtue of God's grace working in us, worketh, purchaseth, and causeth the said glory. For so they know very well the Greek word importeth: though here also they translate it most falsely, prepareth. Bib. an. 1577.

FULK. 7. We see the comparison well, but we see not, that worketh or causeth, is all one with purchaseth and deserveth. Your comparison of seed, and tribulation, is not like. For in the seed is the formal cause of the great tree, so is not the formal cause of eternal glory in our tribulation. But as if an Emperor for one days valiant service in war, do give unto his son one of his kingdoms, we may truly say, that days service wrought him this great reward, or caused him to be advanced to this kingdom: but we cannot say truly, it purchased or deserved a kingdom: for then everyone that served as well as he deserved the like reward: so is the reward of eternal life, which is the gift of God, incomparably greater than our tribulatiō, not by the desert of the sufferer, but by liberality of the giver. That translation, that useth the word of preparing, is not so proper, according to the word, but it differeth not much in sense, showing howe those afflictions do work, or cause, namely by preparing, & making us conformable to the sufferings of Christ.

MART. 8. Lastly, for moste manifest evidence, that these present tribulations and other good works are meritorious and worthy of the joys to come, though not comparable to the same: you shall hear the holy Doctors say both in one passage or sentence. S. Cyprian thus: O what manner of day shall come, my brethren, when our Lord shall recoūt the MERITES of everyone, and pay us the reward or stipend of faith and devotion? Ep. 56. here are merits and the reward for the same. It followeth in the said Doctor, What glory shall it be, and how great joy, to be admitted to see God, so to be honored that thou receive the joy of eternal life with Christ thy Lord God, to receive there that which neither eye hath seen, nor ear hath heard, nor hath ascended into the heart of man, for, that we shall receive greater things, than here either we do, or suffer, the Apostle pronounceth, saying, The passions of this time are not condign or comparable to the glory to come. Here we see, that the stipend or reward of the merits aforesaid, are incomparably greater than the said merits.

FULK. 8. For lack of Scriptures, you fly to the Doctors, to find merits, in whom nevertheless being Catholic, and sound Doctors, you shall sooner find the word Meritum, than your meaning of it. The place of Cyprian, I marvel why you geld, except it be to join the reward that he speaketh of, with the word merits, which he useth, either generally for works, as it is often used in the ancient writers: or if he mean thereby deserts, he speaketh but of examination only of all men's deserts, that he may give to the wicked that they have deserved,

and to the godly that which he hath promised, therefore he calleth it the reward of their faith and devotion. His words are these: O diesille qualis & quantus aduenies, fratres dilectissimi, cum caeperit populum suum dominus recensere, & diuinae cognitionis examine singulorum meritum recognoscere, mittere in gehennam nocentes & persecutores nostros, flammae paenalis perpetuo ardore damnare, nobis vero mercedem fidei & deuotionis exoluere. O that day what manner a one and how great shall it come, my dearest beloved brethren, when the Lord shall begin to recount his people, and by examination of his divine knowledge consider the merits of everyone, to send into hell fire the guilty, and to condemn our persecutors with perpetual burning of penal flame? but unto us to pay the reward of faith and devotion.
The reward of faith is not that which belief deserveth: but which it looketh for, according to God's promise, whereunto it leaneth.
For in respect of desert of God's favor, he saith, and bringeth diverse texts for proof: Fidem tantum prodesse & tantum nos posse quantum credimus. That faith only doth profit, and that so much we can do, how much we believe.
Wherefore, we see not in Cyprian the incomparable glory to be a reward of deserts.

MART. 9. Likewise S. Augustine: The exceeding goodness of God hath provided this, that the labors should soon be ended, but the rewards of the MERITES should endure without ende: the Apostle testi fying, THE PASSIONS OF THIS TIME ARE NOT COMPARABLE &c. For we shall receive greater bliss, than are the afflictions of all passions whatsoever. Thus we see plainly, that short tribulations are true merits of endless glory, though not comparable to the same: which truth you impugn by your false and heretical translation. But let us see further your dealing in the self same controversy, to make it plainer that you bend your translations against it, more than the text of the Scripture doth permit you.

FULK. 9. A man may see you are drivē to extreme shifts, when you will seek Praemia meritorum, in S. Augustine, & can find it nowhere, but among the Sermones de sanctis, which bear no credit of Augustine's works: but of some later gatherer. The true Augustine in Ps. 70. Con. 1. thus writeth.

Nihil es per te, deum inuoca, tua peccaia sunt, merita dei sunt, supplicium tibi debetur▪ & cum premium venerit, sua dona coronabit non merita tua▪ Thou art nothing by thyself, call upon God, thine are the sins, the merits are God's, to thee punishment is due, and when the reward shall come, he will crown his gifts not thy merits. Finally Augustine in nothing is more earnest than in denying the reward which is of grace,
to be due in respect of merit or worthiness of works.

MART. 10. In the book of wisdom, where there is honorable mention of the merits of Saints and their rewards in heaven, you translate the holy Scripture thus: God hath proved them, and findeth them MEETE FOR HIM SELFE. To omit here that you use the present tense, whereas in the Greek they are preter tenses (God knoweth why, only this we know, that it is no true nor sincere translation) but to wink at smaller faults, why say you here in all your Bibles, that God findeth his Saints and holy servants meet for him self, and not, worthy of him self? See your partiality, and be ashamed.

FULK. 10. The book of wisdom writ̄ by Philo the Jew, as S. Jerome thinketh, is no holy Canonical Scripture, to cōfirm the credit of any article of belief. Therefore whether he thought that men's merits were worthy of the favor and grace of God, & the reward of eternal life, or no, it is not material. But somewhat it is that you say, that our translators for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 have not translated worthy, but meet. For my parte, I wish they had retained the usual signification of that word, and said worthy of him self, only to take away your cavil. For otherwise in the sense, there is no difference, if that he saith be true, none is meet for God, but they that are worthy of him, which are not meet or worthy of thē selves, but made such by grace, not for merit of their works, but by the righteousness of Christ, imputed to them by faith. This if the wiseman meaneth not, but that their virtues were such as deserved God's favor and eternal life, we may boldly reject him, as going against the wisdom of God revealed in the Canonical Scriptures.

MART. 11. In the Apostles places before examined, you said negatively, that the afflictions of this time were NOT WORTHIS OF the glory to come, the Greek not bearing that translation: but here, when you should say affirmatively, and that word for word after the Greek, that God found them WORTHIE OF HIM SELFE, there you say, MEETE FOR HIM SELFE, avoiding the term, worthy, because merit is included therein. So that when you will in your translatiō deny merits, then condignae ad, signifieth worthy of: when you should in your translation affirm merits, then Dignus with an ablative case doth not signify, worthy of. No marvel if such willfulness will not see the word merit, or that which is equivalent thereto, in all the Scripture. For when you do see it, & should translate it, you suppress it by another word. But this is a case worthy of examination, whether the Scripture have the word, merit, or the equivalent thereof▪ For we will force them even by their own translations, to confess that it is found there, and that they should translate it accordingly often when they do not, yea, that if we did not see it in the vulgar Latin translation yet they must needs see it and find it in the Greek.

FULK. 11. In the Canonical Scripture it seemeth the translators had a religious care, to keep both the property of the words, and the true meaning of the holy Ghost. In the Apocryphal books, they had a wise consideration, to translate them according to the best meaning, that their words would bear. Now whether you say, worthy of God, or meet for God: you must understand this meetenesse, or worthiness, to be of grace, and not of merit: or else the saying is blasphemous against the grace of God. For merit is not necessarily included in worthiness. The Kings son is worthy to succeed his father▪ by right of inheritance, not by merit of virtue always. A stranger may be worthy of the kings service▪ which never deserved the kings entertainment but for such good qualities, as are in him. But after this tedious trifling, it would somewhat awake our spirits▪ if you could (as you threaten in the margent) prove the merit of good works plainly by the Scriptures: either by the word merit, which you can never do, or by anything that is equivalent unto it: and to force us by our own translations to confess, that it is found there, if not in the vulgar Latin yet in the Greek.

MART. 12. First when they translate the foresaid place thus, The afflictions of this time are not worthy of the glory to come: they mean this, deserve not the glory to come, for to that purpose they do so translate it, as hath been declared. Again, when it is said, The workemā is worthy of his hire or wages: What is meant, but that he deserveth his wages? And more plainly Tob. 9. they translate thus: Brother Azarias, if I should give myself to be thy servant, I shall not DESERVE thy providence. And such like. If then in these places, both the Greek and the Latin signify, to be worthy of, or, not to be worthy of▪ to deserve, or, not to deserve: then they must allow us the same signification and virtue of the same words in other like places. Namely Apoc. 5. of our Saviors merits, thus: The lamb that was killed, IS WORTHY to receive power, and riches, &c. What is that to say, but, DESERVETH to receive? For so I trust they will allow us to say of our Savior, that he in deed deserved. Again, of the damned, thus: Thou hast given them blood to drink, for they ARE WORTHY, or, THEY HAVE DESERVED. is it not all one? lastly of the elect, thus: They shall walk with me in white, because they are worthy, Apocal. 3. that is, because they deserve it. And so in the place before by them corrupted, God found them worthy of him: that is, such as deserved to be with him in eternal glory. Thus by their own translation of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 and dignus, are plainly deduced, worthiness, desert, and merit of saints, out of the Scriptures.

