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COLONELL FIENNES His REPLY to a Pamphlet ENTITVLED, AN ANSWER TO Colonel Nathaniel Fiennes RELATION concerning his Surrender of the City and Castle of Bristol by Clem. Walker.
Which said Answer is here Reprinted verbatim.
Ordered to be Printed.
London, Printed for Thomas Underhill, 1643.
The Epistle to the Reader.
H Aving taken notice of a printed Pamphlet (so the Author himself calleth it) set forth in answer to a Relation which I made in the House of Commons, concerning my surrender of the Castle and City of Bristol (which hath long walked in the dark, and now at length is peeped out, when the Author might have an excuse to say, that his witnesses that should justify it are gone away with Sir William Waller. ) I earnestly desired the House that this business of Bristol might be heard at a Council of War, whereupon it was ordered accordingly, I having formerly desired the same of my L. General, who granted my request, but it could not be done till such time as his Army returned to a settled Quarter, but now I hope upon the return of his Excellency, the Order of the House of Commons, and a Petition of myself, and most of my chief Officers to that purpose, this matter shall be shortly heard at a Council of Warr, and therefore shall content myself with a few Marginall Notes, in answer to that lying Pamphlet, referring the full trial of the truth to a Council of War, till when, I doubt not but every wise man will suspend his judgment, and then he shall clearly see who hath been the liar, and who hath been the Coward.
Nath: Fiennes.
Die Sabbati 25o. September, 1643.
IT is this day Ordered by the Commons assembled in Parliament, That it be left to my L. General (at the Request and desire of Colonel Fiennes ) to hear and examine the business concerning the Surrender of Bristol.
H. Elsyng. Cler. Parl. D. Com.
Mr Walkers Epistle to the Reader.
Reader,
T Hough this Answer cost but few hours to compose it, yet was it a work of some days to collect the materials thereof out of the several Reports of many principal Gentlemen and Commanders present in Bristol, when it was besieged; And when this Pamphlet was ready for the Press, I found the Press obstructed, whereby I was enforced to keep it in a month before I could be delivered of this Birth, Some malicious Juno sitting cross legged at the labor.
This is a lie, if meant of Col. Fiennes or any of his friends to his knowledge.
This is the reason it cometh out so late after the Relation, that it may seem to rub over an old sore, whose smart is almost past. But Truth is a sluggard that uses to lie long in bed, after her base sister Falsehood is up and stirring: Yet when Truth riseth, with her sober constant pace, she will soon overtake Falsehood, and tread on her heels. Reader, it is in thy discretion that Truth lose not her grace for want of novelty. Although she come forth with this further disadvantage, that almost all those Gentlemen and Commanders that should wait upon her justification, are going out of Town with Sir William Waller, yet let Truth be welcome without attendants, without ornaments, it being one of her most natural ornaments to be stark naked.
Thine, Cle. Walker.
An Answer to Col. Nathaniel Fiennes Relation concerning his Surrender of the City and Castle of Bristol. With Col. Fiennes his Reply to the said Pamphlet.
S Ince the heart of man is deceitful above all things, and none can know the issues thereof, we will not search over-curiously into the desires of the late Governor of that unhappy City of BRISTOL, Colonel NATHANIEL FIENNES, Whether he affected the Government or no? Yet seeing it is a point controverted by himself, in his Relation, pag. 3. we will be bold to say,
FIrst, His undermining Col. Thomas Essex, whom he struck into the box, and laid himself in his room: In this manner Colonel Fiennes brought a letter to Bristol, from my Lord General, authorizing him to seize on, and send up prisoner Colonel Essex, then Governor of that City, and this was so under-hand carried, that the Deputy-Lieutenants and Committee of Parliament, then resident in Bristol, to assist Colonel Essex in the Government, were never consulted with to know what cause of suspicion they found in him: This was an affront put upon the Deputy-Lieutenants in point of integrity, or discretion and industry.
A lie and scandal cast upon my Lo. General and his Order.
Secondly, His putting Creatures of his own (neither Soldiers, nor men known in those parts) into Bristol Castle, to make the government more entirely his own, contrary to the desires both of the Town and Country, which were to have a Gentleman of honor and integrity, such as both the Town and Country could confide in, placed there.
Two Lye.
