A Second Reply to an Answer Made by Doctor Whitgift Part 1

The maintenance of the reply to the Bishop off Salisb. answer touching certain Articles against the D.

Chap. 4. Diuis. 1. pag. 422.

THat the Bishop is directly against the D. in affirming that there be no Apostles, Evangelists, or Prophets, ys manifest. his shift wherewith he would accord himself with the bishop: is is before bewrayed. That the taking away off the Apostles / Prophets / and Evangelists / hindereth not the perfect number off preaching ministers hath been declared: beside that yt is gross to say that the division is not perfect because certain partes of it are not now extant: as if the law of deviding extended not itself to things both past / and to come. He that parteth the church into that before: and under the Gospel: doth he therefore make an evil particion / because there is now no church before the Gospel / that is / under or before the law? Here the D. leaveth the bishop to his own defense / touching that he affirmed a bishop not contained in the place to the Ephes. The division there being given (as hath beue said) off those ministers only which with government handle the word: both here / and in the fifth division the D. doth but trifle in the examples off the elder and deacon: seeing we hold / and will (God willing) show them not to have to do with the word. Wher hereuppon he would bring in his archbishop, and archdeacon: yt is but repetition off that before / where he hath answer. If there be a preaching elder, not contained under a Pastor: seeing he maketh a Pastor. and Doctor all one (unless he fly to his fancy off Apostles / &c.) there is by his saying a preaching ministry / not taught in the scripture. If there be / let him show it.

Where I gave the Catechising unto the Pastor: I will have it meant where there is no Doctor: otherwise I have in the second edition amended that / assigning yt as more proper to the D. So that the Doctor being instituted to the Ephes. he whom they called Catechist / which taught the grounds off religion / ys likewise: albeit S. Pa. calleth all manner of preaching Cathechising. That public reading in the church is as solemn a matter as Catechising the youth, is a piece off the former frenzy (reading is as good as preaching) already confuted. That a reader hath been counted necessary is said without proof: and if it were / it was falsely counted: there being no necessary ministry not specified in the scripture. And when they were first / notwithstanding them / the church ministry was (as hath been shown) divided into bishops / elders / and deacons: so that they came not then so much as into account of the ministries. If they be convenient at any time: that there is scripture to warrant them / even as the Sexten that kept the church door key hath been shown. That the archbishops, archdeacons, and our bishops have no succor by this / being supposed the principalest ministries / and therefore such as owght to have been commanded: hath been likewise disputed / where thes colewortes are answered. That the Deaconship as I take yt is no government, but a simple service, is idly alleged / contrary to nothing here set down. Yt may seem against that alleged before / where I comprehend it under the ministers which govern only: which I did not to set it in the same kind off government with the elders / but for that yt ordering the church money / and ouerseing the poor / might in a general signification be so called.

If the D. can show one letter / that I ever wrote or spake / that the place to the Ephes. containeth all things necessary for the church: then this that he writeth may have place. If not: then he is unworthy to receive answer / seeing he hath been given to understand / how far we extend that place. Therefore whether there were Public churches, Pulpits, Schools, universities in Christian congregations, pertaineth not to the question / although it hath partly / and might further be shown: only I give the reader warning that Judge. • . off those said to handle the pen, whilst I gave to much credit to translations / was not so fitly alleged / to prove universities. The three next diuis. are idle repetitions / before answered. Where I shown that one high priest was ordained over the Jews, only that he might represent our S. Christ, chief off the whole church: the D. answereth / he was also for policy, and government. His reason (our Savior Christ came not to take away ecclesiastical policy) • s vain: as though there could be no ecclesiastical policy / unless one minister were ruler over a whole nation. After he citeth Calvin in the same faith he is wont. For his words (no reason compelleth to extend that to the whole world profitable in one nation) are only understanded off that government in Jury before our Sau. Christ's coming. which ys manifest in that he saith / that example owght not to be followed, considering it was doon in respect that the high priest was a figure off our Savior Christ, and the priesthood being translated that right is likewise. And after: that example off the priests government over the whole nation / was but for a time.

That the pressing off the example off the high priest amongst the Jews, draweth a Pope: I leave to be considered off that before written: especially seeing the high priest was not only governor off the Jews / when they were pa • ed in the land off Canaan: but even then also when (as it is known) they were scattered thorough owt all nations in the world. For as S. Luke saith it to have been / immediately after the ascension off our Sau. Christ: so was it many years before his coming into the world. So that he which will frame an Archbishop by that example / establisheth the Ecclesiastical charge off one / over those which were scattered thorowghowt all the corners off the earth. It would be also observed / how here the D playeth on both hands. For when we reason sometime only off the proportion off the law to the gospel / other sometime off the perpetual law off God: we receive answer that we are Jewish enemies to the liberty of the church. But where there is anything under the law / coming within a furlong off his cause: he gripeth it for gospellike / and which owght to be followed. I see / that M. Nowel thinketh a Metro poltane may be over a Christian province, as the high priest was over the Iwes: wherein / I can be but sory that all the Godly learned / are not off one mind. As for Hyperius, he seemeth to reason upon a supposition: that if the example off the government off the high priest under the law should be followed (which he before denied): that then a man might conclude an Archbishop over a Province / but not a Pope over the whole church. This to be his meaning I think the D. him self will accord me: else let him tell me what to answer to him / that saith: that yt is not red in the scripture / that ever any off the Apostles / toke unto himself authority or primacy over the other Apostles / but that a most perfect equality is shown to have been in all: that Christ did prescribe them equal offices in all things: that that manner of dominion which was not in thappostles time owght not to have been admitted in the ages which followed. Likewise what he will answer to him / which condemneth as new found orders Archdeacons Archelders and vicares. Wherof the 2. first have (as I haueshewed) better testimony of their auncientie then the Archbishop: and are / if not off the same birth / yet off the same kind that he.

Where I show the titles of chief off the Synagogue, of the Samctuarie, of the hows of god, to make directly against him, considering that particular churches are now in steed off thē, and therefore there owght to be such not in every Province or diocese but in every particular congregation: the D. as amazed speaketh he cannot tell what. First / that the Jews had particular Synagoges, as we particular congregations, and that I have confessed that before. As if I had anywhere denied it: or had not even here in effect affirmed it: or it helped him for answer / which is the ruin off his cause. For their Synagoges being the same that our particular churches / in everyone off them being not one / but many princes: the urging off that example / bringeth diverse chief governors / or archbishops in every particular church. Then he saith / one Christian common wealth is but one church, which is untrue. For first although the church be in a Christian common wealth: yet nether is the common wealth the church / nor the church the common weaith as shall appear. Besides / I have shown that the scripture (off whose manner off speech the question is) useth not to call a Province / or diocese / a church: but ether the whole universal / or else a particular congregation. Thirdly if it were so / yet the answer is insufficient. For if the name off the house off God / were common as well to a church in a Province / as in a particular cōgregatiō: yet what right hath he to pull the ecclesiastical priesthood more to his provincial / then to our particular church? He saith / the superiority amongst the priests: and Levites, is by the civil law of Moses. Which declareth him ravished off all judgment: it being manifest that they were ether Ceremonial / or Ecclesiastical laws / wherewith the Lord disposed of the degrees of the ministry: whereof the Ceremonial being abolished / and therefore the chieftie off one priest over all / we willingly retain the ecclesiastical.

Where to that alleged off Princes off the families off Levites, I replied that the Lord would by those titles as by lively pictures, imprint in the Iwes understanding the chieftie off our S. Christ: he answereth / that maketh nothing against their offices. Yes: for that those that would conclude thereof / one chief / now amongst the ministers in a Province / are thereby put to silence. Where he addeth / so the estate off a Prince over a land should be abolished: be is frivolous / considering that that government / hath other stays off the ordinance off God. Where that chieftie amongst the ministers / hath nothing but that it was ceremonial. And if my answer like him not he shall have the bishops / as little for his advantage which saith: The Prince of the families doth not signify any governor, or one endued with power, but only the first and best man off the company. He complaineth that the Bishop speaking off the name, I drive it to the office. If he had been awake he should have perceived / that the same reason I assigned why there was primacy in the ministry off the law / unmeet for ours: serveth also to show why they might have the title off Princes / which ours may not. For being the counseil of God / in that superiority to peint forth the chieftie off our Savior Christ: it was moste convenient that that should be also written in the names.

Where I shown the distribution off the Levites offices, not made off David, but by express commandment off God: he saith the Bishop hath answered, that such negative arguments are but weak. So he bringeth him in answering this reason after his death: for in his life it was not propounded. Howbeit I have shown how the argument holdeth: and that the D. shift / is Hardinges against the bishop / confuted also by the bishop. Nether did the bishop condemn here simply negative reasons / but that negative which supposed there owght to be no name of archbishop / because there was none under the law: which he might worthily. For I shown that we mean nothing less / then to conclude that / of the precise government off the church under the law. Nether is mine an argument off one example but of comparison. For if David a figure off our S. Christ / a man after God's own heart / a Prophet / would not meddle with altering anything in the ministries / without God's word: what man is he that shall dare do yt / without the same warrant? By the Printers small oversight / in putting 1. for 2. the D. hath stumbled upon a notable, place that Jehoshaphat appointed Levites, &c. for deciding the Lord's causes not only in Ierusalē, but for the whole country, and made Amaries the priest chief over them: yet no commandment red of, so to do. Which is untrue. For Jehoshaphat did nothing but commanded off the Lord by Moses; that there be in Jerusalem an Ecclesiastical Senate whereof the high priest should be chief unto which they should resort in difficult cases / not able to be voided at home. For otherwise there was a Senate erected by Jehoshaphat in every strong city off Jury.