FULK. 12. Your first foundation is false, therefore all your building falleth to the ground. For when we translate that text thus: The afflictions of this time, are not worthy of the glory to come, we mean not thus: deserve not the glory to come, but even as you do, they are not equal or comparable: but thereof it followeth, that they deserve not, for to deserve, is to do a thing equal unto the reward: the afflictions be not equal, therefore they deserve not. But when it is said the workman is worthy of his hire, we acknowledge that he deserveth his wages, yet we should not do well to translate it, that he deserveth his hire: because worthiness may be where there is no desert. Gold is worthy to be esteemed before silver, and yet there is no merit, or desert of gold, if we speak properly. That of Tob. 9. is not in the Greek, but in some Bibles translated out of Latin according to the usual phrase of English, rather than to the property of the word, where it is said Apoc. 5. The Lamb, that was killed, is worthy to receive power, and riches, though we will not contend of the deserts of Christ, yet we may be bold to say, that in respect of the godhead, he was worthy of all honor and glory from everlasting, before he had created anything: and therefore worthiness doth not always import desert, as no worthiness doth no desert. Likewise, when it is said of the wicked, Apoc. 16. they are worthy to drink blood, it is true, that they deserved that plague, because their cruel works were justly recompensed with that punishment: but yet some may be worthy of their punishment, that have not deserved it. The son of a traitor, is worthy to bear the punishment of his fathers attainder; yet he hath not always deserved it by his own deeds. Therefore it is not all one: they are worthy, and they have deserved. The infants of the reprobate, as soon as they have life▪ are worthy of eternal damnation, and yet they have not deserved the same, by their own deeds. Therefore where it is said of the elect, They shall walk with me in white, because they are worthy, it is not meant, that they have deserved by their own works, to walk with Christ: but because they are made worthy by Christ, who hath given them grace, not to defile their garments, who also shall give them the reward of white garments, that is, of innocence, which no man can deserve, because no man is clear from sin, but only by forgiveness of sins, in the blood of Christ. Therefore you have performed nothing less, than your promise, which was to prove the equivalent of merit, out of the Scripture, and to force us, by our translation, to confess the same. Fos worthiness doth not always argue or enforce desert▪ as desert doth worthiness, worthiness being a more general word, than merit or desert.

MART. 13. But to proceed one step further, we prove it also to be in the Scriptures, thus. Them selves translate thus, Heb. 10. 29. Of howe much sorer punishment shall he be worthy, which treadeth under foot the son of God? though one of their Bibles of the year 1562. very falsely and corruptly, leaveth out the words, worthy of, saying thus. How much sorer shall he be punished▪ &c: Fearing no doubt by translating the Greek word sincerely, this consequence that now I shall infer, to wit, If the Greek word here, by their own translation, signify to be worthy of, or, to deserve, being spoken of pains and punishment deserved: then must they grant us the same word so to signify elsewhere in the new Testament, when it is spoken of deserving heaven, and the kingdom of God. as in these places, Luc. 21. Watch therefore▪ all times praying, that you MAY BE WORTHIE to stand before the son of man. and, c. 20. THEY THAT ARE WORTHY to attain to that world, and to the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are married. and, 2. Thess. 1. That you may BE WORTHYE of the kingdom of God, for which also ye suffer.

FULK. 13. You think to have great advantage at our translation of the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Heb. 10. shall be worthy: which is true according to the sense, but not so proper for the word, which signifieth rather to be judged, or accounted worthy, whether he be worthy in deed, or not. And so it should have been translated, if the nature of the word had been exactly weighed. But the translators looked rather to the purpose of the Apostle, which is by all means to terrify such contemners and backeslyders, of whom he speaketh. The Greek word therefore doth not signify to deserve, but to be judged worthy, although it is true, that those of whom the Apostle there speaketh, deserved extreme pains of damnation. And even so it signifieth in all other places, as Luc 20. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , they that shall be counted worthy to attain to that world. and, Luc. 21. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , that you may be counted worthy and, 2. Thess. 1. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , that you may be counted worthy. And so the word doth signify in other places, without controversy, as Luc. 7. the Centurion said, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , I accounted not myself worthy. and, 1. Tim. 5. The Elders that govern well, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , let them be counted worthy of double honor. For it is the imperatiue mode, therefore it is a fault in our translations, to make it the indicatiue. For we cannot say, let them be worthy, or let them be made worthy: but let them be judged, reputed, or accounted worthy.

MART. 14. Thus you should translate in all these places, according to your translation of the former place to the Hebrews: or at the leastwise you should have this sense & meaning, as the old vulgar Latin hath, translating in all these places, counted worthy, but meaning worthy in deed: as when it is said, Abraham was reputed just, it is meant, he was just in deed. If you also have this meaning in your translations, which here follow the vulgar Latin: then we appeal to yourselves, whether, to be counted worthy, and to be worthy, and to deserve, and to merit, be not all one: and so here also Merite is deduced. But if you mean according to your heresy, to signify by translating. counted worthy, that they are not in deed worthy: then your purpose is heretical, and translation false, and repugnant to your translating the same word in other places, as is declared, and now further we will declare.

FULK. 14. I have shown you howe we should translate that word in any place▪ wheresoever it is red, even as the vulgar Latin hath in the places by you noted▪ and in those three texts, Luc. 20. 21. 2. Thess. 1. We mean not falsely counted worthy, but worthy in deed, as when it is said, that Abraham was reputed just, we acknowledge that he was truly so reputed, and that he was just in deed. But where you appeal to our consciences, whether to be counted worthy, and to be worthy, and to deserve, and to merit, be not all one. I answer you plainly▪ and according to my conscience, they be not. But even as Abraham was reputed just, and was just in deed, not by desert, but by faith, so in those three texts, the faithful are counted worthy, and are worthy in deed, not by their merit, and desert, but for Jesus Christ's sake. For herein your heresy is greatly deceived, to imagine, that he which is just by Christ, by faith, or by imputation, is not truly just, or not just in deed. For Christ, faith, and imputation, are not contrary, or opposed to truth, but to merit or desert of the party, that is just by Christ, by faith, or by imputation, and so we say of them that are accounted worthy for Christ's sake, and not for their own merits.

MART. 15. They whom God doth make worthy, they are truly and in deed worthy: are they not? but by your own translation of the same word in the active voice, God doth make them worthy. Therefore in the passive voice it must also signify to be made, or to be in deed worthy. For example, 2. Thess. 1, 11. You translate thus, we also pray for you, THAT OUR GOD MAY MAKE YOU WORTHY of this calling. According to which translation, why did you not also in the self same chapter, a little before, translate thus: That you MAY BE MADE WORTHY (and so be worthy) of the kingdom of God, for which also you suffer? You know the case is like in both places, and in the Greek Doctors you specially▪ should know (by your ostentation of reading them in Greek) that they according to this use of holy Scripture, very often use also this word, both actively and passively, to make worthy, and, to be made, or, to be worthy. See the Greek Liturgies.

FULK. 15. They must needs be worthy, whom God maketh worthy: but then are they not worthy by their merits or deserts, but by his grace in Jesus Christ, & so our translators mean, when they say, 2. Thess. 1. 11. that our God may make you worthy of this calling, although the clearer translation had been, that God may account you worthy, as the vulgar Latin hath, vt dignetur. For dignor is not to make worthy, but to vouchsafe, or to account worthy. Wherefore, you do vainly here snatch at a word, contrary to the meaning, both of the translator, and of the text. For those whom God maketh worthy, are not worthy by their desert, but by his grace accepting them. How the Greek Doctors use the word, it is not now the question, but how it signifieth in the Scripture: although I see not how you prove that the doctors use it, to make worthy, or to be made worthy by desert.

MART. 16. Which Saint Chrysostom, to put all out of doubt, explicateth thus in other words, That he make us worthy of the kingdom of heaven. Ser. 1. de orando Deo. And upon the Epistle to Titus cap. 3. in the same sense passively, God grant we may all BE MADE WORTHY (or be worthy) of the good things promised to thē that love him. And in another place of the said Doctor it must needs signify, to be worthy▪ as when he saith, In Colos. 1. No man liveth such a trade of life, that he is worthy of the kingdom, but all is his gift. For to say thus, No man so liveth that he can be counted worthy of the kingdom of heaven: is false, is against the Protestants own opinion, which say they are counted worthy, that are not. Again, to say, No man so liveth that he can be made worthy: is false, because God can make the worst man worthy. It remaineth then to say, No man so liveth that he is worthy. Which a little before he declareth thus, No man by his own proper merits obtaineth the kingdom of heaven, that is, as his own, and of him self without the grace of God. And yet we must show further out of the Scriptures, that God maketh us worthy, and so we are in deed worthy, and here also we must convince you of false and partial interpretation.

FULK. 16. Saint Chrysostom putteth not the matter any whit out of doubt, for your side. For he doth not expound this text of 2. Thess. 1. But only in the later end of his Sermon prayeth, that God having mercy upon us all, will make us worthy of his kingdom. Where you might have seen, if you had not been blind with frowardness, that God maketh us worthy, by his mercy, not by our merits. That 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in his prayer upon the 3. to Titus is taken to be made worthy, rather than to be accounted worthy, you have no proof, but your own authority: although for God to make worthy by his mercy, & to account worthy, is all one in effect. The third place▪ in Epist. ad Col. cap. 1. is altogether against you. Where he saith, no man liveth such a trade of life, that he may be judged or accounted worthy of that kingdom, but all is the gift of God. Is not his meaning plain, that no man can be accounted worthy by works or merits, but altogether by the grace and gift of God?

With this distinction therefore which is plain, even by those words which you cite, that Chrysostom maketh, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , without any inconvenience▪ may signify in this place, to be accounted worthy. No man by his own proper merits obtaineth the kingdom of heaven (saith he) but even as a lot is rather by hap & chance, so it is here: meaning that God giveth his kingdom no more according to man's deserts, than lots do fall to men by chance, which yet God disposeth, as it pleaseth him. Finally, the whole discourse of the Doctor being against man's merits, using the word in the same place so often of God's dignation, vouchsafing or accounting worthy, you had great scarcity of examples out of the Doctors, that bring this place to prove that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signifieth to be made worthy by merit, and not by mere mercy.

MART. 17. The Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 (I pray you) what doth it signify you must answer that it signifieth not only, meet, but also, worthy. For so Beza reacheth you, and so you translate Mat. 3. 11. & cap. 8. & 1. Cor. 15. 9. I am not worthy, in all three places. And why (I pray you) did you not likewise follow the old Latin interpreter one step further, saying, Giving thanks to God the father THAT HATH MADE VS WORTHIE, but translating rather thus, Which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the Saints in light. Here was the place where you should have shown your sincerity, & have said that God maketh us worthy of heavenly bliss. Because you know if 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 be worthy, then 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is to make worthy. But you are like to Beza your Master, who (as though all interpretation of words were at his commandment) saith, here and here and so forth I have followed the old Latin interpreter, translating it, worthy: but in such and such a place (meaning this for one) I choose rather to say, MEETE. But that both he & you should here also have translated, worthy, the Greek fathers shall teache you, if we be not worthy▪ or able to control so mighty Grecians, as you pretend to be when you crowe upon your own dunghill, otherwise in your translations showing small skill, or great malice.