Thirdly, His many artifices, to lessen the Reputation and abridge the power of the Committees and Gentlemen of the Country (whereof more afterward.)
A Lye.
Fourthly, His underhand endeavors to draw a Territory of twenty miles compass as annexed to that City, to be within his sole command, and to make it independent upon the rest of the adjacent counties, thereby to exclude Sir W. Waller and all others.
A Lye.
These considerations (we say) make us think he was as jealous of his Government there, as any man is of his wife, and that he would brook no rivall therein; nor can his letters sent to his Father oversway our belief; Father, and son being Testes Domestici, in the nearest degree; But to take off this conceit (in his fourth page) he tells us he made certain Propositions to the Gentlemen of the adjacent Counties for the settling and maintaining a Garrison there, to which most of the Gentlemen consented; It is answered, he made a certain Proposition in general to that purpose, to the Gentlemen of Somerset and Gloucester, and the Letter dated the 20 of March, 1642. (published in the Governors Relation, page 13.) was sent to the Lord Say, and the like to his Excellency the Lord General, to see how the said general Proposition would take: But when the said Gentlemen expected to be again advised withal for reducing the said general into particular Propositions, he having got the start of them, secretly sent up particulars of his own framing, (the same (it may be) which he hath published in his Relation, page 17. entitled, A draught of the Ordinance ) whereby he endeavored to weaken the power of the Deputy-Lieutenants and Committees, and to make Bristol, and the Countries adjacent for 20 miles compass his Territory, himself in all matters of moment, being of the Quorum:
A Lye, As shall be proved under his own hand, and the hands of divers Gentlemen both of Somerset and Glocestershire.
For example, in his said draught of the Ordinance, he projected, that
First, the Garrison which should have consisted of 3 Foot Regiments (besides Horse) (whereof one to be raised in the County of Somerset, under the command of Colonel Alexander Popham, another in the County of Gloucester ) should be raised by the Governor only.
Secondly, the money raised in the Eastern-Division of Somerset, in Barkely-Division in Gloucester, and in the Cities of Bristol and Bath, upon the weekly Assessment, Twentieth part and Sequestration; nay and upon Excises and new Imposts, should be assigned only for the use of that Garrison,
A Lye, If there was a surplissage it was to go to other uses.
with further provision in the Ordinance, that if all this be not enough, it should be made up out of the said Counties respectively: and the Committees appointed to pay the charges of the said Garrison and fortifications being valued and made known to them by the said Governor of Bristol, whose Warrant and Receipt should be a sufficient discharge.
Thirdly, The Treasurers of the said Divisions not to issue out any monies without the concurring warrant of Col: Fiennes Governor.
A lie, Only such monies at were to be employed upon the Garrison and Fortifications of Bristol.
Fourthly, The Trained-Bands and Volunteers of the said Divisions not to be drawn forth upon service, either into the City of Bristol or Country, but by the like warrant.
See now what power was left to the said Committees or Deputy Lieutenants even in their own Counties, and over their own men and monies, upon which Colonel Fiennes had not encroached in this his draught of an Ordinance; Again page 4. he complains that Sir William Waller drew forth Colonel Essex Regiment, and all the Troopes of Horse: we conceive Sir William Waller drew forth only Col: Essex his Troope of Red Coates, being not above 30 or 40 and his foot Regiment being incompleate, the one half whereof never marched out of Town, and were entertained by the Governor still: page 5.
3 Lyes, 1 Captain Longes and Captain Coxes Troops were drawn out, and Major Laugrishes also commanded out.
Sir William Waller told Col: Fiennes before Col: Popham, that he desired only 6 Companies.
2 Lyes, Langrish was cleared by a Counsel of War at Bathe.
* Not against an Army, though he had received the benefit of those propositions, which he never did, and that was one main cause of the loss of the Town.
2 Lyes, He never declared any such thing.
It shall be proved that some did it upon that ground.
A lie, They went to fetch supplies round about by the Lands end.
Col: Steevens never acquainted Col: Fiennes, and his brother affirmeth that he bid him take his choice of any room in the Castle.
3 Lyes: There were only 3 Companies of Col: Fiennes his Regiment, not a man of Col: Pophams, and the 300 or 400 remaining of Sir William Wallers were part of the 1000. If M. Walker that was a Sommersersetshire Gentleman, and constantly resided in the Town before, had not most valiantly run out of the Town when the enemy came before it.