The Jews church wanted nothing to that perfection, wherein the Lord would have it then, and many things were undecided by the express word off God: be friends / and do well agree. For both the perfection of yt then / as ours now / standeth: if things cōstāt defined vpō / there be also general rules left in his word / whereby things variable by circumstances / may be compassed. In the next reason / for causes there assigned / I will proceed no further / but leave it only to the readers judgment: likewise whether I have shown / that there were universities amongst God's people / before our S. Christ's time: and whether the D. if he had wherewithal / would not contrary it. That Schools are civil in heathenish common wealths, and Ecclesiastical in Christian: is poor divinity. for so a Schoolmaster teaching Terēce / or Professor reading Aristotle is become an Ecclesiastical officer: which hath nether ecclesiastical election / not ordinaciō / and is often chosen only of him that founded the School. Yea everyone that reacheth to play on instruments / whereby mē may be apter to sing the lords praises: is one off the D. Ecclesiastical officers. His reason (schools are like the first nources of the true knowledge off God) ys not good. For beside that the Fathers house is the first nource / not the school: by this reason the Father off the howshold that nourtereth his sons / yea the mother that bringeth up her dawghters in the fear off God / should be ecclesiastical officers: which are only economical / or house governors. That bishops cannot come in place off the apostles / seeing they were together with the Apostles: is unanswered. That the D. alledgeth off Apostles being bishops: is ^b before answered / although it be nothing to purpose. for to have confuted the reply / he should have shown that all bishops are Apostles: where his places be / to prove Apostles bishops. For it followeth not if all Apostles were bishops / that all bishops should be Apostles.

Where I show that Archbishops could not come in place off Apostles, if they were (as Erasmus supposeth) in their time; because they should so prevent the time, not waiting for the Apostles death: he answereth / where the apostles could not be them selves, there they appointed other: which is fond. For how followeth / it / that because they appointed others where they could not be them selves / therefore they appointed archbishops? As if they might not appoint Evangelists: or in every particular church a Bishop. Off Bishops appointed by the Apostles / to conclude Archbis I have shown how sikly it is: likewise how that bishops being the Apostles successors / is to be understanded. Against my reasons / that there is more liberty in instituting things in the common wealth: here is nothing but bare denials. In answering generally off all offices in the common wealth / a man not utterly forsaken off his judgment / must needs know that I had answered the example off Saul. The answer to Chrysostom, ys made before. Where I show that Titus presidentship in ordination off bishops, implieth not perpetual government, if it did, yet not to help the archbishop. yt is the D. part to show / that judgment and government be all one, seeing he imagineth it a staff off his cause. But the reader may see / that allthowgh the D. keep open shop still: yet his wares are uttered long sythens. For I beseech yow in this defense off the bishops answer / besides his own colewortes / and bare repeticion off the Bishops reasons / with some yeas / and naes: what hath he worthy the invention of the meanest? To the next diuis. Further then I have I will not answer: the next also I leave to the readers judgment.

THe Council off Antioch / repeated here with the commentary is answered. Where I show no need with us of archbishops, considering that the cause why they were ordained (to call Synods and propound the causes to be handled in thē) is ceased with us▪ the D. in proving that Emperors called general Councils, shooteth fair / but cometh nothing nere the mark. For although some provincial Councils were called by the Emperor: yet yt is manifest both by the Council of Nice and by this I alleged / (that decreed there should be 2. provincial Councils every year / wherein the Metropolitan should give warning to the rest / that the bishops might not hold a council without his knowledge) that the Metropolitan with the bishops advise / might hold a Provincial Council. It was done I grant / by consent / and sometime by express confirmation off the Godly Princes: as in other things pertaining to the ministry their authority assisted / when men refused to come to the bishops / who were not able to compel them: but the order off it was with the Bishops. This although it were not in the 9. canon, yet whē the D. knew it was in that council (as appeareth by his precise denying off it to be in that canon, where otherwise he would have said in that Council): it appeareth that he useth less sincerity in thes holy matters / then the Heathen • n their profane. For Alexander counseilled to set upon Darius in the night / answered that he would not steal the victory: but the D. concealeth from his reader / even that which he knew my answer must needs discover.

Where he saith / our metropolitan calleth Synods, although not provincial, and propoundeth the matters: first is nothing to the purpose. for calling only diocesan Synods / he doth nothing which a simple bishop may not as well as he▪ and therefore no cause why / there should be an archbishop in this respect. Secondly / all know that those Synods he speaketh off / are holden for the moste pate by deputies at his appointment. So / that which the D. utterly condemneth in the Discipline we propound / touching the choosing off a president every Synod / is done here / and that at the plrasure off one man / not by consent off the ministers: yea by appointment off one for the moste parte no Ecclesiastical person / in matters pertaining to the ministry. Thirdly / I would know by what right / the archbishop may call his diocesan Synods▪ if by Ecclesiastical / then why not also the Provincial? considering that they are of one kind / ether both Ecclesiastical / or both civil. If he do yt by civil authority: why doth he not as well wait for the magistrates commandment in one / as in the other? He saith / the archishops office consisting in sundry other things besides calling Synods, propounding matters, ouerseing the limites: owght not to cease although he do none off these. Yt being manifest that these were the chief causes / under pretence whereof he was brought in / and especially to the end that controversies / and contentions amongst the ministry / by Synods called / and ordered by him / might he ended: yt must follow that if we may spare him for these / we may easily be with owt him for the rest: and so this is not for the amendment / but for the overthrow off his surisoiction. Because we agree in the matter / and I have before shown that the metropolitans were appointed to oversee that none passed his bounds: I omit the injury he doth in supposing that I send him to the ninth Canon for that matter / when as the word there by all indifferency / owght rather to be referred to the council in the text / then to the canon in the margent.

Where I say that this oversight off limites / may be without an archbishop: he saith / yt may be best by him: whereof let the reader upon the former allegations off both Sydes / judge. where he affirmeth yt no good argument against the archbishop, that he doth not keep the old Canons owt off use with us: seeing our archbishop holdeth off those in times past / and hath for his chiefest defense that there where archbishops in times paste: all see / if there be not the same causes off them now that were then / how at the least this hold is thrown down. Where I show that our archbishop in giving licences to preach in a dousen dioceses at the lease breaketh the same order for the keeping whereof he was ordained: he answereth / yt is profitable. Where beside the untruth before shown / he condemneth that order off the Council off Constantinople / that decreed against that wandering: and overthroweth one off the causes wheruppon the metropolitans office standeth. That / parte off the difference of the metropolitan from other bishops, rose off the commodity off the city, and for that yt was honored with the Emperors court: is manifest. by the increase and decrease / lifting up and throwing down off the authority off the Patriarch all seats. That the Emperor might make the metropolitan seat which he would, I well understood, seeing I set it down before: but the question to / where yt is meetest the Archbishop should be / if there must be one. And my reason was / forsomuch as the place moste fyttest / hath well and happily wanted him: therefore our church may be well without him. His trifling in the two translations / argueth that to fill up / he careth not if his reader peele staws: for nothing • ether off them / is against that I setdowne.

The cavil against my order / because I come from the council of Antioch back to Cyprian: is too simple. For yt is not (as his) for one matter / but for diverse; beside that / I reprehended him for that yt skilleth much to observe the order off times / when question was off the time / and antiquity of the archbishop / Whether Cyprians words do flatly forbid any one bishop to have authority over another / much les over all: I leave yt be judged off that before. likewise how honest an exception yt is against this sentence / that yt was spoken in a Council where an error was decreed: also in what sense I called Cyprian metropolitan: further how untrue yt is that he which denieth the authority of one bishop over another, exempteth the ministers either from civil, or ecclesiastical subjection, or punishment. Lastly / what a cavil yt is / that when the correction of the disorders in the ministry is given to the civil magistrate, the prince thereby is overcharged. Now if the reader find upon the discourse before / that the church well governed in Cyprians time / had no archbishop nor metropolitan that had authority over others / when there was moste need / considering there was then no Christian bishops: Then yt is manifest / that there is now les cause / when we have a Christian magistrate: which alleged here by me / the D. him self (although he had good will to bite at) durst not come near.

His cavil that I alleged this canon, falsely attributed unto the Apostles, is answered: beside that I show that yt being falsely assigned to them / is notwithstanding the true canon off the Council off Antioch. The Canon is as I have alleged / nothing nether added nor diminished, which might disaduātage the D. cause any • ote. whether the bishop according to that canon / may do that which appertaineth unto his own parish without the archbishop: whether the archishop taketh matters owt off their hands / concludeth them not making the bishops prime / contrary to the tenure off that canon (which the D. denieth). I leave to the readers judgment / his especially which hath seen the merchandise / and trafique off his courts. And it may partly appear by the boke off the 7 • . archbishops / where Canterbury is made the head off all our churches, all bishops sworn to canonical obedience off that archbishop and defense off all Privileges and liberties of that seat▪ Where the bishop off London is his dean to cal synodes, to publish his decrees, to make return off thexecution: Winchester his Chancelor, Lincoln his vice chancelour, Salisbury his chanter, Worcester his chaplain, Rochester his cross bearer when that bagage was. Wher his authority is said to have no certain bounds but almost as him self listeth with other such archbishoplicke / and vnministerlike loftines / reckoned / and earnestly avouched / and yet notwithstanding (as he saith) sparingly touched: to the end belike that it might have an easier defense. And if the lord bishops are his vassa • e • the poor ministers what place shall they have?