FULK. 17. If you be not able to draw merit out of word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which properly signifieth worthy: you shall have somewhat a do to wring it out of the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which properly signifieth, apt, or meet, and sometime sufficient, according to which later signification, Beza in three places translateth dignus, because sufficiens is no Latin word in that sense to be used. But now you ask, why we went not a step further▪ to translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Collos. 1. v. 12. which hath made us worthy. I answer you, first there is no reason that a word which hath diverse significations, should always be translated after one. Secondly, when a word hath one most usual signification, and two or three other significations not so usual: by translating it once or twice according to the sense of the place, after one of the best usual significations, we are not bound to give over the most common and usual signification, when the sense of the place requireth it. Thirdly, when a verb is derived of a noun that hath diverse significations, it signifieth most commonly after the most usual signification, as 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , sometime signifieth cheap, we must not thereof conclude, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signifieth to make cheap. So 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , signifieth sometime great, or much, you may as well say, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , signifieth to magnify, to make great, or to multiply: which none but a mad man would say: and yet you think you have made a great argument, when you say, if 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 be worthy, then 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is to make worthy. It remaineth therefore, that seeing the most usual signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , is apt or meet, the true and best signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , is to make apt or meet, which we have followed in our translation. But if you will still contend that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , is all one with 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , then you must tell us, as you require us often, whether 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , be as good Greek, as 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , if you would say, worthy of death. Beza therefore followeth not his pleasure, where he chooseth to say, for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Idoneum, but the nature of the word, and the usual signification thereof▪ compared with the sense of the place. And if we should follow your vulgar Latin translation, and say, that God hath made us worthy to be partakers of the inheritance of the Saints in light, you are never the narre for your merits. For God maketh us worthy by his grace, and by the righteousness and holiness of Christ, which is imputed to us being incorporated to him, and made lively members of his mystical body. Howe vainly you charge the translators, with bragging, unskillfulness, and malice, they that are learned can judge, and God will one day revenge it.

MART. 18. The Greek fathers (I say) interpret the Apostles word here, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . that is, hath made us worthy, and given us the grace to be worthy. And S. Basil in orat. Liturg. making both Greek words all one, saith, THOU HAST MADE VS WORTHIE to be ministers of thy holy altar. And anon after, MAKE VS WORTHY for this ministry. And Saint Chrysostom upon the Apostles place. God doeth not only give us society with the Saints, but maketh us also worthy to receive so great dignity. And here is a goodly consideration of the goodness of God toward us, that doeth in deed by his grace make us worthy of so great things, who otherwise are most unworthy, vile, and abject. Which making of us worthy, is expressed by the said Greek words, more than by the Latin, mereri, because it declareth whence our merit and worthiness proceedeth▪ to wi , of God. Both which S. Chrysostom expresseth excellently, thus: When he brought in Publicans to the kingdom of heaven, he defamed not the kingdom of heaven, but magnified it also with great honors, showing that there is such a Lord of the kingdom of heaven, which hath made even unworthy persons to be so much better, that they should deserve even the glory of that dignity. And Oecumenius saith, that it is God's glory, TO MAKE HIS SERVANTS WORTHY of such good things: and that it is their glory, TO HAVE BENE MADE WORTHY of such things, in 2. Thess. 1.

FULK. 18. If the Greek fathers did so interpret the Apostles words, yet your merit is to seek, as I have said. For I will not contend, whether God make us worthy, but whether he make us worthy by desert of our good works, or by his mercy, & grace, in the redemption of his son. But let us see what the fathers say to the matter. First Oecumenius words are flat against you, if they be truly translated, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , he hath counted us worthy, and hath freely granted unto us to be meet. See you not, that all our worthiness and meetenes dependeth of his grace, and free acceptation? The Liturgy entitled of Basel, although it have a much younger author, maketh never a whit more for you. The minister prayeth that God would account him worthy, or make him meet for the ministry. And if you should in both places translate, that God maketh worthy, you cā not prove merit thereby: but contrariwise it soundeth against merit, for God maketh us not worthy by our deserts, but by the worthiness of Christ. Chrysostom also, as I have shown before upon this place, doth utterly condemn your opinion of merits, for he saith,

Suche are the things that are given, that he hath not only given them, but also made us able to receive them. Again, he hath not only given us the honor, but also strength to embrace it. What is our strength? what is our ability, to receive the gifts of God, but faith in the merits of Christ?
The place of Chrysostom, Hom. de cruce & latrone, is not be be understood of deserving by works, but by the grace of God, and remission of their sins, which maketh men meet and worthy of his glory: as the example of the Publican, justified only by remission of his sins, and of the harlot saved by faith, which he useth, doth plainly declare. And yet sanctification, and the fruits of good life, are not excluded from the persons justified, and saved, but only merit or desert of works, according to which, as the same Chrysostom saith, in ep. Col. 1. we must say, we are unprofitable servants, when we have done all that is commanded us. But this is no place, to handle controversies of religion, but translations of the Scripture. The word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , except you bring us better evidence, than yet we see any, in all places where we read it, we may translate it dignari, which is to vouchsafe, or account worthy.

MART. 19. Thus we see howe the holy Scripture useth equivalent words to signify, merit, which you suppress as much as you can. So likewise we might tell you of other words and phrases that do plainly import and signify merit. As when it is said Ecclesiastici 16. Every man shall find according to his works. Budee both your Master and ours in the Greek tongue, telleth us that the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 (to find) is proprely to receive for that which a man hath given or labored. And to require you with some profane authority, (because you delight much in that kind,) the whole oration of Demosthenes 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , will tell you the same. Now, to receive for that which a man hath labored or wrought, what doth it else presuppose, but merit and desert? It is a common phrase of the Scripture, that God will judge and reward or repay according to every man's works. Doth not this include merit and demerit of works? but I wote not howe, nor wherefore, in this case you translate sometime, deeds, for works, saying▪ Who will reward every man according to his deeds. And again, You see then howe that of deeds a man is justified, and not of faith only.

FULK. 19. We do not yet see, that the holy Scriptures used any word aequiualent to merit, whereby it might be gathered, that we are justified or saved by merit of good works. But you have other words and phrases, that do plainly import and signify merit, as in Ecclesiasticus 16. every man shall find according to his works. Where you put us in mind, what our Master Budee writeth of the proper signification of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , that is, to deserve, bringing example therefore, out of Demosthenes oration 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . But I pray you, doeth our said Master affirm this to be the only signification of that verb? Where he bringeth you the example out of Gregory, of Saul, which seeking his fathers Asses 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 found a kingdom, doeth he mean that by seeking his fathers Asses, he deserved a kingdom? Again, the example he bringeth out of Saint Luke, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , thou hast found favor or grace with God: doeth he understand, that the virgins Marie deserved the grace of God? But you object, that it is a common phrase of the Scripture, that God will judge or reward, or repay to every man according to his works. It is true, but not to everyone according to his merits, for then all should be damned, for all have deserved death: and no man should be saved, for no man meriteth salvation. But God rendereth to the faithful according to their works, when he freely giveth for Christ's sake eternal life to them, that by perseueraunce of good works (as the Apostle saith) seek glory, honor, and incorruptiō. Their works therefore, are the fruits of his grace. not the merits or deserts of his grace by which we are saved: Eph. 2. But here again you quarrel, that for works, we say sometimes deeds, as though they were not all one. Or if they be not, why do you, 1. Cor. 5. translate Qui hoc opus fecit, that hath done this deed.

MART. 20. I know you will tell us that you use to say deeds or works indifferently, as also you may say, that you put no difference between just and righteous, meet and worthy, but use both indifferently. To the ignorant this is a fair answer, and shall soon persuade them: but they that see further, must needs suspect you, till you give a good reason of your doing. For, the controversy being of faith and works, of justice and justification by works, of the worthiness or valure of works: why do you not precisely keep these terms pertaining to the controversy, the Greek words being always pregnant in that signification? Why should you once translate the Greek 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , deeds, rather than, works. You know it is properly, works, as, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , deeds. It were very good in matters of controversy to be precise. Beza maketh it a great fault in the old vulgare Latin translator, that he expresseth one Greek word in Latin diverse ways. You choppe & change significations here and there as you list, and you think you satisfy the reader marvelous well, if sometime you say idol, & not always, images: sometime just, and not always righteous: and if in other places you say works, or if one Bible hath works, where another hath deeds, you think this is very well, and will answer all the matter sufficiently. God and your conscience be judge herein, and let the wise reader consider it depely. The least thing that we demand the reason of, rather than charge you with all, is, why your Church Bible saith in the places before alleged. The righteous judgment of God, which will reward every man according to his deeds. and, man is justified by deeds, and not by faith only. Whereas you know the Greek is more pregnant for us than so, & the matter of controversy would better appear on our side, if you said thus: The IVST judgment of God▪ which will reward every man according to his WORKES, and, Man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

FULK. 20. If you could tell us what advantage our doctrine might have, by translating deeds rather than works, it might be suspected why some translations use the one, rather than the other: but seeing you cannot imagine, nor any man else, what it should a •• ile us, to use the one rather than the other, it may be reasonably thought, that the translators meant no subtlety, especially when in places of like apparāce for our assertion, they use the word deeds also. As Gal. 2. v. 16. A man is not justified by the deeds of the law, but by faith of Jesus Christ, where the Greek word is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 as well as in S. James. But where you say that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 is proper for deeds▪ you were best call the seconde book of S. Luke, The deeds of the Apostles. The fault that Beza findeth with the vulgar Latin translation is, that in diverse places, he translateth one word diverse ways, and them differing. For otherwise to translate for 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 sometimes Gladius, & sometimes En i , it were no fault, no more than it is in us to use the words justice and righteousness▪ works and deeds, faith and belief, trust and confidence, &c. And you yourselves in such words do often use the same liberty.

MART. 21. But will you not yet see merit and meritorious works in the Scripture? I marvel your skill in the Greek teacheth you nothing in this point. S. John saith: Look to yourselves, that you lose not the things which you have wrought, but that you may receive a full reward. Me thinketh, in these words the equivalent of merit is easily seen of any man that is not willfully blind. But you should see further thā the common sort. For you know that the Greek here signifieth▪ not only that which we work, but that which we work for. At in the Greek phrase of working for a man's living, and as you translats Io. 6. v. 27. LABOVR NOT FOR THE MEATE that perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto life everlasting. Such laborers God hired to work in his vineyard, & the workman is worthy of his hire. So that the Apostle in the former words exhorteth to perseverance, that we lose not the reward or pay, for which we work and which by working we merit and deserve.