A base lie all along.
A base lie, and scandalous to the Parliament and my L. General.
Hereupon the Gentry forbore to intermeddle with affairs, and the whole Town and Country Were filled with jealousies and indignations; and where he affirms he had not one penny of money to pay his soldiers: This causeth admiration in all men, who have observed what strange and unheard of ways were used, and what number of sponges and horseleeches were continually employed to suck both from the Town and Country, some devices to raise monies we will set down, all is impossible.
1. A tax of 500 l. or 600. pound a week upon the Town, which was afterwards drawn down to a far less sum, we know not upon what consideration, since it is apparent the Town was able to bear a far heavier burden.
But he would bear no part of it himself. He doth not at all seem to deny it in that Letter, and this tax was laved and disburced by the Deputy-Lieutenants themselves, not a penny of it came to Col: Fiennes his hands, not of that of the twentieth part, he never received any within 20 miles, or within half a mile.
2. A tax upon Somerset and Glocestershires towards the fortifying of so much of Bristol as stood in these Counties, yet this Relator concealeth, and in his Letter the 17 of June, seems to deny that he had any special levy for his work, both from the Town and Country.
3. The weekly assessment, and the 20 parts within his verge of 20 miles, which though they were not duly rased, amounted to a considerable sum, if an accompt had been kept thereof.
4. The plundering of S. Thomas Bridges, S. Maurice Berckley, and many other men's estates in the Country, without any warrant from the Council of War, or the Deputy-Lieutenants, contrary to an express Order made by the said Council, all which were carried into the Castle without account;
A Lye.
A Lye.
5. The letting and setting, or the stocking with plundered Cattle, the said Delinquents and other men's estates, and sequestering their Rents with account, and without the concurrence or privity of the Deputy-Lieutenants.
6. The consiscated estates of the Conspirators in Bristol, and the secret compositions made with many of them, are thought to be very considerable, a the rather, because when it was move d, that all compositions might be made openly at a full Council, and entered into the Council book, it would not be hearkened unto:
a A Lye. All these shall be proved to be Lyes at a Council of War.
Yet Colonel Fiennes in his Letter to his Father, dated June 17. 1643. (see Relation, pag. 25.) saith, he shall never make 3000. l. of the Conspirators estates: It may be he meant upon compositions besides their plunder, which he could set no probable value upon.
7. Divers loanes upon the public faith to a great value, estimated b at 7000. l.
b A Lye by 6500.
8. Divers supplies from Parliament, which were always c concealed from the Committee;
c What had the Committee of Sōmersetshiere to do with it.
he had received 4000. l. before the 12. of May, 1643. by his own confession, (Relation p. 23.) and we hear he hath received at the least 3000. l. or 4000. l. since, quaere whether he hath received any money from Sir Gilbert Gerrard?
9. Licences to trade with the Enemy ( d even contrary to his Excellencies Ordinances of War) not granted for nothing.
d A base Lye.
10. e Custom money 1700. l.
e Another Lye. Col: Fiennes hath received together with the 1700. l. of custom money, in all 6688, and shall give a very good account of that, and all other receipts that this Pāphletter or any other can charge him withal.
11. If we may believe common fame, many Tradesmen (with whom we formerly told you the Castle was cumbered) f were drawn to give 10. l. a man, to have themselves and their goods secured there,
f Another Lye.
g The 9th Article of the agreement was framed purposely for it.
to restore the said goods to them again, many of them not being to be found, and the poor men are put to compound with the enemy for getting them out, as formerly they did with their friends to get them in; Besides, whereas his horse were to have 2. s. 6. d. a day pay, Colonel Fiennes gave them free quarter in the Country, and but 1. s. the day pay; g quaere what became of the rest.
g It was discounted to the State, as may appear by the Captains accoūts given in before this Pamphlet came forth.
This we set down to show how good an Oecononist our Governor was, and how able to raise money, having so rich a shop as the Town of Bristol to work in; h certainly, it was very possible f • r such a thriving Governor to maintain the Garrison out of so rich a Town, without the assistance of the adjacent Counties, (contrary to his tenet, page 4.)
h How doth this agree with what was said before of the many and unheard of devices to get money? How many pounds or pence did his Governor Col: Essex to whom he was assistant raise out of that rich City.