His repetitions I will not touch. The authority out off the counterfaicte Higinus, as I noted him / (that the metropolitan should condemn no bishop before the matter heard, and discussed by the bishops of the Province) maketh for us more then if yt had been out off the true Higinus: considering that the archbishop in the counterfaicte Higinus time / being grow̄ much our of fashion / was yet girded in les room then ours. The like restreincte off his authority was in the African Council. How fond the D. answer is / that our archbishop putteth none out without due proof, is manifest: considering that the greatest monarche that ever was / hath no further authority to condemn / then upon dew proof. likewise what daliance yt is / that he doth nothing but by consent of all the realm, and therefore off the bishops: is before declared.

Where missing the number off the Canon / I alleged out off the Council off Antioch / that the metropolitan had not so much as the casting voice, when the bishops were equally divided: he answereth / there is no mention off equality off voices, as though he were ignorant / that matters in Councils / passed by the more parte off voices. Forsomuch therefore as the Council upon the division off the bishops judgments / willeth that other should be called: yt is to be esteemed that that was / because the bishops were equally parted. Where he saith / thereby a metropolitan had authority over moe provinces then one, yt followeth not. For beside that the canō is of all metropolitans / so that whatsoever any off them might do in an others precincte / that the other might do in his: by this account the elders / yea the Deacons had authority over the bishops: considering that they accused / might call other bishops thē their own. Where he saieh / thautoritie of our metropolitā and bishops, is nothing increased but decreased, forsomuch as nether he nor all the bishops can deprive a bishop without the consent of the Prince, yt is not to purpose / seeing all the bishops in the world may not / nor ever could off right remove a bishop by force / if the Prince would keep him in. Our question is of the ecclesiastical sentence of deposicion. And if he mean that a bishop heretic / schismatic / or corrupt in manners / may not be proceeded against by an ecclesiastical sentence off deposition / yea off excommunication (if the case require) unless the Prince will consent: beside that his endeavor off / flattery is to manifest: his meaning is to cut out the archbishop so / that he shall do nether more nor les then will agree with his ease / and whereby he may shift the Cross from his shoulders. For all know that Christian princes may be / and sometimes are drawn to favor those / whose pastoral government cannot be but harmful unto the church: in which case the Ecclesiastical censures owght not to sleep / to the end that allthowghe he cannot be removed: yet the church after he be descried / and condemned for such as he is / may fly from him. That the bishop may excommunicate an elder, belongeth to another tractate: that he may depose an elder, is untrue: and hath appeared in that the council off Carthage decreed / that an elder accused by his bishop, might cal 6. other bishops, and the deacon three: and likewise may by another / which decreed that being condemned off his bishop ether by right or wrong, he might appeal unto other bishops. Beside that / I have shown that he might hear no cause without his clergy: therefore those condemnations by the bishop / must be understanded if he be duly / and according to the order prescribed condemned. He abuseth also his reader / in that he would prove the bishops authority greater / because it was forbidden to those put out by him, to go to the Emperor. Considering that the same canon giveth them remedy against the bishop in a greater assembly: yea even against a whole Synod in a more general then it.

Whether the 4. Firste principal differences / between the bishops in times paste and ours now / be true, let the reader judge off that hath been alleged. Likewise off the fifth / upon that which hath and shall be: against which he hath nothing but repetitions. Also whether the D knoweth anything off order, that denieth this to be the place off mentioning the excommunication, in such sort as I did. That alleged owt off the Council of Hispalis / touching that the elder owght not to preach in the bishop presence: is in a Council supposed more ancient then thr first Nicene / likewise yt was observed in the African churches in Augustine's time. And that yt endured until the year off the Lord 659. when there were • rosse corruptions, tendeth to further condemnation off our Bishops / further owt of fashion in that behalf / then those degenerate ones. and if this Council be not to be alleged for the corruptions, then how cometh yt / that Volufianus in the year • 65 / a bishop off a corrupter estate / (whose mass is grosser / then that off this Council) is made so godly a man? yt is well known / that later Councils then this / and therefore (for the most part) corrupter: are cited off the godly learned / as testimonial traces of the Syncerity in purer times. That the elder by this canon, willed off the bishop might preach in his presence, is untrue: only yt is said / that with the bishops commandment he might give absolution to the penitent / which was then (as now with us) another thing from preaching. That there hath been no time wherein there have been moe preaching bishops, then now with us: unless all be preachers / is untrue. seeing an unpreaching bishop was wont (as M. Cal. proveth (to be a mōster / and cried owt on in very corrupt times. If our bishops be compared with the Popish in this point: they may be thought dutiful. but diverse compared with bishops off ancient time / may well be accounted domb. Considering their often preaching / the traces whereof are to be seen diversely: namely in the Council off Ments / before by me alleged. Wherunto serveth M. Hoopers saying / that the church at the beginning had such bishops, as did preach many godly Sermons in les time, then our bishops horses be a bridling.

If the rare preaching off some / be but Men's fault and not the offices: then our Archbishops whether off synistre favor or as gyltie them selves / play their partes evil. Considering that diverse fault openly in this even the chief pointe off their office / and have had for anything I have heard / good peniworthes off yt. Where still appeareth how dangerous yt is to the church / to lay such weight off the churches welfare in one man. In the next diuis. let the reader judge how untrue yt is / that there were bishops off 100. churches in the Apostles times. the two next are answered. Whether thes devised degrees / were steppes for the Pope to clime up, let yt be judged off that alleged: and namely off that in M. Beza / whose judgment is the same with mine here. how this doth not impeache the holy doctrine of the Sonn off God, confirmed in the Nycene Conncell: I have shown That I do confess here the kind of government by elders to have ceased, or that one Bishop was over a whole diocese, before the council off Nice: ys utterly untrue. The next let the reader likewise judge.

Where he saith I repeat Basil the poor metropolitan, and Theodoret the pore bishop for want off others, let him know that this was the estate of the most apparent bishops at the Nicene council / whom themperour made so much off touching their apparel vile, vile to loke to: of Athanasius / which being metropolitan was poor: off Ambrose which had no suyt of men after him / and which was in his household stuf / and reuenewe / poor: of the bishōp off Th •• lose / which was poor. Yea the richest by the church / and by the church / best provided for: were content with that whereof they might honestly / and soberly live. And where another off the D. refuges is / that they might have been riche: yt is true they with their competent household / owght to be honestly provided for / leste the care over the flock should be drawn to things off this life. I grant also that they may be riche: but I deny that they ought to grow riche by the ministry. yt owght to suffice them as the Apostle saith to live off the gospel, not to riot, not to have ā lordly estate, not to be rich by yt: as yt is both expounded and confirmed off Jerome.

Where I shown owt off the ancient Councils / that the bishops should have a little house nere the church, their household stuf after the common sort, table, and diet poor, not give them selves to feasting, get their estimation by good conversation: he answereth one of the councils decreed that the clerckes should get their living by some occupatiō, not meet for our days But it decreed not that the bishops / or ministers of the word should do so / but only Clerks: in which number were readers / dorekepers / acolouthes / exercistes and other such / which having light charges in the church / were fashioned in the Bishops house to the ministry. These having a great part off their living (as shall appear) off that appointed for the bishops house: were commanded to get the rest with their hands at such times / as were nether hindrance unto their office / nor their further advancement in learning: as it is to be seen in those Canons. Now if they afters dinners and suppers or others times wherein they nether executed office nor were so fit to study / occupied them selves in some art / werby they gained parte off their living / and those Clerckships were needful: I see no great inconvenience in that order. At the lest in the time and country in which the D. would lurk: there is no difference. If there had been any material: he owght to have shown yt. for what cause can he assign why our bishops should live more lordly then those? both living in the peace and wealth off the church / and under Christian magistrates. They sowing also more liberally then ours / why should they reap more scantly? especially seeing diverse off their Countries were better hable to fournishe them off that riot then ours is.

Where also he would make men believe / that they are come to this excess by Christian princes liberality, the truth is otherwise. For they to whom they succeeded in this princely estate: came to this wealth by church robbery. Seinge yt is easy to prove / by diverse as well gifts off the Emperors an others / as by statutes and perogatives (made in favor off the church): that yt was very riche in time off those bishops. Therefore that he alledgeth otherwhere for the continuance off these large revenues to one bishop, lest our bishops (as some in Augustine's time) should take occasion of pillag •• is absurd. Yt is high time that he were (to speak no grievous liar) vnbishoped: which will take occasion off pillage / having to live on a hundredth pound a year. And as yt is obscrued that the church goods were committed unto the bishops trust / to this ende that he taking so much as would honestly maintain him / should bestow the rest upon diverse other church necessities: so the same appeareth / in that it was ordained / that the bishop should use the church goods as things given to him to keep, and not as his own. Also by the examples off Athanasius and Augustine: where off for the first falsely accused of the turning away off the corn given to the church unto his own use: was answered by the Council assembled at the Alexandria / that he had nothing but the travail in disposing off yt. The other showing how the Donatists had not only their own when they returned unto the church / but also off the church goods: addeth that the church goods were both theirs and his, seeing he was poor as well they. But if (saith he) we possess privately as muthe as may suffice us, then the church goods are none of ours, but the poor's: off which goods we have the ordering, and do not challenge them as proper unto us, which is a damnable abuse,

Further the bishops in times paste for that portion allowed unto them / kept not only them selves and their own household: but nourished in their houses / and at their tables / the foorsaid Clerks: as appeareth in Augustine's example / with whom they were at one table / in one house / and off the same charges. I leave the testimony of the Council: that (of the churches goods divided into 4. partes) giveth one of them unto the bishop and his brethren. Which although yt be corrupt / and not of the auncientie pretend: diet in a case not in questiō / and which hath confirmation off the former times / I might a great deal better use then the D. hath donne his counterfaictes. The testimony off M. Hooper shall suffice: who saith that the bishops household was the school or treasurehouse off good ministers, to serve the word off God, and administration off Sacraments. Thus appeareth that the difference between our bishops / and them in times past / is not as is pretended / in that the churches were then poor, and now riche: but partly in that the goods which served before for diverse necessary Uses off the church / serve now to the lording and unnecessary statelines off one. Partly also in that those bishops having a colledg off scholars in their houses / which were the seed and store off the ministry / nourrished them at the same trencher with them: ours (the Clerks or scholars being thrust out) devour all them selves.