FULK. 21. You fare with us, as a merry fellow did with his friends, of whom Erasmus telleth, who affirming that he saw in the sky a fiery dragon, with often asking them if they did not see it, he induced them at length, everyone to confess they saw it, least they should have been thought to be purblind. But in good earnest, & in my conscience, I see no more merit in the Scriptures, than I did before. Yea I have this argument more, to persuade me that it is not found in the Scriptures, because the chiefest patrons thereof, having taken such pains to find it, are now as far from it, as ever they were. But to the matter, I say there is no merit included in the saying of S. John, although you rehearse it in the seconde person, after the vulgar Latin translation, and not after the Greek, which is in the first person, and may be referred to the reward of the Apostles, which shall be full, if they whom they have converted to the faith, do persevere unto the ende. But make it as strong for your parte as you can, the full reward is given according to the moste bountiful promise of God, to our good works, of his mere mercy and grace, and not by desert of our works. And the parable of the laborers, whom God hired into his vineyard, declareth moste evidently, that the reward is of grace, not of merit. For if it were of merit, they that came first early in the morning, should have received more, as their labor was greater, than they which came at the last hour. Where our Savior Christ saith▪ the workman is worthy of his hire, he teacheth his Disciples, that they may lawfully take meat and drink of them to whom they preach, according to that common saying, or Proverb. But thereof it followeth not, that everyone which worketh in God's vineyard, is worthy for his works sake, and by desert of his labor, of eternal glory, for he promiseth greater reward to his workmen, a thousand fold and more, than their labor doth deserve▪ So that yet we see not, that we merit and deserve by working, although we receive reward for our work▪ or according to our works. Vnde mihi tantum meriti (saith a godly father) cui indulgentia est pro coron ? whence should I have so great merit when pardon or mercy is my crown.

MART. 22. Again Beza telleth us, that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 signifieth mercedem quae meritis respondet, that is, a reward answereable to the merits. And we find many words in the Scripture like unto this, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , Which are on God's parte, who is the rewarder▪ and recompenser. And on our parte we have (as the Apostle saith, Hebr. 10. and 4.) great confidence, confidence (saith Photios a notable Greek father) of our works, confidence of our faith, of our temptations, of our patience, &c. Yea we have 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 & 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in the Scripture, which must needs signify as much as Beza's 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 By the one, is said, In keeping thy commandments is great reward. Again▪ You shall receive THE RETRIBVTION of inherimunce. Col. 3. v. 24. And 2. Thessal. 1. v. 6. God's repaying just and reiribution of Hell or Heaven for good and evil deser es▪ is expressed by the same word. And by the other, is said, I have inclined my heart to keep thy justifications (or commandments) always FOR REWARD.

FULK. 22. If you can find 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in the Scripture, you convince us of merit by Beza's judgment. Therefore, tell us I pray you, in what book and chapter we shall find it. First you tell us, that you find many words like unto it. Yea, but neither the same, nor any that is aequiualent. For rendering of reward▪ which all your words do signify, may be according to promise by grace: and not by desert. The confidence of our works, that Photios speaketh of, must be understood as they are testimonies of God's sanctifying spirit, or else it is contrary to the Scripture. The parable told against them that trusted in themselves, that they are righteous, whereas we must confess, that we are unprofitable servants in all our obedience, and best works that we do. Yea but you have 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 in the Scripture, which must needs signify as much as Beza's 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Who will yield to this necessity? If a man promise a laborer 20. shillings for every days work, the rendering of this wages may be called 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , or 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and yet no man will say, that a days labor deserveth twenty shillings. That there is great reward promised for them that keep God's commandments, we confess: but this reward is either of merit, if they perfectly keep all God's commandments, which no man doth: or of mercy, if being justified by faith through remission of their sins, they endeavor according to the measure of God's grace, given unto them, to keep God's commandments in some parte, as God giveth strength. In the testimony of S. Paul, the word of inheritance following immediately after the word of reward, or retribution, excludeth merits: for the inheritance dependeth of God's free adoption, by which he maketh us his sons, that he may give us that inheritance, which we can never deserve. In the other place the Apostle promiseth reward of glory, to them that suffer for Christ's name: which God having promised of his mere mercy to give us, and the same being purchased for us by the merits of our Savior Christ: it is as just before God to render unto us, as to repay the wicked with eternal condemnation, according to their merits. So that the merits of Christ, and his satisfaction, plead for us in all rewards, and not the merits of our good works, which yet are not ours, but God's gifts in us. That you allege out of the Psalm, followeth afterward to be considered.

MART. 23. But all this will not suffice you. For wheresoever you can possibly, you will have an evasion. And therefore in this later place you run to the ambiguity of the Hebrew word, and translate thus: I have applied my heart to fulfill thy statutes always, EVEN VNTO THE ENDE. Alas my masters, are not the Seuentie Greek Interpreters sufficient to determine the ambiguity of this word? is not S. Jerome, in his translation according to the Hebrew? are not all the ancient fathers both Greek and Latin? It is ambiguous (say you) and therefore you take your liberty. You do so in deed, & that like Princes. For in another place, where the Greek hath determined, you follow it with all your heart, saying, fall down before his footstool, because he is holy: whereas the ambiguity of the Hebrew, would have borne you to say, as in the vulgar Latin, because it is holy, and so it maketh for holiness of places, which you cannot abide.

FULK. 23. You need not be half so earnest, for the word of reward, in that verse of the Psalm, which we translate unto the ende: for if it were granted unto you, that for which you make so much of it, the merit of good works will never be established by it. For reward, as I have often said, and plainly proved, doth not of necessity import the merit or desert of him that is rewarded: but often times the liberality & bountifulness of the rewarder, which for small labor giveth wonderful great reward. Now concerning the translation of this word yekebh, the Seuentie Interpreters, nor yet S. Jerome, are sufficient to determine the ambiguity in this place, more than in an hundred other places, where our translations depart from their judgment. But it is still free for men of every age, to use the gift of knowledge, and interpretation of tongues, unto the exact finding out of the true meaning of the holy Ghost in the Scriptures. Neither do we join with them, only for advantage, as you fondly charge us, but as I have shown you reason in the example you bring, so is there reason also to be shown, wheresoever we either join with them, or depart from them. Where you say, we cannot abide holiness of places, it is false, for we do acknowledge the holiness of all places, which you can prove, that God hath sanctified, as he did the Ark, the temple, the tabernacle, &c.

MART. 24. But you use (you say) the ambiguity of the Hebrew. Take heed that your liberty in taking all advantages, against the common and approved interpretation of the whole Church, be not very suspicious. For if it do signify also reward, as (you know) it doth very commonly, and yourself so translate it, (Psal. 18. v. 11.) when you cannot choose: and if the Septuaginta do here so translate it in Greek, and S. Jerome in his Latin translation, according to the Hebrew, & the ancient fathers in their commentaries: what upstart new masters are you that set all these to school again, and teach the world a new translation? If you will say, you follow our own great Hebrician, Sanctes Pagninus. Why did you follow him in his translation, rather than in his Lexicon called The saurus, where he interpreteth it as the whole Church did before him? Why did you follow him (or Benedictus Arias either) in this place, and do not follow them in the self same case, a little before translating that very Hebrew word, which is in this place, propter retributionem, for reward? So that you follow nothing, neither judgment, nor learning, in Hebrew or Greek, but only your own error and heresy, which is, that we may not do well in respect of reward, or, for reward, and therefore because the holy Prophet David said of him self the contrary, that he did bend his whole heart to keep God's commandments for reward, you make him say another thing.

FULK. 24. If Sanctes Pagninus, Benedictus Arias, and Isidorus Clarius, be upstart new Masters in your judgment, because they depart here from the Septuaginta, and Saint Jerome, we poor men must look for small favor at your hands. But because you say we follow nothing, neither judgment nor learning, in Hebrew or Greek, but only our own error and heresy: I will set down the judgment of Isidorus Clarius, upon this place, who translateth it, as all the Hebritians of this age do, and yieldeth his reasons in these words. Inclinaui cor meum. \]

Accommodaui animum meum, vt opere praestem praecepta tua, &c. I have inclined my heart.\] I have applied my mind, that in work or deed, I might perform thy commandments, even unto the ende of my life. For that word, propter retributionem, for reward, the Hebrew words have not: and truly it is to be taken away, for it is too servile a thing, and not worthy of so great a Prophet, to give diligence to God's commandments for reward, and hope of retribution. For that is the part of an hireling, and of him which is unworthy the name of a son: neither can he be worthily called a Christian man, that serveth Christ with this mind. For what? if God should say so, that he would not reward us with any other retribution, seeing for this one thing, that we are created by him, we can never satisfy this debt, shall we refuse to serve him. Therefore we are bound to serve him with our whole mind, although he had decreed to thrust us into hell fire, both for that which we owe him, and for that we live only that time which we bestow in well doing, for they which give over them selves to all wicked works, by no means can be said to live. Yet there may be an interpretation of the Hebrew words, without such offense, so that it may be said, forever is the reward, as else where we read, in keeping of them is great reward. For by this means it is signified, that the fruit in deed of keeping God's law is very great, but yet that retribution is not the ende and scope, but the love of God. Let all indifferent Readers judge by this,
what just cause you have thus to rail, not only upon our translators, but also vpō all learned Papists, that have translated even so. And let the ignorant judge, what knowledge you have in the Hebrew tongue, which urge the false translation of the Seuentie, against the opinion and translation of all the learned Hebritians of this age, both Papists and Protestants: although it were no hard thing to prove, that the Greek text of the Psalms, which now we have, is none of the Seuenties translation, as even Lindanus might teach you, de opt. gen. l 3. . 6.

MART. 25. And to this purpose perhaps it is, (for other cause I cannot guess) that you make such a marvelous transposition of words in your translation, (Mat. 19.) saying thus: When the son of man shall sit in the throne of his majesty, ye that have followed me in the regeneration, shall sit also upon twelve scates. Whereas the order of these words both in Greek and Latin, is this: You that have followed me, in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit in his majesty, you also shall sit upon twelve seats. To follow Christ in the regeneration, is not easily understood what it should mean: but to sit with Christ in the regeneration, that is, in the resurrection, upon twelve seats, that is familiar and every man's interpretation, and concerneth she great reward that they shall then have, which here follow Christ, as the Apostles did.

FULK. 25. You look for faults very narrowly, that can espy but a comma wanting, although it be no impious sense to follow Christ in the regeneration; for the world by Christ was after a sort renewed, when the cause of the restauration thereof was performed, as for the reward, of which you have such a servile care, is expressed in sitting upon twelve seats, to judge the tribes of Israel. Wherefore there was no need, that you should fear the loss of your reward, by this transposition.