If Co. Fiennes had been a Comm ander of the Kings Forces, or that the Parliament world let their officers do what they do, he could have raised as much money as they, and yet sure this demonstrator is mistaken in the hypothesis of his demonstration
Let Soldiers judge of their number that saw them.
* A base supposition, as if he that would have be trayed the Town, would first have killed so many of their men and officers of quality, in testimony of his correspondency with them. All these particulars shall be fully cleared at a Council of War.
i For the business of Welles Langrish was not only cleared at a Council of War, but also commended. At Muncton Forly he was not present, being sent to Bristol by S. W. Waller, and in the other a places he rā away no otherwise then Sir W. Waller, and all the rest did.
A Lye. Co. Stephē • and L. Col. Cliston gave no such advice.
k A base & groūdlesse slander.
l But nameless.
m A Lye
n How doth this agree with the former clause that the enemy should fall on with so few men in the main place intended for the assault.
o A Lye.
p A Lye as shall be made to appear at a Council of War.
q A Lye Lieuten. Col: Davison gave no such advise to the Governeur, was not called off his guard till the enemy was possessed of all those places, was not out in the sally, as almost all the rest of the held Officers were.
r Whence should the Governor have had the soldiers to have sallied out with, if he had not called thē off the line, out of the supplies those Gentlemen should have sent him that went about by the lands end
s He deserved to be hanged if he had not come off as at a Council of War shall be made to appear.
After the sally unseasonably made, and beaten back again, spoken of, ( pag. 8.) the assailants possessed the Suburbs as far as Froome gate, t yet was there no danger of the enemies wading over at the Key, the depth of the mud and disadvantageous landing places, would have made them liable to great execution, even by stones and clubs, wherein the Townsmen would not have been backwards.
t How did our own soldiers run over without sticking in the mud.
The Defendants both Townsmen and Soldiers were disheartened and displeased at their retreat from the Line, into the Town, and to add more discouragement to thom, the Governor instead of making his last retreat into the Castle, according to his first resolution, neglected to make so much as a show of further defense, but presently resolved upon a Treaty with the enemy; whether he called his own creatures, his officers to join with him in this resolution, is uncertain; But the Committee and Gentlemen of the Country (who had most to lose there) viz. u Sir John Horner, Master Stephens, his son the Colonel, and divers other Officers do deny he ever put the question to them, whether they would treat or no?
u A gross Lye, most, if not all the Gentlemen were there, the question was put to them, and no man dissented.
x Another gross Lye, of 1200, 12. foot could not he get to their colors, before any Treaty was thought on or spoken off.
Is that to set a good face upon the matter, to run and hide his head in a Castle whilst hundreds of his Soldiers and friends were butchering in the Town.
A Lye. All those particulars shall be answered at a Council of War, how all this may be reconciled.
At what Council of War? Who gave out those orders?
A lie, He gave a Warrant to Captain Birck and others, to rid the Castle of all such. How to save himself by keeping at the Line, and most usually in the places of greatest danger, and going to the Koy and marsh to appoint the guards, when the enemy played thick upon him from the College-tower and the houses open S. Austin's back, having a good mark to know him by, by the horse that usually accompanied him, sure he might have been safer in the Castle.
but we are sorry to hear this Relator (page 9.) make it so clear a point that if the place had been Tenable, he could not have hoped for any relief in 6 or 8 weeks: what a discouragement will this be to that stout and faithful Commander Col: Massy, and other Governors of Towns, who have not such a powerful solicitor with the Parliament as Col: Fiennes Father. We have seen 3 of the Governors reasons why he could not keep the Castle.
The first was, he had too many men to keep the Castle, though too few to make good the Town.
The second was, a doubt least the City should fall upon him in his retreat thither.
Third was, the weakness of the Castle not fully fortified: And now newly discovered by the enemies manner of storming, and the execution his pieces of battery had lately done upon our Parapetts of earth; Together with the provision he had made of close decked boates, and galleries; which provision is gainsaid by all men:
If it was not before, sure now it is a very clear point, Col: Fiennes was not much out in judging he could not have succor in less then six weeks, and it was beyond expectation that Gloucester had it so soene.
A lie. by half the barrels, and well near hal • e the weeks.