And that it is not as (he saith) in the circumstance of time and country, Even as he hath heard godly men in in times paste / forbidding this stately pomp and wealth off bishops in other ages: so he might have red yt forbid̄ of those of our age. M. Calvin writeth thus: how the bishops in times paste rioted not in superfluous wealth: that one voice of the Synod off Aquileia. Where Ambrose was president (the poverty of the lords ministers is glorious) doth sufficiently declare. Verily the bishops had then riches, wherewith they might have made the church to have a Sightly porte: if they had thought that that had been their true ornament. But when they knew that nothing is more contrary to the office of a pastor, then to shine and swell in dayintie fare, costly apparel, many servants, princely palaces: they followed and embraced humility and modesty, yea poverty yt self, which Christ consecrated amongst his ministers. And after: was yt meet that they should follow the magnificence off Princes in the number off waiting men, bravery of houses, costlines of fare and apparel: whose life owght to have been a singular example off frugality, modesty, continency and humility? how much did this abhor from their office: whom the eternal decree off God forbiddeth to desire filthy lucre, and to be content with a simple kind off living: alleging to that purpose the canons off the Carthage Council / which I have set down: and there to calling the bishops of these times / which notwithstanding the D. saith were for those times.

He might also have red off the godly learned with us: which condemn yt flatly / in our both country / and age. For the knowledge whereof: let the reader resort unto the seventh Article off Master Barns. Likewise to that Master Hooper saith that the fourth parte of the bishopric were enough for the bishop: and that the magistrates which suffer such abuse off those goods be culpable off the fault. Further / to that an other calleth them to the tenth parte off their bishopric: when he biddeth them come down from their thowsandes, and take thē to their hundredes. And if it be so as M. Hooper saith: yt ys so far from that this abundance is commodious unto the common wealth, and honor to Prince (as he other where saith) that it draweth the wrath of God vpō the Prince / and consequently upon the common wealth. Beside that / the D. can show no one pointe wherein yt is honorable to the Prince: but only barely affirmeth yt. And yt is manifest that yt being incommodious unto the church: yt must needs be damagable unto the state: the good and Godly wealth whereof / is the Princes honor.

Where he saith riches, fair houses, and costly furniture be no hindrances to a godly man, to do his duty: unless he say a bishop / and by reason / off his ministry / he speaketh not to purpose. if so: then yt is before confuted / and more at large purswed off the forsaide book off discipline. That Hypocrisy and pride, lieth hyd under the name off poverty, ys from the matter / not only because the poverty which the Council speaketh of / is none such / that had not sufficient and honest maintenance (as may appear in Augustine's manner off living / which was at the making off the Carthage Canons): but also because they spake not off a pretended poverty / but off that which (meet for the estate off a bishop) should be no further in show / then in deed. Althowgh yt were better for the church / that this pride lay hid: then to have so many witnesses off yt / in their houses hanged. Their tables and cupbordes spread / their garments died with it / and their manner off life both at home and abroad proclaiming yt. He saith also that bishops were wealthy then: because feasting was forbidden them. In deed they were wealthy stewards / but poor lords: great Baylifes / but small proprietaries This he might well have gathered / which is true: that even then / there were which (not content with an honest meintenance) aspired to further magnificēce in their houses / household stuf / and fare / then was sitting for bishops: and that under color off getting estimation to their office. which appeareth both in the for said canons made for that purpose: and in Jerome.

Where he saith that the doctrine off the Gospel is much more purely professed by ours, then it was by the old Bishops: and for proof alledgeth here thes Councils / and ^g otherwhere / that almost all the moste ancient fathers, yea the moste off the auncientest bishops believed an abode upon earth a thousand years after the rising again: that almost all the Greke both bishops and writers and the moste parte off the Latins, were spot with free will, merits, invocation off Saints, &c. Where first let yt be observed / how rowgh (as in other places before) be is with the old writers / when it serveth for his purpose: and what equity there is in this mā which crieth owt / if I do but tread as yt where off one off their heels / when he at one stroke almost all / at once / by condemning them off error in the matter off justification (the foundation off religion) and off free will (which he ^h saith is likewise) stricketh them deadly in the head. Secondly observe / that he doth yt untruly. For beside that he is not hable to show the moste parte off both Greke and Latin moste ancient writers after Papias, infected with that error off a 1000. years: to say that the moste parte off the moste ancient bishops were so / is a notable slander. And seeing that the writers speak doubtfuly of merits / inuocatiō off Saints / and free will / sometime for / and sometime against them: likewise seeing that diverse things under there names are none off theires / but heritiks / which partly corrupted their books / partly set forth other under their credit: they deserved to be somewhat more gently handled. And yet these are they forsothe / whose authority is the best argument in divinity: and from which although we appeal to the scriptures / and in appealing cry in the D. ears / yet he is deaf / and will not hear. But I think from henceforth we shall hear no more off Tertullian saith yt &c. unless reason be annexed / and that owt off the word off God.

Thirdly yt is to be observed / how unequally the comparison is made. for in steed that he should have compared the corruptions off the bishops off one province / with the corruptions off ours: to make our bishops Son to shine / he matcheth yt with the cioudes off errors / assembled owt off all the world / and that by the space off 450. years / as is to be seen. To this cosideration doth pertein / the erors off some before noted / the insincere preaching of some others / partly by allegories / wherein they are as fond as the fondest off the ancient: partly by vain pomp and ostentatiō / that was not in them / which although they were studied in all good letters / yet in their homilies to the people / behaved them selves as if they had known nothing but Jesus Christ. Lastly so many of them as shall be found to maintain all therrours in this pack of the D. I dare will pronounce that they are deplier plōged in error then any of those old bishops / which keeping the foundation erred in the rest off the building whereof (upon that alleged off both partes) let the judgment be the readers. What their honesty off life is, which is another pointe wherein he compareth ours with the elder bishops / I will not further medle: especially seeing that whether there life be good or bad can hardly be hidden. Althowgh for any imperfections he showeth that way in the fathers: he might as well have made ours equal with thapostels them selves / amongst whom there was contention as amongst the old bishops. That the 5. Canon of the 2. Council of Tyron he stombled one is against me, and my likes which leave our calling, is from the purpose / and untrue as hath been shown. That my collector deceived me in the council, because yt is nether the first nor second, is mere trifling: seeing my allegacion is maintained / if yt be (as yt ys in deed) the third: this fault being by all lykelihood some others then mine / Considering that I found yt trwly noted in my paper book from whence I toke yt. I may rather say that his deceived him / and was herein somewhat to well skilled in Greke: which for Hierapolis a Cytie in Phrygia / whereof Papias was bishop / told him that he was of Jerusalem.

Where I compared the council which decreed that no bishop sitting in any place should suffer a minister or elder to stand▪ with the behavior off our bishops towards the ministers: he staggereth on this and that side. But his drifte is that yt is the bishops right / that they should stand and he sit: wherein he accuseth the council off giving yt away from them. Then he will have yt in their discretion, that yt may (belike) serve for a brake to break proud stomachs. But what if the bishop being proud / the ministers be humble: surely by this reason yt should be rather in their discretiō / to make the bishop sit or stand before thē: For they often beaten with poverty / learned humility: which he through sudden wealth / (if he had any before) may easily forget. If there be such high minded ministers: yt is meet their pride be otherwise corrected / then by this vncanonicall crowching both to blow up the bishops heart in pride / and to draw the rest with their ministry into con •• mpt: whilst both equal in office / and sometime superior in gifts / they have harder entertainment off them / then many off the better sort off Servants have at the hands off their masters. So that where they are by the law off God / the bishops fellows: the poor ministers think them selves well dealt with / if they may be admitted for compagnions off his servants: as if my lord bishop only were Shepherd over the people / and all the rest were Swinardes. I omit that some of them are content that a Justice off peace / yea off Quorum, (as I have heard) stand before them with their cappes in hand: which how near yt is to despising off powers / whereof the Apostle speaketh / let all judged.

To that alleged off the train off waiting men before and after, condemned in all bishops in the person off Samosatenus he answereth / he was condemned for having Soldiers, and for walking the streets. which is frivolous. For there was no more likelihood off a capitaine in him; then in our bishops / saving that where he was waited upon with spears / peradventure according to the serving men's fashion off the country: ours are followed with swords and bucklers. He is generally there spokē against for his pomp: as that he was like unto men in worldly dignity, and made him a throne or pulpit like a Prince. And for his men / not only because they had spears but because they were in great number. Now if this were damnable in a bishop to be like a ptince or worldly potentate: yt is manifest that our bishops for thir train / are under the same condemnation. Gregory also although not in the same chap. off Ruffin / entered as well as George, and before him / with a troupe off men into the bishoprik off Alexandria / owt off which Athanasius was wrongfully put: and that is with other things reproached him / although they were lent by the governors. He saith it appeareth by these examples / that bishops had riches and authority: which is absurd / seeing himself confesseth / and the story maketh mention / that they enjoyed this by unjust means / and church robbery. I grant the bishop was steward off great abundance / but not to his own use.