MART. 26. The like transposition of words is in some of your Bibles (Heb. 2. v. 9.) thus. We see JESUS crowned with glory and honor, which was a little inferior to the Angels, through the suffering of death. Whereas both in Greek and Latin, the order of the words is thus: Him that was made a little inferior to Angels, we see JESUS. through the passion of death, crowned with honor and glory. In this later, the Apostle saith, that Christ was crowned for his suffering death, and so by his death merited his glory. But by your translation, he saith that Christ was made inferior to Angels by his suffering death, that is (saith Beza) For to suffer death: and taking it so, that he was made inferior to Angels, that he might die, then the other sense is clean excluded, that for suffering death he was crowned with glory: and this is one place among other, whereby it may very well be gathered that some of you think that Christ him self did not merit his own glory and exaltation. So obstinately are you set against merits and meritorious works. To the which purpose also you take away man's free will, as having no ability to work toward his own salvation.

FULK. 26. Whether we say, Christ was crowned for his suffering, or Christ was made inferior to the Angels through his suffering, the sense of either of both is good and godly, and may stand with the place, neither doth the one of them exclude the other: although but one only can be the sense of the place. And if this be the place, by which you may gather, that some of us think, that Christ merited not his own glory, it is not worth a straw. We hold that Christ for him self needed not to merit, because he was the Lord of glory, but that he merited for us, to be exalted in our nature, for our salvation, it is so far off that we deny, that our whole comfort resteth in his merits, and in his glory, which he hath deserved for us, we hope to be glorified forever. When you make your transition to the next chapter, you say, we take away man's free will, as having none ability to work, by which it seemeth, that you do not only allow to man the freedom of his will, but also power to work whatsoever he will: so that he shall not only have a free will, but also a strength by the same to work towards his own salvation.

CHAP. X.

Heretical translation against FREE WILL.

Martin.

AGAINST free will your corruptions be these John. 1. 12. where it is said, As many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God: some of your translations say, he gave them prerogative to be the sons of God. Beza, dignity. Who protesteth that whereas in other places often he translated this Greke word, power and authority, here he refused both, in deed against free will, which he saith the Sophistes would prove out of this place, reprehending Erasmus for following them in his translation. But whereas the Greek word is indifferent to signify dignity, or liberty, he that will translate either of these, restraineth the sense of the holy Ghost and determineth it it to his own fancy. If you may translate, dignity: may not we as well translate it, liberty? Yes surely. For you know it signifieth the one as well as the other both in profane and Divine writers. And you can well call to mind 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , whence they are derived, and that the Apostle calleth a man's liberty of his own will, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Now then if potestas in Latin, and power in English, be words also indifferent to signify both dignity and liberty, translate so in the name of God, and leave the text of the Scripture indifferent as we do: and for the sense whether of the two it doth here rather signify, or whether it doth not signify both (as no doubt it doth, & the fathers so expound it) let that be examined otherwise. It is a common fauls with you and intolerable, by your translation to abridge the sense of the holy Ghost to one particular understanding, & to defeat the exposition of so many fathers, that expound it in another sense and signification. As is plain in this example also following.

Fulke.

SEeing you confess that the Greek word signifieth not only power, but also dignity, and that in this place it signifieth both, it can be no corruptiō, but the best and truest interpretation, to translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , dignity, for that includeth power, whereas power may be severed from dignity. Where you would have us use a word, that is ambiguous, whē the sense is clear by your own confession, you bewray your own corrupt affection, which desire to have the Scriptures so ambiguously or doubtfully translated, that the ignorant might receive no benefit of certain understanding by them. When a word hath diverse significations, a wise translater must weigh, which of them agreeth with the text in hand, & that to use: but not to seek ambiguous words, that may bring the matter in doubt, when the meaning to him is certain. As here you say, there is no doubt but it signifieth both, and yet you quarrel at our translation, which comprehendeth both, and urge the word of power, from which dignity may be severed, whereas frō dignity, power or ability or license cannot be divided.

MART. 2. The Apostle (1. Cor. 15. 10.) saith thus: I labored more aboūdantly than all they: yet not I, but the grace of god with me. Which may have this sense, not I, but the grace of God which is with me, as S. Jerome sometime expoundeth it: or this, not I, but the grace of God which labored with me. And by this later is most evidently signified, that the grace of God & the Apostle, both labored together, & not only grace, as though the Apostle had done nothing, like unto a block, forced only: but that the grace of God did so cōcur as the principal agent with all his labors, that his free will wrought withal. Against which truth and most approved interpretation of this place, you translate according to the former sense only, making it the very text, and so excluding all other senses and commentaries, as your Masters Calvin and Beza taught you, who should not have taught you if you were wise, to do that which neither they nor you can justify. They reprehend first the vulgar Latin interpreter for neglecting the Greek article, and secondly them that by occasion thereof, would by this place prove free will. By which their commentary they do plainly declare their intent and purpose in their translation, to be directly against free will.

FULK. 2.

S. Jerome favoring this translation of ours, as he doth in diverse places, lib. 2. adverse. Ioui. Gratia dei quae in me est, & lib. 2. adverse. Pelag. & ad Principē. Gratia dei quae mecū est.
The grace of god which is in me, or which is with me. I marvel why you count it among heretical corruptions, except you take S. Jerome for an heretic. By the later, you say it is signified, that y e grace of God, & the Apostle both labored together, although it be no proper speech to say, the grace of God laboreth, yet that you would have, is expressed before, where S. Paul saith, I have labored more than they all, which none but a block would understand, that he was forced like a block. The grace of God useth no violence, but frameth the will of man to obedience and service of God. But that S. Paul had of him self no free will to perform this labor, but that it was altogether of the grace of God, which gave him this will, he confesseth more plainly, than that it can be denied, where he saith, Not I. Whereby he meaneth, not that he was only helped by the grace of God, and did it not alone: but that he did nothing by his own strength, but altogether by the grace of God, which made him willing, which of nature was unwilling to set forth the Gospel, yea by froward zeal became a blasphemer and a persecutor thereof. Which grace gave him not only a will to promote the Gospel, but inspired him also with divine knowledge, by revelation, without study or hearing of other men: which gave him also strength to overcome so many difficulties, that no labor, nor travail, nor persecution, nor continuance of time, did make him weary, or faint in his labor. All this (I say) he doth ascribe wholly unto the grace of God. And this sense doth not make Paul a block, nor enforced by violence, but a willing, prompt, & painful laborer. But if you mean, that S. Paul had a free will, and strength of him self, which only was holpen by the grace of God, then is your sense abhominable Pelagianism, heresy, worthy to be trodden under feet, by all Christians, and of Calvin, and Beza moste justly reprehended, who are utter enemies to free will, that derogateth anything frō the grace of Christ, without whom we can do nothing: which text always choked the Pelagians, and so doth it their half faced brethren, the Papists.

MART. 3. But concerning the Greek article omitted in translation, if they were but Grammarians in both tongues, they might know that the Greek article many times cannot be expressed in Latin, and that this is one felicity and prerogative of the Greek phrase, above the Latin, to speak more briefly, commodiously, and significantly, by the article. What need we go to Terence, and Homer, as they are w nt? Is not the Scripture full of such speeches? Jacobus Zebedaei, Jacobus Alphaei, Judas Iacobi, Maria Cleophae, and the like. Are not all these sincerely translated into Latin, though the Greek article be not expressed? Can you express the article, but you must add more than the article, and so add to the text, as you do very boldly in such speeches through out the New Testament, yea you do it when there is no article in the Greek: as Io. 5. 36. and 1. ep. Io. 2, 2. Yea sometime of an heretical purpose: as Eph. 3. By whom we have boldness and entrance with the confidence which is by the faith of him, or, in him, as it is in other your Bibles. You say, confidence which is by faith, as though there were no confidence by works: you know the Greek beareth not that translation, unless there were an article after, confidence, which is not, but you add it to the text heretically. as also Beza doth the like (Rom. 8. 2.) and your Geneva English Testaments after him, for the here sit of imputative justice: as in his annotations he plainly deduceth, saying confidently, I doubt not but a Greek article must be understood, and therefore (for sooth) put into the text also. He doth the same in S. James, 2. v. 20. still debating the case in his annotations why he doth so, and when he hath concluded in his fancy, that this or that is the sense, he putteth it so in the text, and translateth accordingly. No marvel now, if they reprehend the vulgar Latin Interpreter, for not translating the Greek article in the place which we began to treat of, when they find articles lacking in the Greek text it self, and boldly add them for their purpose in their translation. Whereas the vulgar Latin interpretation is in all these places so sincere, that it neither addeth nor diminisheth, nor goeth one io e from the Greek.

FULK. 3. Concerning the omission of the Greek article, which Calvin and Beza reprove in the old translator, you make many words to no purpose: for they reprove him not for omitting it, where either it cannot, or it need not be expressed, but in this place, where both it may, and meet it is, that it should be expressed. But we (you say) to express the article, do add more than is in the text: yet in truth we add nothing, but that which is necessarily to be understood, as when we say James the son of Zebedee, where you had rather say James of Zebedee, as though you were so precise, that for necessary understanding, you would not add a word to the text, & yet you do very often, yea sometimes where no need is. As Act. 8. where the Latin is Curauerunt Stephanum, you translate it, they took order for Stephans funeral. Doth Curare signify to take order for a funeral? So likewise Luc. 10. Paeniterent, they had done penance. But to answer for our own doings. Io 5. v. 36. where Christ saith, I have a greater witness, than John's witness, why may not the article 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 be referred rather to 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , that is of necessity to be understood, than to 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . In the other place 1. John. 2. v. 2. the word sins, must needs be understood in the pronoun adjective ours. In the third text, where you accuse the translators of heretical purpose, the sense is all one, whether you add the article or no. For when the Apostle saith, by Christ we have boldness and entrance with confidence, by faith, howe can you understand confidence by works, and whether there be confidence by works or no, there can none be proved by this place. Where Beza understandeth an article, Rom. 8. whom our English translation doth follow, it is only to make that plain, which otherwise is necessarily to be understood. For there is no difference between these sayings. The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, & this, The law of the spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus, hath delivered me from the law of sin and death. The article or relative therefore declareth no more, but that the law of the spirit of life, is in Christ Jesus, which delivereth us. For both the text saith, in Christ Jesus, and it cannot be in any other to deliver us. For he saith not, The law of the spirit of life in us, but in Christ Jesus, and the next verse following doeth manifestly confirm the same, as every man may see that will consider it. Likewise James the seconde, wilt thou know O thou vain man, that faith without works is dead? If you say, the faith which is without good works is dead, is not that the meaning of the Apostle? Where he addeth immediately, that Abraham was justified by such a faith, as was fruitful of good works. And when he bringeth example of Devils faith, is it not manifest he speaketh of such a faith, as is utterly void of all good works? Where you say that Beza putteth the article into the text, and translateth it accordingly, you do most shamefully bely him. For to the original text, he addeth none of his own collection, but in his translation only, where he judgeth that according to the sense of the place, it must of necessity be understood: which if it be a fault in articles, it must be so in other words also, for like cause added. Then answer to your own translations, where beside those that I have noted before, which seem to proceed of some Popish purpose, you have added to your Latin authentical text. As in these examples, Mat. 8. Quid nobi & tibi? what is between us? Cap. 9. Confid , have a good heart. Cap. 22. Mal p rdet. he will bring to naught. Marc. 2. Post dios, after some days. Accumberet, he satte at meat. Luc. 17. Ab illo, more than he. Io. 12. Discumbentibus, them that satte at the table. Non quia de egenis pertinebat ad eum, not because he cared for the poor. Act. 9. Ecce ego Domine. Loe here I am Lord. cap. 10. gustare, to take somewhat, cap. 17. colentibus, that served God. Nobiliores eorum qui sunt Thessalonicae, more noble than they, that are at Thessalonica, Rom. 1. Vocatis sanctis, called to be Saints, &c.