Sure neither was Captain Birck such a fool, nor the Master gunner such a liar.
A brave Sould • er to maintain a Castle against a Royal Army, with Match that was to be made every day in the Castle.
As you have above lied.
Sir you were not the first inventour of that expedient for the Horse, and if you could have faggotted all the foot one upon another in the Castle, what should have become of your friends in the Town between whom and you there was a joint protestation and oath of mutual defense.
A false lie. Col: Fiennes both by his commands, & by all ways and means endeavored to keep the Soldiers to their colors and Guards,
All these particulars shall be cleared at a Council of War, and for the point of powder, mentioned in the precedent page, that had not Col: Fiennes got some from beyond-seas, and otherwise by his endeavors, the West had been lost long since, and the 10 barrels he helped Gloucester with saved it.
2 Grosse lies. Those that advised this, thought neither Town or Castle very safe and tenable.
A base & groūdlesse slander upon a Nobleman. He remembers no such answer, but conceives it a justifiable answer if he had said it.
A malicious lie. He knows that Col: Fiennes did what he could to suppress such disorders which were occasioned by the connivāce of other Commanders.
For the Prisoners, Col: Fiennes wished Captain Birck, to see if there could be means found to send them away by sea, but he could not, and he desired also Sir Arthur Hazelrigg to take some of them with him, but he would have none of them.
If liars and slanderers be not punished and Pillored, no men of honor will be able to live and do service, as Col: Fiennes doth not doubt to make it appear at a Council of War, that he made as good a defense of that place, as any hath been made of any place since this war, though not so long nor so successful, through other men's faults and the weak condition of the place.
THere hath lately come to my view a Letter written by Col: Nath: Fiennes to my L. General, with no date to it, wherein (among … other matters already confuted in the answer to his relation) he te … you he armed 3000 foot, and 300 horse, and paid constantly 2000 foot and a Regiment of horse for 4 of 5 months together; This we deny, Col. Pophams Regiment of foot being armed and paid by the Country, and where he will find 2000 foot, those excepted, we know not, unless they lay hid in Prince Ruperts imaginary close decked boates: he further saith, he was always ready to furnish Sir William Waller with arms, money, &c. It is denied for both, especially for money, the money Sir Wi lliam Waller had from Bristol being taken up upon the private security of divers Genelemen, Deputy-Lieutenants, and Committees of Parliament and others, Col: Fiennes always repining thereat, and complaining they would draw dry the spring and starve the Garrison in the Town by those courses; this letter seems to be attested under the hands of divers men, some whereof deny they ever subscribed it.
Sure they will not deny their hands when they see them, and Col. Fiennes will bring better proof of all that you deny, even of that which he said concerning close decked boates, then you can prove Major Langrishes cowardice at Munctō Forly when he was 10 miles off.
The true Copies of a Certificate under Col. Fiennes own hand, dated July 17▪ 1643. As also of an Order of a Counsel of War held in Bristol the same day, expressing the true causes why Sir W. Waller left the City of Bristol.
THE CERTIFICATE.
I do conceive that Sir W. Waller having only horse, they would be of little us • unto us for the defense of this City, and may be rather a burden unto us in the consumption of our provisions, and therefore I do approve of Sir Williams resolution to march out of the Town with them, and to dispose of them as he shall think most advantageous to the Cause.
Bristol, July 17, 1643.
Nath: Fiennes.
THE ORDER.
It was Ordered at a Council of War held in Bristol, July 17, 1643.
That (according to the importunity of the Governor and his Officers) Sir Will: Wallers departure from Bristol, will be of far greater consequence for the advancing of this present service, then his remaining there. And after debate, it was concluded most convenient, That Sir Will: Waller speedily march towards His Excellencie the Earl of Essex, or to London.
- Edward Hungersord.
- Alexander Popham.
- James Keir.
- Francis Dowet.
- Arthur Haselrig.
- William Carr.
- Edward Cook.
- Jonas Van-drusch.
I know not what he means by printing that certificate, and that Order of S Will: Wallers Council. of War (whereof I deny the parenthesis to be true to my best remembrance) and for the Certificate, I am still of the same judgment under the favor of this great Soldier, especially if Sir Will: Wallers words were true concerning his horse, that they were such rascalls as he could never rule them.