That every teacher in the church was called Rabbi: those know / which have any skill in the tongue from whence it was taken. So that what honor the D. can draw to the ministry by that word / groweth no more to the bishop then to all other teachers: and it contained a profession off obedience, in respect off those that were taught / not in respect of one teacher towards another. If the Evangelists had turned it Lord which I corrected in the second edition) yet the degree off superiority signified by this word Lord must be very small. Seeing yt was used by a women off honest estate / to one whom she supposed no other but a gardener. Where therefore he would prove that the word Lord given to Athanasins by the Synod signifieth some high degree and authority / because the Emperor and his nobles were called only Lord's without other addition: he trifleth / seeing it is manifest by that alleged / that with thē being a common title almost to the basest sort of men / yt had no such honor shut in yt as he pretendeth / but was great or small / according to the persons yt was applied unto. So that or ever that word will help him / he must show that the bishops then were set in great outward dignity.

Where also he would make the reader believe / that the Synod called Athanasius Lord off the priests of Alexandria: yt is but to abuse him: when that word (as the greek) is given to any of mean estate / and is as much with us as Syr. And not with us alone / but in diverse other countries / which speak so to any of mean condition: yet the D. turneth it always my Lord. Whereby he lordeth those / which have no lordship to maintain them nor mā to wait upon them: yea (as I have shown) thus we shall have my Lord gardenkeper: then which what can be more ridiculous. And that it was not the Councils meaning / to make Athanasius Lord off the elders in Alexandria▪ appeareth manifestly by that I have alleged off the elders off Alexandria: which call him their fellow minister without any other title. Wherein they should be too unmannerly and undutiful / if he were (as it seemeth the D. would bear us in hand) their Lord. Which dalying may yet better appear / in that Alexander bishop off Alexandria writing to Athanasius / when he was but deacon / or elder at the most: writeth. To Athanasius Lord and beloved son̄e: So that if Dominus must needs be a Lord: then my Lord bishop must by the same reason that he would be called Lord / call the elders or Deacons / Lord's likewise. So there shall be Lord Bishop / Lord Elder / Lord Deacon: which as it is ridiculous / so it tuneth not with the bishops note off honor / which the D. fighteth for. And this is also answer to my Lord Paulinus: beside that Lord is not referred unto the pronoun yowres, as if the council had said Athanasius was the elders Lord. And if it were / yet if he will thereupon conclude / any superiority of him above thelders off his church: he must by the same reason say / that one simple bishop had superiority over another / seeing Eusebius bishop / calleth Paulinus his fellow bishop his Lord: which is absurd and condemned off himself.

Now I have shown him how bishops were called most honorable Lord's, he hath gotten two or three places where are found titles to the same effect: which is idle / seeing that was confessed. To my answer that Lord with them was no other title, then might be given to a man off mean degree: he saith / most honorable Lord was only given to those in great authority, which is only said / and may easily be confuted / in that Alexander bishop off Alexandria the Metropolitan city / writing to all the church ministers / not bishops only / called them most honorable fellow ministers. That he saith it was not grudged at then that bishops were called by the same titles, that Princes: ys very plain language / and needeth no commentary to show the meaning / saving that he durst not utter all. For if he would have applied his place: he should have said / yt was not grudged at then that bishops were called by more lofty titles then th Emperors: seeing the title he presseth for the bishops / is most precious Lord's, and the Emperor as he saith was only called Lord.

That the house off salutations / was within the bounds off the church appeareth not in Theodoret. His reason / because the houses pertaining to the bishopric were nere the church, is weak. For although all houses pertaining to the bishoprik were near: yet there might be some near / not pertaining thereto. H •• beit if it were belonging to the church / in that word there / is no such note off excellency / whereby yt deserveth to be the porters lodge of our bishops palaces. To that off the bishops bestowing the church goods upon loitering serving men, which should be bestowed upon the universities, and poor both ministers, and other: he saith / and only saith that their number off serving men tendeth to the defense off the realm, honor off the prince, and their own good education. off the princes honor: yt is answered. strength to the realm, they cannot be: seeing the men should be / although they were not nourished by the bishop: especially seeing the bishops house / is an unfit school to train up to warfare. And if the former necessities were helped / and yt thought meet that the church goods should serve the realm that way: all see that yt would rise to more profit / if some were nourished off them / in profession off a Soldier / then that in waiting upon the white Rochet they should rather become white liuered / then fashioned / for that service. Beside that the bishops countenance being so profitable as yt is made / and placed a great parte in this suite off men: it is manifest that his pomp holding diverse at home / which otherwise might be in the field weakeneth rather then strenghneth the realm. For the education they get under them: the corrupt religion of some / the want of Catechising others ignorant in the principles of religion / the leudnes of diverse / the idleness off the most parte / which is in the eyes of all give to plentiful a confutation off that parte. wherein let the reader observe / how unmeet they be to govern dioceses / and Provinces / which have their proper houses so evil ordered: especially seeing the Apostle will not trust him with one parish / which ruleth not his own house well. And the truth ys / that the church ministry is of that trauaill and care / that yt will not suffer the bishops gifts (be they never so great) to be spente in the houshoulding and masterlike charge off such a number: which was no doubt one cause why both the scripture / and the old Canons / shut owt the bishops from this pomp.

Where he saith / the universities, ministers, and poor may otherwise be provided for: when that ys brought to pas / and in such sort as a sufficient number • f learned men may be nourced up to fournish both the church off there ministers / and common wealth off her magistrates / the overplus may (as M. Hoopers counsel is) goo to maintenance off Soldiers, or other necessary uses / advised off by the common wealth. That the canons brought against the bishops pomp, reach to university colleges, forasmuch as there were none such then, as we have now, ys untrue: considering that with other universities every bishops house was (as hath been shown) a college off Students in divinity: and yt ys otherwise insufficient. For I reason not against their pomp / because yt was not used in times paste, but because yt was forbidden. And if he can show / the revenues off Colleges forbidden by the Godly councils: then yt had heue somewhat he saith. Ad also that if the pomp and riot off Colleges / werelike the bishops: yt were likewise worthy / to be spoken against. Jerome / cited against the pomp of bishops receiveth answer / that he spake against the abuse and not thuse. Jerome's words be these: let the readeriudge off his meanig. yt is a foul shame, that before the gates off pore and crucified Christ, Who also eat of other men's meat, the Consuls Sergeantes and Gard should wait: and that the ruler off the Province, should dine better at thy house then in the palace. But if thow pretend to do these things, to the end to beg for the poor: the Secular judge will give more to a church man which kepethe measure and is frugal, then to one which is riche: and reverence more thy holiness, then thy riches, Or if the ruler be such, that he will not hearken to the churchmen ctauing for the poor's relief, but when he is amongst the cupps: I will gladly want such a benefit: and beg off Christ in stead off the judge, who is better and sooner able to help then the judge. I omit that he inueighethe against a church mā / which poor before / becometh riche by the church: and living very homely before / after vsethe delicate fare / with other things to that ende.

Whether this were one cause off the bishops stately pomp that (certain noble and riche men rece •• ed to the ministry, and living somewhat like their former estates) others assayed to be like unto them: whether another cause were for that it being amongst the heathen priests before yt came into the church off the Christians yt was (as diverse other corruptions) taken off them by imitation: whether a third and more higher cause thereof were / that the bravery of the pourpled whore of Rome might both easilier take her seat and faster hold yt, whilst other bishops were made somewhat suitable unto her, which she could not have done if (other bishops left in the simplicity wherein God had appointed them) she had been as an owl amongst the rest of the birds: I say whether these three / are amongst the causes off bringing in the bishops pomp into the church / I leave to the readers judgment. Considering that the D. beside begging / and dissembling the matter / which I goo about to prove: hath nothing. That Christians might as well be thought to have followed Maximinus in building churches, as in sufficiently providing for the ministers: ys to simple / seeing we deny him not sufficient provision. But if he esteem nothing sufficient, unless he be maintained as a lord: let him learn off S. Paul / what is sufficient / and so he shall (I doubt not) fall from his 1000. to a 100. unto thes three causes off the bishoplike statelines I will here ad the fourth: worthy to be observed. M. Bucer showing the incommodities which came / by that the bishops were received to bear civil offices. saith: after they began to occupy the place off princes: they challenged also to them selves their pomp and bravery. So let the reader judge how true yt ys that I said: that our archbishops, bishops, &c. besides the names, have almost nothing commenwith those of elder times: and how if the old bishops were alive, they would not know one annother. For that they would think ours princes, and ours would esteem them as hedge prīestes. What I allow, off the old Canons, and what I disallow, although he dissemble: yet he knoweth better then he would / I having at large declared yt in this Tractate.

The first diuis. I o •• it. In the next / to that the Apostle called the Corint. to a mo •• rate estimation of the ministers (mean between contempt and to much exalting them) upon occasion that the false Apostles were to much lifted up: he saith / yt was a partial affection to wards their teachers not in respect off any title, which is frivolous, for if it be denied generally / that they should not be so mounted: then the way is stopped against titles and offices, and other means whatsoever / whereby that may grow. Beside that the D. is afraid as appeareth by his answer to be brought unto a moderation and mean between contempt and excessive estimation. Where I show / that as the false Apostles pomp in preaching, lifting them up above the faithful ministers, caused the faithful ministers to be contemned: so the pomp of our bishops, lifted up above the rest off the pastors, to be a ready way to bring their ministry owt off credit: and that as that gave occasion to the Corinthes to say, I hold off such a teacher, &c. so this giveth occasion to say, I will believe my Lord Bishop or my lord Archbishop, whatsoever our parson say: for they be wise men and learned: I say to all this beside wandering and unlikely slanders there is not a word: seeing I trust / it appeareth to all / that we give no occasion by any pomp that the people in magnifying off us should condemn others.