MART. 4. But you will say in the place to the Corinthians, there is a Greek article, & therefore there you do well to express it. I answer first, the article may then be expressed in translation, when there can be but one sense of the same: secondly, that not only it may, but it must be expressed, when we cannot otherwise give the sense of the place. as Mat. 1, 6. Ex ea quae fuit Vriae. Where you see the vulgar interpreter omitteth it not, but knoweth the force and signification thereof very well. Mary in the place of S. Paul which we now speak of, where the sense is doubtful, and the Latin expresseth the Greek sufficiently otherwise, he leaveth it also doubtful and indifferent, not abridging it as you do, saying, the grace of God which is with me: nor as Calvin, gratia quae mihi aderat: nor as Illyricus, gratia quae mihi adest. Which two later are more absurd thā yours, because they omit & neglect altogether the force of the preposition, cum, which you express saying, with me But because you say, which is with me: you mean heretically as they do, to take away the Apostles cooperation and laboring together with the grace of God, by his free will: which is by the article and the preposition most evidently signified.

FULK. 4. You take vpō you to prescribe rules of trāslatiō, as though you were Prince of the Critici or Aerop gitae. But all reasonable men will confess that the article is so often̄ to be expressed, as it may, & maketh anything to the sense, and understanding of the place. But as for your rule, that it is not to be expressed in trāslatiō, when there may be more senses than one of the same, is so good a rule, that by the same reason, and by equity thereof, when so ever any word cometh in the text, that may have more senses than one, we must skippe it over, and not translate it at all, and so we shall leave out five hundred words in the New Testament. A better rule I take it to be, in all such cases, to examine what is most agreeable to the common phrase of the tongue, and the scope of the text in hand: according to which I say, the verb substantive is both more usual, and also more probable to be understood in this text 1. Cor. 15. than the participle 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 .

MART. 5. And here I appeal to all that have skill in Greek speeches and Phrases, whether the Apostles words in Greek sound not thus: I labored more abundantly than all they: yet not I, but the grace of God (that labored) with me. Understanding not the participle of Sum, but of the verb going before, as in the like case when our Savior saith, It is not you that speak, but the holy Ghost that speaketh in you. If he had spoken short thus, but the holy Ghost in you, you perhaps would translate as you do here, the holy Ghost WHICH IS IN YOU. But you see the verb going before is rather repeated, Not you speak, but the holy Ghost THAT SPEAKETH IN YOU. Even so, Not I labored, but the grace of God laboring with me, or, WHICH LABOVRED WITH ME. So prayeth the wise man Sap. 9, 10. Sende wisdom out of thy holy heavens, that she may be with me, and labor with me as yourselves translate. Bib. 1577.

FULK. 5. And I likewise appeal not only to all that have skill in Greek speeches and phrases: but to all them whose ears are accustomed to reasonable speachs, whether it be like that the Apostle would understand that participle, whereof (perhaps) there is no verb, for where shall we read 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 ? Secondly whether he would understand the participle of another verb adjective, than went before, for before he said 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Thirdly, whether he were so desirous to set forth his own cooperation with the grace of God, that he would express it with two prepositions, one in apposition, the other in composition. Fourthly, whether he meant to attribute anything to him self, whē, as it were correcting that which he said of laboring, he saith, yet not I, but the grace of God. Fifthly, whether he purposed to challenge any merit of the labor to him self, or make his labor anything separate or separable frō the grace of God, when he said before, by the grace of God I am that I am. Last of all whether his words being resolved, if this participle be added, they contain not a ridiculous tautology, or vain repetition. I have labored more than they all, vet not I, but the grace of God which labored together with me hath labored. To conclude in your example which you fain. Because you can find none to answer your fancy: if the words were as you suppose 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , we would and must if we did well, translate it thus. It is not you that speak but the holy Ghost. which is in you, and so understand, speaketh. The saying of Philo, or what so ever eloquent Jew that was, which gathered that book of wisdom, is not of such importance, that we need to seek any interpretation thereof, although it is certain, that by wisdom, he meaneth not the Son of God, the wisdom of the Father, but divine knowledge and understanding, which is a gift of his spirit, whereof he speaketh by a rhetorical Prosopopoea, or fiction of person.

MART. 6. And so the Apostle calleth him self and his fellow preachers, God's coadiutors, collabourers, or such as labor and work with God, which also you falsely translate, God's laborers, to take away all cooperation, and in some of your Bibles moste foolishly and peeuishly, as though you had sworn not to translate the Greek, We together are God's laborers. as well might you translate (Ro. 8, 17.) that we together be Christ's heirs: for that, which the Apostle saith coheirs, or joint heirs with him: the phrase and speech (as you know) in Greek being all one. So doth Beza most falsely translate, Vna viuificauit nos per Christum, for that which is plain in the Greek, He hath quickened us together with Christ, Where the English Bezites leave also the Greek, and follow our vulgar Latin translation rather than Beza, who goeth so wide from the Greek, that for shame they dare not follow him. Fie upon such hypocrisy and pretensed honor of God, that you will not speak in the same terms that the holy Scripture speaketh, but rather will teach the holy Ghost how to speak, in not translating as he speaketh. As though these phrases of scripture, men are God's coadiutors, coworkers with his grace, raised with Christ, coheirs with him, compartakers of glory with him, were all spoken to the dishonor of God and Christ, and as though these being the speeches of the holy Ghost him self, needed your reformatiō in your English translations. Otherwise if you mean well, and would say as we say, that what so ever good we do, we do it by God's grace, and yet work the same by our free will together with God's grace as the mover and helper and directer of our will: why do you not translate in the foresaid place of S. Paul accordingly?

FULK. 6. S. Paul saith 1. Cor. 3, 9. that he and Apollo are 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , joined together in the work and business of God, he saith not that they are helpers of God, for God needeth no help. A helper is of him that lacketh strength, which is blasphemous to say of God. Therefore even Faber Stapulensis (as Beza telleth you) reproveth that term adiutores, which your vulgar translator useth, and you yourself in favor of your heresy of freewill, do not translate, but fly to the Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , and say Coadiutors, which if you would express in English, signifieth fellow helpers of God. The word Cooperarij, which S. Augustine useth (as Beza also telleth you) may be referred to the joint labor of the ministers, in several offices of planting and watering. And although it be referred to God, that he as the Lord and Master, and they as the servants, altogether by his grace and strength, do work together, the sense is not evil, yet not proper for this place. Because the Apostle doth not here set out the dignity of the ministers, but abaseth their labor and submitteth all to God. For he had to do with them, that did attribute too much unto the ministers work, with whom it was unseasonable, to extol their labors, and make them coadiutors or fellow helpers of God. But contrariwise he ascribeth the fruit of all their labors to God, and to take away the Schisms that were among them, by depending of one minister more than another, declareth that they altogether are God's laborers, God's husbandmen, &c. In the other place 2. Cor. 6. v. 1. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , it is more proper to say; that the Apostles joined their labors unto Christ offering his grace, that it should not be received in vain. Where nevertheless the strength of man's free will, is not avouched, but the grace of God, who worketh by his ministers, giving them strength to labor, and fruit to their labors. Nexte followeth an open outcry against Beza, for false translation, & our translators, for being ashamed to follow him. If we mislike Beza's translation, are we by and by ashamed to follow him? And if his translation be false, as you affirm, and we ashamed to follow him in falsehood: do we deserve to be defied as hypocrites, because we prefer the truth before the credit of our master, as you call him. O how glad you are, when you have never so small an occasion to set abroad the sails of your railing, & reviling oration. But let us see, whether Beza deserve so much blame, as you charge him withal. Beza having translated (as he thought) most near to the Apostles meaning, Eph. 2. v. 5. in his annotation upon the place, thus writeth: Conuiuificauit, &c. The vulgar, and Erasmus translate, he hath quickened us together with Christ, which sense I do in no wise reprehend. But yet nothing shall be detracted from the self same matter, and perhaps it may be said more aptly, that the preposition 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , in this place, is used rather to declare the uniting together of the Gentiles and Jews in one Christ: after which manner, the word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , which signifieth to be built together, is afterward used, verse 22. This is Beza's judgment, not contrary to the common translation, and ours, but agreeing in the sense thereof, and comprehending a further matter, whereof the Apostle in that chapter speaketh. But our translators thought best to follow the plain and common understanding, not for shame of Beza, or his translation, but for desire of sincerity and plainness. Contrariwise, where your vulgar translator is sometimes so barbarous, that his phrase hath no sense according to the text, it may well be thought you were ashamed to follow him, lest you should have been ridiculous to all men. As you translate Timoratus, religious oftentimes. Non quia de egenis pertinebat ad eum, which in English is, not because of the poor it pertained to him, but you have, translated, not because he cared for the poor. Vna sabbathi, the first of the Sabbath. Sabbati habens iter, having the journey of a Sabbath, you translate, distant a Sabbats journey. Yea you are bold to correct your text, and for Italia, to say Attalia. Ad abluenda crimina, which is, to wash away the crimes you say, to clear him self of the crime. Cum multa ambitione, which is, with much ambition, you say, with great pomp. Exhortentur, which is a deponent, you translate, may be exhorted: ad reuerentiam vobis, which is, for reverence to you, you say, to your shame: and such like. I do not blame you that you are ashamed to follow your vulgar Latin text in these phrases, but that you are not ashamed to allow that translation, as the only authentical text, which no man for shame will follow in many places. To conclude, our meaning for free will, is, that we confess it at all times, to be free from cōstreint, but never free to embrace that which is good in deed, but only when it is reformed by the grace of God: who also in all good things that we take in hand, doth not only make us willing, but also giveth all the strength we have to perform them. If this be your meaning (as I am afraid it is not) by your terms of working and helping, and directing, (as though it could go alone with a little help and direction) we join with you: but if you think you can do anything that good is, without the grace of God, like to Pelagius Celestius, and other like Heretics of the devils black gard, we leave you.

MART. 7. You say moreover in some of your Bibles, thus: So lieth it not then in a man's will or running, but in the mercy of God. Whatsoever you mean, you know this translation is very dissolute, and wide from the Apostles words, and not true in sense. for salvation is in willing and running: according to that famous saying of Saint Augustine, He that made thee without thee, will not justify thee without thee: that is, against thy will, or, unless thou be willing. and the Apostle saith, No man is crowned, unless he fight lawfully. and again, So run THAT YOU MAY obtain. and again. The doers of the Law shall be justified. And our Savior, If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. We see then, that it is in willing, and running, and doing: but to will, or run, or do, are not of man, but of God's mercy. and so the Apostle speaketh, It is not of the willer, nor runner, but of God that hath mercy. And it is much to be marueled, why you said not, It lieth not in the willer, nor in the runner: which is near to the Apostles words, but so far of, in a man's will and running.

FULK. 7. The translation you reprehend, I grant is not proper for the words, and therefore is reformed in the later translations, yet in sense it is all one: for salvation lieth not in the will, or running of man, but in the mercy of God:

even as S. John saith, the children of God are not made of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but they are borne of God.
But thus you reason against it. We are not saved, except we will, and run, ergo, salvation lieth in willing and running. I deny your argument, which is as good as this; we are not saved from sin, except we have committed sin, ergo, salvation from sin, lieth in committing sin. The famous place of Augustine, is a famous corruption of Papists, to establish the strength of free will, clean contrary to S. Augustine's mind, where a point interrogatiue is changed into a periode: for in ancient written copies, it is red with interrogation. Qui ergo fecit te sine te, non te iustifica sine te? He therefore that made thee without thee, doth he not justify thee without thee? And the whole discourse of that father, both before and after, requireth that reading.
For thus he writeth. Si hominem te fecit Deus, & iustum tu te facis, melius aliquid facis, quam fecit Deus, sed sine te fecit Deus. Non enim adhibuisti aliquem consensum, vt te faceret Deus. Quo modo consentiebas qui non eras. Qui ergo fecit te sine te, non te iustificat sine te? Ergo fecit nescientem, iustificat volentem. tamen ipse iustificat, ne su iustitia tua. If God have made thee a man, and thou makest thyself a just man, thou makest some better thing than God hath made: but God made thee without thee. for thou gavest no consent, that God should make thee? howe diddest thou consent which wast not. He therefore that made thee without thee, doth he not justify thee without thee? Therefore he hath made thee not knowing, but he justifieth thee being willing, yet it is he, that doth justify thee, that it should not be thy justice.

The meaning of Saint Augustine is, that we have no more free will to be justified, before we be prevented by the grace of God, than we had will to be created. For it is God's grace, that maketh us willing to be justified, and saved, not the strength of man's free will, as he proveth at large throughout the whole Homilie. Now to the texts of Scripture, which you cite, I answer, there is not one, that proveth any strength or swaye of man's free will, toward the true goodness, before, of an ungodly man, and enemy of God, he be reconciled by the grace and mercy of God, and made an obedient child in some parte, willing to do the will of his father. First, those texts of fighting, and running, prove, that fighting and running is necessary for them, that are exhorted thereto, but not that fighting or running are in the free will of man, or that salvation lieth in them. Eating and drinking are necessary for the life of man, yet the life of man lieth not in eating and drinking. Where the Apostle saith, the doers of the law shall be justified, he meaneth them that fulfill the law, and doth our Savior Christ, answering to the question of him that asked, what she should do to obtain life, declare, that there is no way to enter into life by doing, but only by doing of God's commandments. For the man that doth them shall live by them. But if he were asked which is the way to eternal life, as he was by Thomas, he will answer, I am the way, the truth, and the life. Those texts therefore declare not, howe a man, that is a transgressor of the law, may be saved, but that to obtain salvation by works, it is necessary for a man to keep the whole law and commandments of God, or else he is accursed.

MART. 8. Again, touching continency and the chaste single life you translate thus: All men cannot receive this saying. Mat. 19. v. 11. Now you wot well, that our Savior saith not, All men cannot, but, all men do not receive it: and that therefore, (as S. Augustine saith) because all will not. But when our Savior afterward saith, He that CAN receive it, let him receive it: he addeth another Greek word to express that sense. Whereas by your fond translation he might have said, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . And again by your translation, you should translate these his later words thus: He that can or is able to receive it, let him be able to receive it. For so you translate 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 before, as though it were all one with 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Do you not see your folly, and fashoode, and boldness, to make the reader believe that our Savior should say, Every man cannot live chaste, it is impossible for them, and therefore no man should vow chastity, because he knoweth not whether he can live so or no?

FULK. 8. The Greek word 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 doth signify to be able to hold, or contain, and so it is used Mar. 2. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 . Which you translate, so that there was no place, no not at the door. Do you not mean, that the place about the door, was not able to hold that multitude? Your vulgar Latin is. Ita vt non caperet neque ad ianuam, in barbarous words, but in sense as I have said before. So John. 2. the six pots, when they were empty are said 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , able to receive everyone of them two or three measures. Likewise, John. 22. where the word is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , you yourselves translate not able to contain. Seeing the word therefore signifieth not only to receive, but also to be able to receive, it is rightly translated, Matth. 19. and according to the meaning of our Savior Christ, all men cannot receive this saying, but they to whom it is given, which he doth after evidently confirm, when he addeth the participle 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , he that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Which were vainly said, if all men were able that would, and if it were given to all that would: for then he should say, all men do not receive this saying, but they that will, let them receive it. Where you call Augustine to witness of your foolish gloss, you do him shameful injury, for he saith not all men do not, because all will not:

but these are his words in the place by you quoted: Non omnes capiunt verbum hoc, sed quibus datum est: quibus enim non est datum, aut nolunt, aut non implent quod volunt, quibus autem datum est, sic volunt vt impleant quod volunt. All men receive not this word, but they to whom it is given, for they to whom it is not given, either they will not, or else they fulfill not that which they will: but they to whom it is given, do so will, that they fulfill that which they will.
Augustine is plain to the contrary, that it is not in every man that will, to be continent, but it is the special gift of God that any both will, and be able to perform it, for which he citeth also the saying of the wise man Sap. 8.
which with you is Canonical Scripture. When I knew that otherwise I could not be continent, except God should give it, and this same was wisdom to know whose gift it is, I went unto the Lord and prayed to him.
These things considered, our translation is justified, both according to the word, which signifieth sonetime to be able to receive: and according to the sense, which here must needs require, that it should be so translated. Wherefore it is impossible for any man to live chaste▪ except he have the gift of God, whereof unless a man be certain, he doeth foolishly, and presumptuously to vow that, which he knoweth not, whether he shall be able to perform.

MART. 9. Again in some of your Bibles (Gen. 4. v. 7.) where God saith plainly, that Cain should receive according as he did well or evil, because sin was subject unto him, and he had the rule and dominion thereof, evidently declaring his free will: you translate it thus, If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door: and also unto thee HIS desire shall be subject, and thou shalt rule over HIM. By which relatives falsely put in the masculine gender, you exclude the true antecedent sin, and refer them to Abel Cain's brother. as though God had said, not that sin should be in his dominion or subject unto him, but his brother Abel. But that this is most false and absurd, we prove many ways. Firste S. Augustine saith directly the contrary: Tu dominaberis illius: nunquid Fratris? absit. cuius igitur nisi peccati? Thou shalt rule (saith he) over what? over thy brother? Not so. over what then but sin? S. Jerome also explicateth this place thus: Because thou haste free will, I warn thee that sin have not dominion over thee, but thou over sin. Moreover, the text it self, if nothing else, is sufficient to convince this absurdity. For where this word, sin, goeth immediately before in the same sentence, and not one word of Abel his brother in that speech of God to Cain, howe is it possible, or what coherence can there be in saying as you translate, Sin lieth at the door, and thou shalt have dominion over him, that is, thy brother? But if we say thus, Sin lieth at the door, and thou shalt have dominion thereof: it hath this direct and plain sense, If thou doest ill, sin lieth at the door ready to condemn thee, because it is in thee to over rule it.

FULK. 9. The relatives be the masculine gender in the Hebrew tongue, and therefore referred to Abel, and not to sin, which is of the foeminine gender. Again, sin hath no appetite to Cain, but rather Cain to it, therefore even as it was said to Eve, thy appetite shall be to thy husband, so it is said of Abel, his appetite shall be to thee. Saint Augustine followeth the corrupt translation of the Septuaginta, which for appetite read conversion, and therefore there is the less account to be made of his authority, being also ignorant in the Hebrew tongue, and not regarding the Greek relative to be also of the masculine gender. Jerome also in that place, interpreteth not appetite, but society, and fantasie, ththat chataoth is the masculine gender, and not the foeminine. Whereas it is never read but in the foeminine gender, out of this place of controversy. But the text it self (you say) is sufficient▪ to convince this absurdity, because in this speech of God to Cain, there is no word of Abel. It is somewhat that you say, if this that Moses reporteth were all that God said to Cain, but seeing it is certain, that God at large discoursed with him, of the cause of his envy against his brother, we may easily understand in this speech, two arguments to reprove Cain's envy, the one of the person of God, the other of the person of Abel. For God doth reprove his envy by his own justice, and by Abel's innocence. Which latter argument your false translation doth utterly suppress. But that a Relatiue is referred to an Antecedent, which in the same verse is not expressed, it is no strange thing, to them that read the scripture. Examples I will give you, Job 26. v. 6. 11. & 12. and cap. 27. v. 9. & 10. yea it is very usual, when the antecedent may be easily understood, as here, both by the gender, and also by manner of speech, which being the same that was spoken of Eve’s infirmity & subjection to hir husband, must needs here have the same sense of Abel toward Cain his elder brother.