The next division I leave to the reader. Where against the D. slander off the Admonitions intent to take away princes, I shown that his practice against us, is the same with the Pharisees against our Savior Christ, which being rubbed for their ambition accused him as no friend off Caesar. He answerethe that we are not Christ, which is ridiculous / that the case is not like, whereof let the reader judge: seeing he is (as they were) honor pricked. Whether our Archbishop dwell as far asonder almost, from the civil magistrate, as Rome and Jerusalem: let the reader judge off that alleged. likewise what a cōning stargaser the D. is / which saw in the star off my forehead that the admonition intended the overthrow off the civil magistrate. The next off the canon off Antioch Council, is answered, but where I show that that Canon is not like to be justifiable considering that it sought falsely, •• edite off the name off the apostles: he answereth not. Unless this be his answer: that yt is the natural Canon off the apostles. And in deed his words so sound / for thus he saithe. That canon off the Apostles is repeated in this council: as diverse off the Nice be repeated off other councils. Which how shamfully yt is spoken: may appear off that we have before disputed off the antiquity off the metropolitan. How dangerously to the overthrow off our faith / whilst we are borne in hand / that there be canons of the Apostles not contained in the canonical scripture: all that have judgment / may understand / and yt is in parte before declared. I omit that yt is clean contrary to his doctrine off the archbishop: whereby he maketh him an officer / changeable at the will of the Prince. For if that be thApostles Canon: there is no ministry in the hold scripture / which hath better evidence for an unchangeable perpetuity / then yt.

That M. Bucer is wholly for us in this point: I refer the reader to that before written. The place alleged here would have made little for him: if he had not kept his custom. For where Bucer speaketh off obedience to be given by the bishops to the metropolitan: he hath left owt these words after their manner. By which conning / he may prove the Acthiopian afaire: man because he hath white teeth. For all see: that M. Bucer by these words / delayed the authority off the metropolitanship. And if they were not plain enough: yet others in the same place are. that the patriarches were set over the metropolitans, as they over the bisho▪ but that nether, could do anything save only admonish those over whō they were set: and if they obeyed not, to complain of them to the synod. After he condemneth / that the Patriarchs toke unto them the ordination off the bishops nigh them: and by means thereof, by little and little gat some jurisdiction over those bishops, and their churches. So appeareth / that if there be any difference here (touching these offices) between us / and M. Bucer: yt is only / that where we affirm yt good / that the presidentship should be chosen at every meeting / as that which cometh nearer the apostles example / and more safe against Tyranny: M▪ Bucer may seem to make yt a standing and continual office / set •• in one man. For as touching his authority / wherein the chief point off the controversy lieth: yt findeth as small grace with M: Bucer / as with us.

Whatsoever is here / is answered: saving the contrariety assigned between this / an Apostle was above an Evangelist, and that there was chiefrie even amongst the apostles / in that one labored more / and had more excellent gifts then another: which how manifest an argument yt is that the archbishop hath robbed him off all sense let the reader judge. Sauing also that he signifieth that the difference between the Apostles must be in authority not in excellency off gifts or labors. Considering that there was amongst them in those points a most perfect equality. Which how absurd yt is may be considered in that some had the gift off continency / which other some had not / some travailed with their hands for their living / which other did not: and in that S. Paul / is said expressly to have labored more then they all. To the next beside bare affirmations and slanders often repeated: he answereth nothing. To the ninth: I answer not.

That the greek word 2. Gal. 2. signifieth for the most parte to seem: cannot be denied. Whether there be any necessity to change this usual and ordinary signification in that place: I leave to the reader. Seeing first the same word in that chapter / is twice so turned: where the same both matter / and persons are spoken off. seeing also yt is confessed / by M. Beza which corrected yt: that the apostle speaketh not according to his own but according to the sense off his adversaries. Thirdly / seeing the cause which moved Erasmus and M. Beza to depart from that translation for that there is nothing joined to declare, wherein that seeming and apparance should be) is not so urging. For S. Paul useth often such short / and cut speeches: which are to be supplied by other places off his: as M. Beza himself showeth in the same chap. verse. 6. I omit the number off interpreters / which have followed the old in this behalf. Howbeit I confess / that if I had known that I had in this pointe to do with the Geneva / M. Beza's / and Erasmus translation / and Budies authority: I would (for reverence off their learning) have use▪ an easier word in dissenting. nether will I strive about yt / wit • • he D. yt making little ether off or on / to the matter in hand: seeing the reason (alleged by the adm. and maintained by me) standeth still against the archbishop. For if Saint Paul / were in nothing inferior unto Saint Peter / one of those chief there mentioned: and if the making of S. Peter / to have authority over Saint Paul / be the overthrow of S. Paul's argument: then yt followeth / that thadm. aptly alleged that place against the archbishop. Nether can it be alleged / to prove any degree of honor the in ministry, not only because the price which the Galatheans had off those by suggestion off the false Apostles / was excessive in that they preferred those three before S. Paul: but also for that off men in the same degree and authority one may justly be honored more then another / in respect off gifts more excellent in him then in the rest.

Where I shown / that our Sa. Christ's calling is avowed just because yt was contained in scripture: he saith the apostel only shown by scripture that he intruded not himself but was called off God. Where the testimonies put as causes off this that he did not glorify him self: must be also causes off his vocation / and that in such sort that if those and such like testimonies had not been / his vocation could not have been justified. where he saith none can justify his calling if it were not lawful without such a personal testimony as our Sau. Christ had: we press not all the circumstances. Ther being no more in that kind off office / but he alone: the testimony off it / must needs be personal. Yt shall be sufficient for him: to show that the Archbishops have the same testimony off the word / which the bishops or pastors. To the next I answer not: In the next / there is nothing but bare affirmations / answered before.

To that alleged that if all the church were in one Province, and one over them all in travailing with an archbishop he should bring forth a pope: he answereth / that cannot be, the church being scattered throwghout the world. Which I grant / having respect unto God's election / and calling hidden from us: but that the church established in a visible and apparent from / may not (which God fo •• id) be brought into one land / I hitherto hear no reason, he sa • th further / that the church after the ascension being in Jerusalem only, if yt had had one bishop, should by my reason likewise have had a pope: which is untrue. For we join with the pastor / (and that in equal authority of government) thelders off the church: condemning all monarchical government in the pastor. The rest is answered. The next / is answered before. Accused for charging the adm. to have used the papists reasons, he saith he may well do yt: but reason he can show none. He denieth that he would prove one archbishop over a province by one king over a realm: yet beside he flatly affirmeth that the form off government in the church must be according to that of the common wealth, driven to the wall / yt is his common refuge / that by the same reason we easte away Archbishops, we may likewise depose kings. His whole answer almost here / is cloured off diverse divisions before: where he hath reply. And yet such is his forehead / that although he have here set before me a charger off Colewories: yet for answering them with repetition off one line / in as few words as if I had only referred him to the former treatise / he shameth not to say / that I use nothing almost but repetitions. To that alleged out of Calvin / that the church doth clean one part unto another under our Sau. Christ's dominion, according to the order and form off policīe, which he hath prescribed, and therefore not by a bishop of a diocese or archbishop, as those which he prescribed not: he answereth / that he speaketh off the spiritual government, and not off the external. whereby he maketh Calvin a trifling disputer. For the Papists which will have the pope a ministerial head under Christ / Confess that he alone governeth inwardly and secretly by his spirit: but that their pope is a means / whereby he doth yt. Therefore Cal. in saying that / that is done by the order and form off policy prescribed off God: stopped up that corner against them. And beside that yt will be hard for him to show / that the inward working off God by his spirit is called an order and form off policy: let him answer where that order and form off policy off the lords secret working with his spirit / is prescribed: seeing the work thereof / ys as the voice of the wind which we hearing can not tell from whence yt cometh nor whet ••• yt will: and seeing the lord commanding his ministers to do their dwtie / reserveth to him self the manner and order / how and when he will work in wardly. Secondly he answereth that this policy off our Bishop and Archbishop is prescribed, although not particularly expressed in his word: as if the force off this word prescribed were not more then / contemed / and as much as his particularly expressed. But I have shown / that he requireth also / that all church officers be expressed in the word: and what expressed meaneth is before observed. The reader to make up his mouth with / and as yt were for a ban quetting dish. hath the next whole chapter off repetitions. which ys answered / and so is the next unto yt.

Thus we are (by the grace off god) come / to an ende off this treatise / wherein let the reader judge / whether yt hath been proved that the offices off archbishops and archdeacons be unlawful / that they came not into the church 300. years after the ascension off our Sa. Christ: that there names are likewise unlawful by the word / forbid̄ by ancient councils / not to be found in any ancient writing before 400. years approached. Further whether that every congregation / owght to have a bishop: that one only may have two or moe: that they owght all to have like titles and authority. Sauing that in their meetings for orders sake one by consent of the rest governeth that action / in such sort as is declared. That all these pointes off the bishop have ground off the word off God / and moste off thē shown to have remained some time after thapostels / and the traces long after. Finally / whether that even the elder Bishops when they were declined from the sincerity off gods ordinance / and the archbishops and archdeacons which he never ordained: were much more tolerable then ours: as those whose authority was without comparison les / and pomp. none at all.

Discipline Ciuil.

THe magistrate ought to be severer / in punishing offenses under the gospel: then under the law cxj. cxviij. Neglecters off the word / are punishable by the word lxx. The law off capital punishments / remaineth xcviij. Contemners off the word / ought to be put to death lxviij. Murderers cij. Incestuous / and adulterous persons c. The punishing off the breaches off the second Table by death / and not off the first: is to begin / at the wrong end cxvij.

Discipline Ecclesiastical.

THe Ecclesiastical discipline is prescribed in the word / as the doctrine ccccxl. Aswell under the gospel as under the law ibid. Amplified by comparison off the Ark / Tabernacle / Temple ccccxliiij. Confirmed by examples off David / and Solomon / which attempted nothing in the church government / without the express word off God / ccccxliiij. Also / off others / lxxxvj.

That the form thereof / owght not to be always / according to the form off the common wealth cxxx. clix. ccxcviij. dciiij. That yt ys not always convenient / that the form of the common wealth / should beframed to the form off the church government ccxxvij. That the church government / is one off the three marks off the church liij. That yt is safely taken / from the Apostles times: and daūgerously from the first 500. years after them. That the external government off the church / is evil distinguished from the spiritual. That / yt hindereth not the civil discipline ii.

Calling.

THe callings vn •• the ministry / are defined off in the word of God. For tha 〈◊〉 • gifts necessary for the government off the church / fall into the offices prescribed in yt 462. Where are rehearsed the proper gifts / whereby they are severed amongst thē selves. This is also shown / by that it is not lawful / to diminish those the lord hath set: and therefore not to ad unto them cccclxiiij. Likewise by the demand the Pharisees made unto John ccccxxxvj.

A calling lawful / and yet extraordinary. page xxx •• j. The Apostles / Prophets / and Evangelists are evil distinguished / by the D. cccvij. There can be none off these functions now without an extraordinary calling ccciij. The same could not be a bishop / Evangelist and Apostle at once cccxviij. Epaphroditus was no Apostle / in that sense that S. Peter was ccciiij. An Evangelist could not without his fault be made a bishop much les could an Apostle 321. Timothy was an Evangelist and no bishop cccxij. The abusing off the writers / both old / and new: to prove Apostles / Prophets / and Evangelists ordinary ministers cccxxvij. What manner a men they were / which after those sent forth into the whole world / called them selves Apostles cccviij. Hereupon / we refuse the callings of Archbishop otherwise called Metropolitā / and our kind of bishop / Archdeacō / and dean: as those which taken even for the very principal church officers / have no ground in the word of God Proued / in that they are contained in nether of the places off the Ephesians / or Corinthians / where all the ministries Ecclesiastical are described / ccc • xlix. ccccliij. Whether refer / that the archbishop and bishop are new ministries ccccxxxviij. Likewise that the first step / to this kind off bishoprik / began at Alexandria: and not in Zion or Jerusalem / and that it was after the Apostles times dxlviij. Also the first step of preeminence to an archbishoprik / over many bishops: was but a little before the Nicene Council cccclxxxv.

That both this bishop and archbishop / had their beginning by bare custom: and not by the institution off God / cccclxxxv. dlxviij. These two last pointes being expressly shown off the bishops / and archbishops: may be easily understanded to be true in the Archdeacons / and deanes by that dj. dxxxvj. diiij. Yt ys further shown off the archbishop that h • was not (in steed of Archflamins) instituted by S. Peter (as 〈◊〉 pretended) cccclxix. Where is shown that there were no Ar ••• lamins under the Romain Empire cccclxxj. not in England / especially in the time supposed cccclxxij. We refuse them also / for that they exercise dominion. Forbidden precisely unto Ecclesiastical persons 20. Mat. and 1▪ Pet. 5. ccccxxj. ccccxxxj. Declared in the example off S. Peter which had no authority given him above the rest off the Apostles / but was in such respect equal dcvij.

Here are confuted / the ends off instituting this authority. Whereoff one is pretended / to assemble rhe Synods / and to propound the matters dcxij. dlxxxij. Wherto belongeth / that of those otherwise equal / it is meet (to avoid confusion) that one by choice of the rest / should rule the action: and that yt is not meet / that this should be perpetual ccccxxij. Which is con •• • ed by the example off S. Peter / chosen thereto by the Apostles / and not perpetually dcxcvij: made plain by the examples off the elder / and french churches now dxi • x. The other pretended cause is to remedy contentions ccccxlv • ii▪ dxlix. dl. dlxxi • ii dlxxxij. Here also is shown / that he is the cause off contention dlxxix. Which being shown in the bishop and archbishop: pertaineth in part also / to the archdeacon / and dean.

Further against this dominion serveth / that they are fellow servants / fellow brethren in office ccccxx viii. dxlv.

Also / for that order / and degrees / stand without them ccccxxvij dcij. This ys further declared by comparison of the elder archbishops / and bishops with ours dxciiij. dcxliiij. Namely of Cyprians dxlvj. and Jerome's dlxviij. Likewise of the elder Archdeacons / with ours dij. And deanes with ours diiij.

That the Nicene Council / is far from maintaining / the authority off our metropolitan dlxij. So are the Councils off Antioch / and Arles dlxv. That Epiphanius Archbishop / stood not in authority: but in excellency off gifts dlx.

Here upon we condemn (as in all Ecclesiastical ministers) so in these four / all lofty titles: as those which are annexed to dominion. Wherunto pertaineth: that names are not always indifferent 408 And first / the giving high titles of civil honor: as those which put a differē / •• between the civil and ecclesiast. officer ccccvj. ccccxxiij: As forbid▪ 〈◊〉 precisely 22. Luk. cccciiij / namely / that the bishop / Archbishops / • nd (by the same reason) deanes / ought not to be called lords / having regard to the use of our country ccccvij. dclv. Also that the title off Prince / part off the Archbishops / and Archdeacons name: breaketh upon the possession off the civil magistrate ccccvij.

Secondly / in Ecclesiastical titles / we deny unto them to be called heads off the churches. Where is shown first / that that title agreeth unto no simple creature. The causes whereof are ccccxij. The absurdities which follow the giving off it to any other then to our San. Christ / ccccxj. The approbation off writers new and old that he is only head ccccxiij. The same shown off the name off Archbishop / cccix. Hitherto belongeth that it was not so sone in the west partes / as in the East / ccccxciiij That yt is not shown to have been given to any (but with condemning off yt) in any allowed writer until about 380. years / ccccxcv. Wherto pertaineth / that new writers / giving yt to ministers of elder times / are shown to have done it according to the times / wherein / not whereof they wrote / cccclxxxj. ccccxcv. Likewise / that the name metropolitan / is not off the same value with archbishop. cccclxxxvij. And that it is not shown to have been / before the Council off Nice ccccxciiij. Also that the Councils off Carthage / holden about ccl. and 400. years: do forbid this name ccccxcviij. Finally hither pertaineth / that off the counterfeit canons / off the Nicene Council handled cccclxxxviij. And the counterfeit book off Ambrose / which mentioneth the archbishop ccccxcj. Likewise the name of Arch deacon / is not shown / until about 400. years / page 502. Nor off the dean / until about the same time / page diiij.

Furthermore / upon this that dominion is forbidden them: is also forbid̄ / their other pomp off lije. Wherof unto the three causes assigned in my former book xcviij: Is added the fourth •• 0 off this book. This ys shown by comparison off the elder bishops with ours in their apparel / houses / household stuf / fare / train off men dcxlxij / &c. Further that the most part off the riches / wherewith this pomp is maintained: is the common treasure off the church / for mainteinance off the mi • sters which want / off the poor / and off the universities: and th … in this point / they have succeeded unto those / which got the 〈◊〉 sacrilege dcxlix.

Further we refuse the archbishop and archdeacon: for that they have larger charges / then they are or can be sufficient for. Hitherto pertaineth that all the ordinary ministers owght to be appointed to a place: and that that place is a particular congregation / no diocese / nor province / ccxcvj. ccclx Where the D. corruption drawn from the Papists is confuted. Hether also pertaineth / that Denis did not devide parishes / Provinces and dioceses ccclviij. Hether also pertaineth / that by the word off God there may and owght (if the case require) be moe bishops in one particular congregation / •• n one dxxvij. The traces thereof in the church / long after the Apostles time / page dxxviij. dl •• .

Likewise that there owght / (by the word off God) to be in every particular congregation one bishop / dxv. Hether refer the causes / off the falling away of this order: which were naught dxx. Likewise / that care over churches / inferreth not necessarily charge over them dcxxij. That the jurisdiction they had owt off their particular churches: was nothing but a reverend estimation page dxxxij. Hitherto pertaineth / the use off the church / long after the Apostles times ccc. Also that the elder bishops / were called bishops off parishes cccclxxv • ii. The examples off Demetrius dxlij. off Cyprians bishop / a • most through the whole 3. chapter off the last Tra. off Cornelius 540. 556. of Dionysius Alexandrinus 558 Gregory 5 • 9 Peter Alexandrinus • 60, Athanasius 56 • Ambrose 492. Al which alleged by the D. as bishops off provinces / were ether of one particular church / or off the churches in one only ci •• e: or (at the least) had far les compass by the twentieth part / then our bishops. This use is shown to have continued in the Deacons diij.

We are also confirmed in this refusal / by authority off a number off the reformed churches dcxviij. off the Godly writers / which have particularly spokē against / ether all / or some of these offices. As Jerome 598. M. Wicleue 616. Luther 617. Barns / and Hooper 526. Bucer 556. 567. 662. Musculus 549. 598. Calvin 566. 613. &c. 629. The bishop off Salisbury 568. Beza 505. Bullinger 426. 567. Hitherto belong •• that the answerers reasons in this cause / are drawn (almost 〈◊〉 from the Papists. Namely from Pighius / Harding / and other •• pistes / against the Catholics 414. 426. 446 573. 616. 622. And from Harding / against the bishop of Salisbury. 425. 430. 453. 472. 497. 500 599 601. 611. 612.

Ecclesiastical election.