MART. 10. Now if against the coherence of the text, and exposition of the holy Doctors, and of the whole Church of God▪ you pretend the Hebrew grammar forsooth, as not bearing such construction: not to trouble the common reader that cannot judge of these things, and yet fully to satisfy every man even of common understanding, we request here the Adversaries themselves to tell us▪ truly according to their knowledge & skill, whether the Hebrew construction or point of grammar be not all one in these words, Sin LYETH at the door? and in these, the desire THEREOF shall be subject to thee, and thou shalt rule over IT. If they say (as they must needs) that the Hebrew construction or Syntaxis is all one, then will it follow that the Hebrew beareth the one as well as the other: and therefore when the self same translation of theirs maketh no scruple of Grammar in the former, but translate as we do, Sin lieth at the door: a blind man may see that in the latter words also, the Hebrew is but a foolish pretence, and that the true cause of translating them otherwise, proceedeth of an heretical humor, to obscure and deface this so plain and evident Scripture for man's free will.

FULK. 10. I have shown before, the cause of the change of the gender in the word robets to be, for that by sin is meant here the punishment of sin. Sanctes Pagninus taketh the word sin, for an oblation for sin. And for the punishment of sin, it is taken, Zach. 14, 19. The Septuaginta also do plainly refer these relatives unto Abel, and therefore they are in the masculine gender, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , the conversion of him pertaineth to thee, and thou shalt rule over him.

MART. 11. And as for the Hebrew grammar in this point, were it not for troubling the Reader, we could tell thē that the word, sin, in Hebrew is not here of the foeminine gender, (as they suppose) but of the masculine. so saith S. Hieror. expressly upon this place, who had as much knowledge in the Hebrew tongue, as all these new Doctors. Ibn Ezra also the great Rabbi, in his Hebrew commentaries upon this text, saith, it is a mere forgery and fiction, to refer the masculine relative otherwise than to the word, sin: which, though elsewhere it be the feminine gender, yet here it is a masculine, according to that rule of the Grammarians, that the doubtful gender must be discerned by the verb, adjective, pronoun, or participle, joined with the same: as the said Hebrew Doctor doth in the word, paradise, Gen. 2. which there by the pronounes he pronounceth to be a feminine, though elsewhere a masculine. Lastly, if the word sin, were here, and always only a feminine, and never a masculine: yet they have little skill in the Hebrew tongue, that think it strange to match masculines and feminines together in very good and gramatical construction. Whereof they may see a whole chapter in Sanctes Pagninus with this title, Foeminea masculeis iuncta. that is, Feminines joined with masculines.

FULK. 11. Not only the Hebrew Grammar, but the same phrase used before, maketh plainly for our translation. That S. Jerome saith, the Hebrew is of the masculine gender, as great an Hebritian as he was, he may not carry the matter away with his authority, except he bring an instance, where it is of the masculine gender. The Jewish Rabbins, patrons of free will, as ignorant of the grace of God, err in this place, as they do in a thousand more, and are forced to invent strange applications of the word, appetite, to make their sense probable. How the gender of Hebrew words may be found out, we are not now to learn, which because you have but lately learned, you think all men ignorant thereof, but yourself. By the chapter of Pagninus, where he showeth that feminines are joined to masculines, you might learn that chataoth is the feminine gender, although it be joined with a participle of the masculine gēder. Who also might have taught you, the difference of nounes ending in he, praecedente camets, to be this, that feminines have the accent in the last syllable, masculines in the last save one, and therefore chataoth in this place, having the accent in the last syllable, notwithstanding the participle, which is masculine, must needs be of the feminine gender.

MART. 12. Now for the last refuge, if they will say all this needed not, because in other their Bibles, it is as we would have it: we tell them, they must justify and make good all their translations, because the people readeth all, and is abused by all, and all come forth with privilege, printed by the Queens Printer, &c. If they will not, let them confess the faults, and call them in, and tell us which translation or translations they will stand unto. In the mean time they must be content to hear of all indifferently, as there shall because and occasion to touch them.

FULK. 12. We tell you that we may not justify any fault committed in our translations, but we have reformed them (if any were espied) in the later. Nevertheless those faults are not so great, that we need call in all the Bibles in which is any fault, it is sufficient that we admonish the reader in our later editions of such faults as are escaped in the former: especially when the faults, are such about which mē are not agreed, as in this place you should rather commend our equity, that suffer such trāslations to be in the people's hands, in which is some color of maintaining your errors against us. But if you be so rigorous, that a book of Scripture may not be red, in which there is any fault, I charge you call in your translation of the New Testament, for therein are shameful faults, and such as you cannot defend or excuse, except it be by the fault of the Printer, whereof yet you have not admonished the reader. I will give you a taste of some, and let all men judge whether they be not intolerable faults. For they are no less than detracting and taking away from the word of God. As 1. Cor. 14. v. 38. where both the Greek and the Latin is, If they will learn. Your translation is: If they learn anything. Likewise Acts 5. v. 4. where both the Greek and Latin is: Festus answered that Paul is kept at Cesarea: you translate. Festus answered that Paul is in Cesarea: leaving out the word (kept) as before you left out the word (will) or (desire) which altereth the sense very much. But in a place of greater moment, and in a matter of some controversy, of God's particular preordination, and fore appointment, you leave out a whole clause Act. 10. v. 41. For where it is both in the Greek and in the Latin, that God made the resurrection of his son manifest: not to all the people, but to the witnesses chosen before of God, to us which did eat and drink with him, &c. Your English translation hath no more but thus: Not to all the people, but to us, who did eat and drink with him, &c. Leauing clean out that which is in your Latin text, Testibus praeordinatis à Deo. Also in the Epistle to the Hebrews cap. 7. v. 28. where both the Greek and your vulgar Latin hath. The law appointeth Priests, men that have infirmity, your translation is, the law appointeth Priests them that have infirmity, leaving out Homines, a word very material in this place▪ to observe the oppositiō between the Priesthood of mē & the Priesthood of the son of God. These faults in the New Testament being some of them which I by no diligent reading have observed, now you be admonished of them, we shall see whether you will call in your translation, or command your disciples to burn their books: If you will not, I pray you be good master to us, and let our Bibles go abroad still, for any faults we have our selves amended, and admonished all diligent Readers thereof by our later translations. And because you crack so much of the exposition of the Doctors and of the whole Church of God against us: I must let the Reader understand that the whole Greek Church which for the most parte knew none other text but the Septuaginta, must needs expound the place of Abel as we do, because the Greek text is manifestly in the Masculine gender. And so doth Chrysostom in Gen. Hom. 18. expound the place in these words.

Ne putes inquit licet tuum auersatus sim sacrificium ob prauam mentem, fratris{que} oblationem acceptam habuerim ob sanam intentionem, quod ideo primatu te destituam, & primogeniturae dignitatem à te auferam. Nam licet honor ego illum prosecutus fuerim, accepta{que} fuerint illius dona, &c. Think not (saith he) that although I have refused thy sacrifice, for thy naughty mind, and have received thy brothers oblation, for his good and sound meaning, that therefore I will deprive thee of the primacy, and take away from thee, the dignity of the birthright. For although I have vouchsafed him of honor, & that his gifts have been received, yet unto thee belongeth his conversion, and thou shalt rule over him. And this I permit after thy sin, that thou mayest enjoy the privileges of thy birthright, and I command him to be under thy power and dominion.
You were best now to rail upon Chrysostom and charge him with heresy, and schismatical exposition, contrary to the holy Doctors, and the whole Church of God, against freewill of man. Which because it is your quarrel, you have S. Ambrose also your enemy, De Cain & Abel, lib. 2. cap. 7. Who although as he red it in Latin,
did think it must be referred to him, and not to his brother, yet he expoundeth it not of the strength of free will, but chargeth Came to be author of his own error, Culpae ipsius ad e conuersio est. The conversion of the fault it self is unto thee. For his brother is not added to him, but error is ascribed, whereof he him self is author to him self. The crime (saith he) will return upon thee, which began of thee. Thou hast not whereby to accuse necessity more than thine own mind. The wickedness is retorted back upon thee, thou art Prince of it. He saith well, thou art Prince of it, for impiety is the mother of sins, &c
You see therefore, that if you could obtain that these relatives were referred to him, yet your free will were not by and by to be built upon the place, and that all be not heretics, which draw that text to another exposition, than standeth with your good liking.

MART. 13. Again they translate in some of their Bibles against free will, thus, Christ, when we were yet OF NO STRENGTH, died for the ungodly, Rom. 5. v. 6. The Apostles word doth not signify that we had nostrength, but that we were weak, seeble, infirm. Man was wounded in free will, by the sin of Adam (as he that in the Gospel went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, which is a parable of this thing) he was not slain altogether. But I stand not here, or in any place to dispute the controversy, that is done else where. This only I say, because* they falsely hold, that free will was altogether lost by Adams sin, therefore they translate accordingly, When we had no strength. But the Greek word is well known, both in profane authors, and Ecclesiastical, and specially in the new Testament it self, throughout, to signify nothing else, but, weak, feeble, sick, infirm. Look me through the new Testament, wheresoever infirmity, feebleness, languishing, and the like are spoken of, there is found this Greek word to express it. What Grecian knoweth not (be he but simply acquainted with phrases, and nature of words.) what 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , do signify. When the Apostle saith, Quis infirmatur, & ego non vror? Who is weak and infirm, and I am not much grieved? shall we translate, who is of no strength, &c. or let them give us an instance, where it is certain that this word must needs signify, of no strength. Will they pretend the etymology of the word? a ridiculous and absurd evasion. we ask them of 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , a word of the very same signification, which being compounded in like manner as the other, what doth it signify? anything else but infirmity and feebleness? Yea it is so far from signifying, no strength, that the greatest Grecians say, it is not spoken properly of him that for weakness keepeth his bed, which is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 , but of him that is il disposed, and distempered in body. Yet the etymology is all one with that word which these men will have to signify him that hath no strength. And if they will needs urge the etymology, we tell them, that