IT owght to be / with consent of the church: first for that yt ys / the institution off God. This is shown owt off the 14. Acts 194. Here is disputed off the signification of lifting up of hands 199 Also out of the 8. 1. Corinthes 209. and Acts 6 134. for that the lightest charges off the church were not done but by consent off yt: where the exception taken from Pighius is answered. Likewise owt of j. Acts 12 • . Considering that in that / Election which was made immediately by the lord / the churches judgment was not passed by. This ys strenghtned by Nomb. 8. 220. Leviticus • . Nombers 20. 222. Hitherto pertaineth that which the D. alledgeth to the contrary owt off Titus 1. and Timoth. 1. 5▪ cclxv. drawn from Pighius cclxx. Whereto belongeth that the scripture sometime attributeth to the chief in an action / that is common to moe then to them: confirmed by the manner off speaking both in scripture and otherwise: also by the judgment of Calvin / Musculus 196. Beza 135. Bullinger 197. Further that which the D bringeth owt off 13 Act. taken from Hosius cclxxxiij. Likewise that the form off the Election should be other now: then in time off the Apostles ccxxxv. Where the number off Christians / and (through the number) tumult in elections is confuted. Also that of the difference of religion and manners / between Christians then and now: taken from Hosius ccxlj▪ Where is handled / the shutting forth of papists / Dronkards and Whoremongers Further that the estate off the church: was not then popular ccxlix That the confirmation off the election by the magistrate / altereth not the form cclxij Hether also refer / the counterfeit Ambrose: drawn from Pighius / off the diuersyty off government off the church then / and now cclix.

This is confirmed / of the effects off the church Election: because yt breedeth assurance off the minister / in his calling: maketh the people / more obedient to him / as Musculus confesseth cclx. Causeth the Godly / to love him 〈◊〉 : and bridleth the Hypocrites from outrage against him … xix. Hitherto refer that the D bringeth off the supposed contention / that this will breed cxxxiiij cxlvij cclxxxviij. Likewise of the comparison / between the effects off our bishops elections: with those off the churches cxlvij. ccxxvij. Likewise that the errors off the churches election: may be commodiously remedied by the churches hard by / by the Synods / and (if they fail) by the magistrate 23 • .

That it is the churches liberty as Musculus saith cclx

Also / that the consent off the parliament / touching the bishops election: ys not the churches ecclesiastical election: Where the D doth but mock the church ccxxv.

That certain things / ar variable in this election: hindereth not the perpetuity off the churches consent cxxxvij That the ignorance off the church is not such / as both hinder the churches election cxi. cxlvj. ccxxix. Nether corruption of religion such cxivij. Nor of affections. ccxxix.

This is also shown by comparison off the churches election with that which is commonly done in civil affairs ccxxiiij. confirmed by Peter Martyr ccxxviij.

Last off all this is confirmed / by old custom ccxx. by Councils Nycene cclvij. cclxxxiiij. Constantinople / Carthage / Toledo / alleged page xxxvij. off my first book: off Paris / Orleans with diverse other / ccxx. Emperors decrees cciij / Ignatius cciij. Cyprian cxxv. ccx • ii. Where is / the D. exception taken owt off Pighius / Gregory Nazianzen / Ambrose ccixxx. Chrysostom cxciij. Jerome cclxxvj. Augustine cclxxviij. The exception against which testimony is takē from Pighius. Oecumenius ccij Luther ccxiiij. Archbishop off Reines / • usanus / Celestinus / Leo ccliij.

Off the authorities / which he useth: that off Chrysostom upon the 6 off the Acts / is answered cxciij. That owt of his book de sacerdorio / and S. John drawn both from Hosius cclxxxviij. ccxcj. The rest ether are nothing to purpose / or are shown flat against him / for us: as the Canon attributed to the Apostles / off the Ancyran / and Antioch can Council ccxv • ii. Calvin cxxvj. ccxvj. ccxxij Zwingli •• us and Bulllinger cxcvj. Beza cxci • ii. Musculus ccixiij. and toe example off the Tigurine election ccixv. Differing in some point f •• m us are shown greatly against him.

Examin ••• on, another part off election.

That the ecclestasticall ministers examinatiō / is instituted in the word: ys shown owt off Acres j. cxxj. 6. Act cxxvij. 1. Timothy iii. cxliiij. Whether pertaineth / the example off Jeroboam clxi. Althowgh they be known / yet meet they should be offered unto yt cxxij. yea and examined / although some good knowledge be before exxviij.

That it owght not to be made by one only: as appeareth by the former testimonies Hether belong the reasons of ignorance / corruption in religion / and affection / noted in the former title: as those which are common to this / as well as to the churches consent in election. This is explained / by comparison off Civil affairs res. cxx • x / &c. clix. Confirmed by example off S. Paul xvj. Act. cliiij. Whether pertaineth / that alleged of the D. that S. Paul was received at the testimony of Barnabas 160. Especially this examination owght not to be made by the Archdeacon / in the election off a bishop cliiij. And that the receiving of a bishop at his testimony / came from Rome cxliij.

That in the examination with us / the church ys utterly shut owt: howsoever the D / pretend otherwise cliiij.

Knowen adulterers owght not to be received into the ministry clxxvj. Nor ministers fallen into Idolatry cxlv. The law of Moses / in that behalf: owght rather to be observed under the gospel / then under the law cixxvj. The ends hereof clxxiiij. Here is handled / the example of Judas clxviij. clxxiiij. The Pharisees clxviij. Off S. Paul and Peter clxxiiij. Likewise are handled S. Peters denial clxxvij. and the gentiles Idolatry clxxxiiij. Increased by the D. to the end that the Popish Idolatry should semeles. Likewise / that the decree off restoring ministers fallen into Idolatry: was not of the Council of rebaptization clxxxij. That they which are new come to religion owght not to be received to the ministry off the word clxxx.

That a prouf may be taken off the bishops ability in teaching / before he be ordained. cl. That if they be not able to teach: they owght not by the word to be ordained ccclxvij.

Hether perceineth / that is unmeet / to … own ministers their Care chism ccclxiiij.

Hether belongeth the treatise off rea • ing the holy scriptures where first ys shown / the use of reading them in the church ccclxxv. That reading off them is not able ordinarily to hold the people from pining ccclxiij. Nether can reading of prayers / or admynistration off the Sacraments without preaching / ccclxiiij. That simple readers / ordained for pastors: cannot properly be called watchmen ccclxxvj. That reading ys not preaching ccclxxxvij. Against the phrenefie / that bare reading ys better then preaching / clxxxv. That bare reading ys not so good / as preaching / ccclxxiiij not to the learned them selves / ccclxxxiiij. much les reading of the homilies / cccxciij. Which are not meet to be red in the church openly cccxcij. As are not also the Apoctypha ccxcviij: especially considering their corruptions / page cccc.

Hether pertaineth / the judgment off the churches / off unlearned ministers ccclxiiij.

The causes off the unlearned ministry / with us ccclxiij. ccclxv. ccclxxj.

Ordination.

ORdination doth not belong to the bishop alone cclxxiiij.

Against the Bishop commanding to receive the holy ghost in ordaining ccxcij.

Residence.

IN the residence off the ministers / that off the Pastor is particularly handled 4. Tract. page cccxxx. Where our reasons are maintained.

That it is the institution off God in the old Test. cccxlij. In the new cccxliiij. That the calling of the church (which ys also the lords) ys to that place only cccxxxij. That he owght to be residēt / that thereby greater love might be wrought cccxiv: That having better knowledge / off the estate off his flock he may better do all duties towards them cccxxxix. That with seeing the blessing off God / he might be stirred to further diligence cccxlv: That his flock having more famyliaryty might have easier acces ibid. That he might be 〈◊〉 •• mple of life cccxliij.

Proued also by, … ontinual duty off preaching: Whether pertaineth that treatise / wherein / ys shown; that yt ys convenient yt should always god before the administering of the holy Sacraments cccxlviij. Hether may be referred the comparison of the diligence of the elder Bishops in preaching / dcxlvij. Whether also refer the unlawful power of the bishop / touching licences to preach: whereby yt is in his will / whether he will give the pastor leave to preach or no: considering that it is a necessary duty of the pastor / and the principal cause off his residence cccxlj. That he must admonish both the wicked / and the godly: strengthen both the weak and the strong cccxlj. Comfort in temptation cccxlvij. Therefore that the bare reading off the scripture is no sufficient supply in his absence cccxliij: Nether his care cccxxxij. That the conscience off the pastor and contentment of the people: ys no good rule off doing these duties cccxxx.

Nether belongeth that the pastor owght not to go here / and there to preach: where he thinketh good. Where ys shown / that God doeth not always call to places where one may do most good: no not in the extraordinary callings / much les in the ordinary cccxxxvj. That this going about to preach (as yt ys assigned of the Answerer) taketh away the difference between the pastors calling / and the extraordinary functions cccxxxij. That those extraordinary callings do not make against the pastors residence / as yt is assigned off us cccxxxj. cccxxxix: That they rather make for yt cccxxxij. cccxxxiij. cccxxxv.

That ordinary deputies are overthrown by this residence / cccliiij whether may be referred / that dlxxxvj. of deputies: Likewise pluralities of benefices ccclvj. Hether refer / that absence for some causes / and some conditions: do not overthrow residēce cccliij.

This ys also proved / by comparison of shepardes / and watchmen cccxxxvj. Where ys shown / how shamefully the answerer abuseth the doctrine off God's holy election: and of final perseverance of those / which are once called cccxxxviij. Also that by his answer the pastor after he hath admonished them need never come to them: nor yet leave any deputy cccxli.

Likewise off the eye / and soul cccxlvij. 〈◊〉 yt as ys precious a work to keep those gotten / as to get oath • •• ich be in ignorance: and more agreeable / unto the pastors of … e.

The authority off Councils / and fathers cccxxxiiij. cccliiij.

Ecclesiastical correction.

A part off that Ecclesiastical discipline / which standeth in corrections: is commanded is. Math. 66.